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On today’s episode of the Occult Symbolism and Pop Culture with Isaac Weishaupt podcast we are talking about me! You’ve listened to me for years and now’s it’s about time time to put me in the hot seat. I’m doing this so you know who I am and how I view the world. I need you to understand who you get your information from so you know my biases and leanings. If we don’t agree on everything (as we probably don’t) we can at least respectfully disagree and remain in each other’s spheres. Divisiveness tears people apart and stovepipes people into being manipulated so it’s healthy to have dissenting and differing opinions. To help foster this understanding, we’ll go through my upbringing and experiences in life before walking through my opinions in controversial topics from politics to religion, guns & drugs, sex & porn, environment, equality and more!

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Isaac Weishaupt has been researching occult belief systems since 2011 and revealing symbolism used in the entertainment industry. Using examples of pop culture to discuss occult perspectives; Isaac has been an independent one-man army with no ZERO HANDLERS to answer to. He’s written nine books and produced hundreds of hours of podcasts since 2014 with over 15 million downloads. Isaac’s contribution to the truther world is one that comes from an honest, unique perspective that seeks to understand the big agenda while helping others along the way to go towards the light instead of dark divisiveness.

Isaac hosts the Occult Symbolism and Pop Culture podcast (supported by the supporter feeds like Patreon) and “Breaking Social Norms” podcast. He has been a featured guest on Coast to Coast AM, Tin Foil Hat podcast (honorary member of Mount Crushmore), Eddie Bravo’s “Look Into It,” Ground Zero with Clyde Lewis, Chris Jericho’s “Talk is Jericho,” Richard Syrett’s “Strange Planet,” House Inhabit’s Substack, “Those Conspiracy Guys,” Dave Navarro’s “Dark Matter Radio,” Richard C. Hoagland’s “Other Side of Midnight”, SIRIUS/XM’s The All Out Show, The HigherSide Chats, VICE, COMPLEX magazine, Esquire, Newsweek, The Atlantic and many more radio shows and podcasts. His fresh perspective and openly admitted imperfections promotes the rational approach to exploring these taboo subjects and theories.

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Isaac Weishaupt 0:04
Today is all about me. That’s right, Isaac weishauptop, who is Isaac Weishaupt, today, I’m gonna tell you about it. And it’s not because I want to gush about who I am doing this, because I get misunderstood a lot, and today because I mean who I am on paper and who I am in real life are kind of hard to reconcile, and we’ll walk through this. But today we’re gonna go through my life’s journey. My goal for you, my dear listener, my friend, is I need you to understand more about why I think the way that I do. We’re gonna cover my upbringing, pop culture, interest, family, friends, religion, high school, politics, work experience, military service, college and we’re gonna go through all my opinions on sex, entertainment, religion, politics, porn, society, environment, equality, guns, drugs, everything, right? I’m the alkaline OG granola wokester. And you’re gonna hear why, okay? And by the time we wrap up, you’re gonna have a better understanding of who I am and why I think the way I do, and why I say the things I say, all right, and this will either be the most or least downloaded episode that I do of all time, and it’s up to you. I recommend, I highly recommend, you listen. And it’s going to be long winded, because this is oops, all soapbox. Okay, it’s gonna be long winded because, but it’s important, because you need to know who you’re consuming your information from. You need to know my biases, all right? Because I got them. I’ve got blinders onto things, but that’s because that’s the worldview I programmed into my my brain, right? Your brain is just a computer, and you, you, you soak up all the programming from your family and your religion and your politics and your beliefs, and sometimes it’s really hard to to shape those things. It’s it is malleable, but it’s a little more difficult than you would think. And here’s the thing, if you don’t agree with me with the things I’m going to say today, because some of them are very controversial, I didn’t know that until I decided to put my opinion out into the world, but some of the things I’m going to tell you are very controversial, and you’re going to get offended. I assure you that’s going to happen. If you don’t agree, that’s fine, all right. In fact, I respect there’s nothing more than I don’t respect, anything more than when someone who doesn’t agree with me, listens, continues to listen, and sticks around. That’s a strong person. Okay? I’ve been in many positions of leadership. I know what real I say, Man, I’m a man, right? Like, I know what real men look like, and that kind of women too, right? Same, same argument. I know what a real leader looks like there. Let’s say that. Okay, I know what a real leader looks like. I’ve been in many positions. I’ve been a leader in many times, and I know what it looks like, and it’s someone who can handle dealing with things they don’t want to hear and that’s what this country is based upon. Freedom of speech, you have to listen to the uncomfortable things sometimes, all right? And I respect because I get lots of comments from people who are like, Dude, I don’t agree with this, but whatever, right? And that’s fine. We can respectfully. And that’s my that’s my catch. That’s my job. Here is I, even if we don’t agree, I will try my best to be respectful. Sometimes I get triggered. I’m just a human being with emotions, and that’s why I try to present the information that I present you guys in an unbiased manner. I try my best to not call people names and things like that. Okay? And weak people, they don’t they don’t hang around weak people can’t handle it. They hear an opinion they don’t like. They feel the need to light me up. They’ll light me up in the reviews or the comments. Drop a nasty comment, then they’re out, and they go to their own little bubble sphere where they can be manipulated. Because that’s what happens when you don’t consume information that agrees with your bias or disagree disagrees with your bias. Excuse me, that’s why, if you look at my bookmarks on my computer. I’ve got news bookmarks, and guess what’s on the news bookmarks? I’ve got CNN on there. Guess what else I got on there? Fox News is on there. Guess what else is on there? Alex Jones’s Infowars. I check these websites regularly, okay? Because not one is entirely accurate, right? All the time, but we’ll get into that. We’ll talk about it the point, the point of this show, and this isn’t going to be a show where I’m trying to convince you why I’m right and you’re wrong. It’s not that at all. The point of the show is to build a rapport with you. Okay, I need you to understand who I am on a certain level. I can’t let you all the way in like I’m not gonna name name. Of you know specific people and family and friends. I’m not doing that. All right. My hope is there you can find the common ground with me, so that you look at me as a friend that, at worst, just has different opinions in you, and that’s okay, all right. So, oh, and let’s start this off, right? Okay, the question, the question I get the most, am I related to Adam Weishaupt? And the answer, of course, is, no, you already know this. But if you’re a brand new listener, and I’ve referred you to listen to this episode, because I’m gonna link this episode for new people, right? If, if you, if you’re like, Dude, your last name is wise hop. You’re related to the guy who found in the Bavarian Illuminati. You’re a disinformation agent. I get that a lot, right? If you’ve heard this before, my apologies, but we got to start here. It’s a pseudonym, okay, when I start, and we’ll talk about my journey. But when I started my blog Illuminati, watch it out. Illuminatiwatcher.com within a year or so, a radio show out of Oklahoma reached out to me, said, Hey, we like you talking about your conspiracy stuff. Do you want to come to the radio show? And I was like, Okay, sounds good to me. I had no experience with it, but I was like, sounds good. And then I What’s your name? And I was like, Oh man, I’m just the Illuminati watcher. But then I thought, I gotta have a real name. And I don’t remember if it was that or if it was my first book that I wrote that I didn’t needed a name. It gets confusing, right? We’re going back 14 years now, but I decided to make a play a pseudonym to protect my anonymity in my personal life, and I chose Isaac Weishaupt for the letters, IW, right, Illuminati watcher. IW, so because I would, I make notes on things, because I got to keep track of things, and I would just write IW on all my personal notes. So I, I chose Isaac Weishaupt because wiseob, of course, is relevant, because it’s the founder of the Illuminati. In hindsight, terrible idea. Now nobody trusts you. They think I’m in the Illuminati. And I assure you, I’m not related, as far as I know, to Adam Weishaupt, although I am very German, so it’s possible. Um, why did I chose Isaac? Because it was just a name that began with an eye. I mean, there’s a biblical reference there, right? I don’t know any Isaacs that I admire or look up to nothing to do with that. And as you’ll hear, this whole project was never intended to be anything. I know that sounds backwards today, but you got to go back to 2011 when I started this. That’s not how life was back then. Nowadays, people do this stuff, and they get big budget production companies and videographers and studios, and they’re like, I’m gonna get big on YouTube and to be a famous podcaster. And like, that’s not what it was back then. Back then it was just something funny, just blog, I just, you know, spout off my little interest in my little opinion, or whatever. And I didn’t know that it would sort of become this. So in hindsight, would I have chosen it? No, hell no, but it’s way too late now. All right, so I am Isaac Weishaupt now, as usual, I won’t be swearing, okay? I established that early in my podcasting career. I swear a lot in my personal life. If you listen to my very opinion degenerate ish show Breaking social norms I do in my life, you’ll know it’s very not safe for work. It’s very explicit, because I swear a lot. Okay, I don’t swear on the podcast because I’m not trying to again, like I want to find common ground. And I know there’s Christian warriors out there who dislike swearing, and while I disagree with that entirely, that’s fine, I respect that it’s, it’s, it’s, and I learned this going into to work in an office okay, I’ve been a blue collar mechanic my whole life, and then when I graduated from college in like, 2009 I went to an office environment, and I had to quickly learn to stop talking like a sailor, you know what I mean? So anyway, but yeah, I won’t be swearing in here. Yeah, okay, but I have a very dark humor, as you probably already know, and it takes an awful lot to offend or repulse me, but yet, at the same time, I’m sensitive, right? I’m sensitive to attacks that hit a little too close to home sometimes, so and it’s completely unpredictable. But anyway, when I call you guys free feed losers, obviously I’m joking. Okay, a lot of people don’t get that joke, but since some of you don’t get the joke. I have to do this show.

And in hindsight, with all of that, I think it’s funny, right? I think it’s funny to put people down in a loving joking manner. It’s the intention, right? I don’t think it’s, I don’t think it’s, it’s cool to be mean by any by any. Means, well, it’s not cool to be mean to people, but like when you’re joking and then you know you’re busting each other’s balls, like, that’s what you do. I don’t know, but that’s my background. So let’s get into it. All right, let’s ease into this. We got a long way to go, folks, let’s start with and I’ve got some of this scripted out more heavily than other parts, because I like specifically in the politics section, because I don’t want it to turn into this diatribe of me, Brandon, Raven and all this stuff. So some of it’s more scripted than others, because I want to carefully get my message across without making it too long, right? You guys got things to do, all right? Let’s start off with my adolescence. This one’s less scripted, so bear with me. It started out. I was a young man born in 1979 in Allentown, PA All right, a real blue collar coal cracking community over there in Allentown, right? Those are my people, genuine people, right? Hard working, Jack and Diane stories, Billy Joel, talk of trash. We we get mad at Billy Joel for making that song. Allentown, to this day, I will change Billy Joel, if he’s on the radio, I will change it. Why? Because Allentown, those are my people. Okay? Started. Out there, and I don’t want to make this chronological, but I grew up in the 80s, okay? I grew up in the 80s and the 90s. Obviously. I was born in 79 and all the things from the 80s were baked into my personal and pop culture interest, all right. I remember being a small child, and at some point, I think when I was about five or six, we moved to Lancaster PA, all right, and it’s a small town in Lancaster called Ephrata, where I lived, and little did I know. I only found this out in the last, you know, five to 10 years effort. It turns out to be a major hub of the occult activity that happened in America. If you read Mitch Horowitz’s, he’s got a book about the occult in America. I don’t remember the title, but it’s like, right off the beginning. He talks about how Ephrata was this, this hotbed of Rosicrucian occultism, and has like, what? Because it’s just a small town. And I thought, well, that’s pretty crazy. But anyway, maybe that’s part of maybe that was in the sphere of influence, I don’t know. Anyhow, the and to be clear, like I live in Utah now, we’ll go through my journey. But you know, I love PA. I love the food there, obviously my family and friends from there, it’s home to me. Do I want to move there? No, the weather sucks. All right, most of the time. The weather sucks. It’s just too humid. The summers get brutal, the winters get brutal. The area is cool, though, like the people are cool, the food’s good, you know, it’s way anyway, see what I’m saying. I can meander around the final stick to the script. So pop culture interest. It’s, you know, in the 80s I was I remember watching MTV. I remember watching my earliest memories were watching TV, okay, I was obsessed with the incredible Hawk Lou Ferrigno on TV. I remember vividly watching rock, the Casbah music video, watching Tom Petty. There’s a music video where he is out in the desert, like flying around on hovercrafts or something. Those are my earliest memories and and again, I’m gonna leave my personal, like family out of this stuff. I have a very small family, and I have one sister. Okay, there you go. That’s just, I’m not gonna, I can’t let you guys all the way in, okay? But, of course, I’ve got family memories and stuff, but I’m talking about pop culture wise. And I remember my first ish music I consumed. I liked the Fat Boys and Weird Al Yankovic. I was heavy on Weird Al and the Fat Boys back then, and the Fresh Prince. You know, I had all those cassette tapes on the rapper, he’s the DJ Dazz effects, a lot of stuff before I started, like, growing up and and getting interested in some more kind of hardcore stuff. So I had a, I enjoyed the comedy of Weird Al, you know. And as far as films and TV, you know, it was a different, different generation. We I watched whatever my father watched. It was a very patriarchal home. Whatever dad was watching is what we watched. So lots of horror movies. We watched lots of football and lots of horror. Movies, all right? And so for me, my interest in horror movies is a bit of nostalgia of my childhood. It’s, you know, remembrance of my father who passed away 12 years ago. We’ll cover that, I’m sure. But yeah, and I was always into that and sports, if you can believe that, I was obsessed with sports ball. I know, I know a lot of you guys are probably confused by that, but I was absolutely obsessed. I didn’t miss I watched Sports Center multiple times a day in the summer. You know, I wanted to be good at sports, but I didn’t have the confidence when I was a child, the self esteem to do well, you know, I was always scared. I was scared of everything. I had a lot of anxiety as a kid and but, yeah, as far as pop culture goes, I was super into horror movies and I was super into sports. But what had my heart was WWF and W NWA and WCW, wrestling, professional wrestling. I was obsessed. Okay? I was super into that. Hence why I call you guys free feed losers. Because, like, I love the heels in wrestling, the bad guys. You know, Hulk Hogan has a special place in my heart, but like, he wasn’t my favorite wrestler. I liked Ric Flair, you know, I like the bad guys. I like the bad boys. They were, they’re always more entertaining me, like Million Dollar Man 10 Dibiase coming out of stuff, dollar bills in people’s mouths. I mean, I don’t know, I was obsessed with wrestling in the mid to late 80s, early 90s, but I’ve always, I’ve always loved entertainment in all its forms, music and film and TV, and that includes sports and wrestling. But I’ve always been but I I started getting drawn into stuff that was outside of the norm, like we never watched, not never, but we rarely watched anything that was sort of the mainstream stuff. I don’t know how to explain that, right. Like, for instance, I never watched I didn’t see Indiana Jones movies growing up again, because it’s like, if my dad didn’t watch it, we didn’t watch it. My dad was not a normal kind of dude, so I never watched et I never watched Indiana Jones. I mean, major 80s movies. We just didn’t watch them. Now Friday the 13th Nightmare on Elm Street. Yeah, we watched them, right? We watched all that stuff and that, and that influenced my lack of enjoyment for sitcoms. Okay? I remember watching cheers as a young kid. I know my parents watched that. That’s about all. I remember. They watched Seinfeld, but I at that point, I was old enough that I was out on my own. But as far as influences go, you know, as far as my family goes, it wasn’t anything out of the ordinary for the 80s and 90s, because back then, it was a different world. You know, we didn’t have any money, really. You know, my dad was in law enforcement, and my mom was a like, you got, like an LPN, like a nurse. Wasn’t anything lavish, you know. And like we’d always have just cheap used cars. Vacation meant driving to Jersey to see my dad’s family. We’d go to the boardwalk and Wildwood. Some of my fondest memories were there. Like I remember we used to go to Dracula’s castle, and when I was real young, I got terrified. There was a there was a room that was a strobe light with black and white checkered floors. I feel like, I don’t know if that’s true. That’s what I remember. And it was the last room to get out, and you couldn’t see it, but there’s a Dracula in there, in the final room, and he, like, said, I’m gonna get your mommy to me, and it scarred me. It traumatized me and, and, but, you know, looking back on it, like those are all very fun, like that whole esthetics of Dracula’s castle the boardwalk. I mean, that I don’t know, you know, there’s a nostalgia that happens when you’re young, and there’s really hard to explain why. But, yeah, I mean, we would go to Wildwood, New Jersey, or Maryland, maybe Chesapeake Bay, Assateague Island, which is where I had my first beer with my dad. I don’t know how old I was, I don’t want to incriminate the guy, but young, I had Moosehead beer. I remember taking a sip, and I was like, Oh, my God. Why would you drink this? I didn’t get it.

You know what? That was cool. Like he was it was socially very cool, because he was, like, try to make me responsible yet social, like he wasn’t like, a degenerate, like, Oh yeah, you should go drink it with your friends. Like, I hung out with people. I hung out with people when I was a teen that their parents let us smoke and. And drink and do things I don’t want to self incriminate either on the show, they let us do things. And I look back and I think that was insane. Why would they allow that to happen? We were like, 1514, doing illegal things. Why would these parents let that happen? And maybe it’s just a different culture, different environment. But anyways, my point is, is that my dad wasn’t like, I wasn’t allowed to do that, and he was just like, look, this is in context. If you’re at home and you’re you’re not irresponsible with it, like you can ask and like, I can give you, like, some wine with dinner, that kind of thing. That’s the kind of vibe. I don’t know how to explain that properly, but he was, he was, I feel like he was trying to prepare me for the real world, right? And then you had my mother, who, she didn’t have a ton of pop culture or entertainment interest, particularly, I think she just kind of went along with the ride of with my father. Was kind of, we all followed suit. She was very religious. She took us to church. It was a Church of the Nazarene and my my father never went. I never seen them go to church. He didn’t like it. Why? I don’t know. I visit the conversations I wish I could have with him, but he did read his Bible often. I saw him reading his Bible many times, and it was interesting, because I did not like going to church either. It was very overbearing, because you would go Sunday morning, then you would go Sunday evening, and then you would go Wednesday evening, and it was just way too much. And I hated it because I just wanted to, like, play with my action figures and stay home and play Nintendo and, you know, watch football and, like, I want to do all those things. And it was just like my whole life was consumed with this. It felt like, and, you know, my dad didn’t like it there, and I didn’t like it either. So I don’t know if he influenced me to not like it. He never said that. He never was like. He never teed off on it. And made me think, oh, yeah, you’re right. I hate this place. It wasn’t like that at all. It was more. I didn’t get along with anyone. They felt very judgmental, and it just felt like they were we didn’t vibe, you know, me and the other guys I would go to church with. You know guys my age, right? Is what I’m saying, No particularly bad experiences or nothing. I just, it just felt like I was so forced to go so often. And it’s really, it’s really painted my perception to this day, because as you, as we talk about religion, you hear about my journey into orthodoxy, and I haven’t gone in years now. And it’s funny, because in like, four or five years, like, what’s, the pandemic hit like that, for whatever reason, turned into the thing that we just kind of stopped going on Sundays. And it’s, it does a weird thing for me to at the beginning where we committed, or we’d be like, Hey, do you want to go? Like, now you’re not gonna go. We’re gonna sleep in. And it felt really like a guilty pleasure. Like, yeah, because it reminded me, when I was a kid, the rare moments that I wouldn’t have to go to church, it was like, this huge reward. I was like, oh my god yes, because it rarely happened. I mean, I’ll bet. And this is through the filter of me trying to go back, you know, 3040, years. I want to say we only. And like I said, Sunday morning, Sunday evening, Wednesday evening, I feel like we per year. I probably skipped maybe three services. Ish, give or take, it’s got to be less than 10. So, I mean, that’s a lot of church. It’s a lot of church. But yeah, so like at home, my personal my home life, the my father was kind of more of an authoritarian figure, I guess you would say, doesn’t sound good. He wasn’t taking no shorts, no losses. I was grounded all the time. And I mean when I say all the time, I mean all the time we and he and and to his defense, I don’t know that I would be the man that I am today without that kind of tyranny running my life because I liked, like, I like the bad boys. I hung out with the bad boys, and they did all kinds of bad things, and I was right there with them. But if I didn’t have some kind of check on that, you know, things could have turned out differently for me, right? For example, I here’s one example that seemed kind of extreme in hindsight. Now that I am older, I was allowed to get 2c on a report card. That was the worst I could get. If I got 1d if I got 3c grounded, and it’s grounded until I got the next report card, till I got the grades up. Okay, so. So if you recall, at least in my schools, you got a report card every quarter, so you’d have to, or it’s every couple months. I don’t know. I’m trying to do the math here. So basically, if I brought the report card home and it had two, three, C’s, okay, you’re grounded till the next one. And that would wait after wait two months, or whatever it was three months, give the next report card, and if, if I got it up to two C’s, and he was like, Okay, you’re, you’re ungrounded, okay, but a couple months as a kid is forever. I mean, you’re, I mean, when I say grounded, I mean, I couldn’t leave the house, like I wasn’t allowed to do anything, no friends, no nothing, zero, like there was zero exceptions. I When I look around at the world today, I think like people don’t know, you know, they’re like, You’re grounded from your phone for a day. That isn’t a punishment. What are you talking about? Like, you know what I mean. And the the the craziest was, if my last report card of the school year had three C’s, for example, or a D on it, I would be grounded all summer and the first couple months until I got that first report card of the next school year. So I mean, we’re talking like I don’t even know what that is, five months, I’d be grounded, without exception, that entire time, and I’m not, and people today are very weak with their kids. I mean it literally nothing, no friends, no birthday parties, no one comes over, nothing, nothing. And that seems absurd to me now, as an adult, I think that’s too much. That’s way too much, and but it was, you know, he made rules and you followed the rules. And that was, that’s why I say he’s an authoritarian. He had a list of chores for me. They printed out and laminated on a on a card, an index card, and that was my if I didn’t do those, like, again, grounded, but I always, always did them. So, like, I don’t know how long that grounding was. Might have been a week, might have been a month, I don’t know. In fact, I got caught doing and again, I’m not gonna self incriminate, but I got me and my friends did some things, and we got caught. And actually, I only got grounded for a month for that one. I was like, oh, that’s nothing. You’d rather me do this illegal activity then get 3c that seems kind of unbalanced, but okay, it’s crazy, but yeah, and I always got grounded because he always thought I was being a smart ass to him, which maybe I was, I’m kind of a smart ass. Or he always thought I was giving him the eye like I like I’d be rolling my eyes at him, or something he would like the way I looked at him, if he liked the way I looked at him, grounded. Boom, grounded. So when I say I was grounded half of my adolescent life, like I’m not exaggerating. I was grounded all the time, which probably led to me being this sort of introverted, lone wolf kind of guy, which probably leads to me to doing all this research and presenting it to you, and, yeah, also another, another story, and then I’ll quit crying about my dad. I promise he always, he instilled a strong work ethic in me, okay, which probably is why I go as hard in the pain as I do with work, right? When I got my I obviously did chores around the house and stuff, but I got my first w2 paying job when I was 13 years old, and I worked. I’ve worked ever since then, okay, and I work at least 20 hours a week during the school year, from third from the age of 13, again, like, in hindsight, looking back as an adult on these things, I think this wasn’t a typical experience. You know? Yeah, I would work 20 hours a week and then, right? That’s just, well, maybe 16, right? Like, I would work eight hour shifts on Saturday and Sunday, for sure. But anyway, then in the summer, I would work full time. And the one summer when I was 17, I had a honda cr X, and it was like my dream car. It was like 2000 bucks, right? And it was an 87 so it was the first body style, which I didn’t like. I like the second body style, but I couldn’t afford those. And the has an interference engine, which I learned what that was the hard way, because I had it about a week and the inter the timing belt snapped, and it destroys the engine. And I needed to borrow $2,000 to get the engine rebuilt, which at the time was an astronomical amount of money. This was what, like 96 or something like that.

And for me to get 2000 bucks, I had to get a loan from through my father as a cosigner, and he made me pay him back with the quickness, right? We weren’t doing minimum payments on this thing. No, no, no. I had to get more jobs. So in the summer, when I was 17. 18. I worked a full time job as a janitor at a hospital. I worked a part time job at Kmart stock and shelves, and then I worked another part time job delivering pizzas for what turned out to be a drug dealer and that the FBI was surveilling the pizzeria. I didn’t know out of the time, long story, but we got to keep it moving. Now, I was working 70 to 80 hours a week, which is kind of insane. So like, my whole summer was ruined at peak, peak summer, at 17, I should have been out having a great time. I had no time. I just worked. But anyways, my point being is that, again, I don’t look at this and be like, poor me. I had this awful child. I look at it as like my dad raised me to be very strong and very self reliant and a hard work ethic, which benefited me a lot through my life. Okay. Oh, he also, there was a couple years where he had this really strict thing. I was only allowed to watch two hours of TV a week, which is terrible when you’re a teenager, you’re like, what? I had to pick the shows I wanted and submit them to him and be like, these are the shows I want to watch. And then, like, that was it. So I’d be real selective on what I watched. That included Nintendo too. We had eight bit Nintendo two hours. That was it. That’s all I had. He didn’t keep Thank goodness he didn’t keep that one going for too long. I want to say it was like a year or two. We had to do that. And I was like, This is crazy. But you know, you don’t say those things out loud, because you get grounded. My point being is like I was raised to be very tough, all right. And what sucked for that, for me, the unfortunate thing for me is that I’m actually a pretty sensitive guy, and then you got my mom, and she was super chill, very laid back. She, you know she was. She would take me and my sister out to the we’d go to the mall, go to the Berkshire mall in reading, you know, over by Taylor Swift, go to grandma’s house, whatever, right? But then there was, and this is, this is important again. I’m not gonna keep crying about my dad, but it’s it was very formative in who I am. I remember I graduated high school because this set up a sequence of events. That’s why I’m telling you this sob story. I graduated high school and and like I said, I’ve been working since I was 13. I paid for my own car, I paid for my own insurance, which, back in the 90s, I paid 150 bucks a month for my insurance, for liability, which was outrageous, but like, they didn’t, he wouldn’t even, like, they wouldn’t help me to have to be on their insurance plan, like parents put their kids on their insurance to save them money. Like that didn’t exist in my house. And I actually respect that. Like, I’m cool with that. This isn’t me crying about I think that’s you raise your kid to be self sufficient, responsible, and that’s just who you become, and that’s who I am. And so anyway, so we graduated high school, and everybody was going up to Dorney Park in Allentown, and I was so excited. I was like, Oh my I got to go to, we’re going to a amusement park. Like, that’s awesome, how fun. And I get home from graduation, well, I’m sorry, it was the last day of school. Okay, so it wasn’t the formal graduation ceremony, it was the last day of school, and, you know, they cut you out at, I don’t know, noon or whatever it was, and everyone’s like, we’re going to do any park. I go home and again, mind you, I’ve got my own money. I’ve got my own car. I got my own insurance. I’m a free bird. I’m 18, but I’m living at home still, and I go home and I’m like, hey, hey Dad, can I go to Dorney Park like it was our last day of school. And he got mad at me. I don’t even know why. Maybe he could. If I could ask him, I could find out, clarification, he got mad at me for either my tone or something. Who knows it was always something with me. And he said, No, you’re not going and then on top of that, you’re gonna spend the day picking bagworms off this tree. And now I was all day long outside, and look, you didn’t have air pods back then. You had a cassette Walkman, I gotta wear that. But I picked bagworms off a tree, a pine, this little pine tree, like all day. I was so pissed. I was so mad at him. And that set up the sequence of events, because then a week or two later, for some reason, I was going to go to ITT. It was a technical school. Wasn’t it’s not really college. I think they’re gone. I don’t know if they exist anymore, but I wanted to be like an electronics, you know, mechanic of some kind, because at this point, I was already a I was I worked for Honda, because my senior year, I went to vo tech in in Lancaster to become. A mechanic, and I became a mechanic at Honda before I graduated high school even. And I decided I wanted to go to IDT and, like, learn electronics and work on that. And I came home and I told my parents this. My dad got mad at me again, reasons I don’t know to this day, and he kicked me out of the house. I just graduated high school. It was, you know, I don’t know what we’re in June of 1998 or whatever, and he kicked me out. I was like, So there I was, graduated 18 homeless already. Boom, just like that. Now I say homeless. I wasn’t like, living in a tent at this point, but I had to get a place to live. So my mom helped me find this apartment. And, you know, I couldn’t afford much. I was making like, six bucks an hour as a mechanic, and, yeah, I found an apartment downtown. It was grimy as hell. It was so dirty you you went in there, and there was whoever was in there before me, smoked a lot, and if you took a wet sponge to wipe the walls down, it just just yellow nicotine dripping. It was disgusting. The carpet, it was disgusting. If you wore white socks, they were black, right? And their rent was 350 a month. It was a house that was split into like six rentals, because there was this area of town where that’s all there was. Was a bunch of those. And so I lived upstairs, and it was very filthy, but it was 350 a month. I could afford that, right? And so So and when you’re 18 and you have your own place, let me tell you something that’s a riot. That was a great time for me, a golden age for your boy to have your own place. Everyone wanted to hang out now you all of a sudden catapult to the coolest guy on Earth, right? Chicks want to hang out. Dudes are bringing over party favors. And things were chaotic for from from the time I moved out to the time I gave up and joined the military, it was a riot of all the finest things in life, because my mom, she feels bad for this. To this day, she feels bad that she let my dad kick me out. But like I said, my dad ruled the roost and and at the time, it was very tragic. But in hindsight, I’m like, that was, like, the greatest time of my life. Well, just about cool. It’s up there, right? Great. It was a great period. And man, I loved it so much. It was, it was quite the experience. But here’s the thing I and here’s what I want to get a point across here, I appreciate both parents and both parenting styles. If I didn’t have my dad being such an authoritarian with me, I am positive I would be in prison or dead if I didn’t have my mother, you know, I, I, if it wasn’t, they both brought some a balance to the table. Okay, we’ll just put it that way, all right, because I don’t want to keep talking about this for too long, and you know, with my friends, they were generally bad influences, most of them. And I’ll say that to disparage them, I mean it like I like to do bad stuff, and the friends I gravitated towards did bad things, and I liked that, and that was fun. And in hindsight, I’m glad I did it that way. I feel like there’s some advantage of getting a lot of that out of your system. You know, like to just be a good a good kid your whole life, and a good person. You probably wonder what it’s like, you know, but you know, because I didn’t identify with the good kids, I didn’t identify with the good school, I didn’t identify with the good kids at church, I didn’t, for whatever reason I don’t know. I couldn’t tell you my dad was a bad boy, too, though, you know, my dad had tattoos and was getting fights all the time, like my dad was a badass, you know, motorcycle, like he was an alpha, toxic male, and that, I don’t know what to tell you, I admire that on some level and try to be that and emulate that. On some level, I’m this weird mix of my two parents, right?

And several of my friends. To talk. Let’s talk about my friends, several of my friends, or the, at the minimum, people I was friendly with growing up did, in fact, end up on drugs or in prison. I know many people that did, and when what happened was why I joined the military was so my dad wanted me to join the military the whole time because he was in the Navy, and he insisted I do it. And of course, I was being. Very rebellious towards the end, before he kicked me out. Because I was like, bro, I’ve had it with your stuff, you know. And I was like, I’m not joining the military. I’m not doing that. And he kicks me out. I get my own place. And things were fine, until I so that same Honda, CR, x, right? I had gotten into some trouble, and someone slashed my tires, and I replaced them on one side, on the driver’s side, they slashed my tires, so I replaced them with, like, Mickey Mouse tires, because it’s all I had, like, two spares and I was going to get the tires fixed, right? And I remember me and my my one friend were driving around. We shouldn’t have been driving, but we were driving around, and I took a corner too fast, and this is where, God, you know, this is my Donald Trump ear shot moment, except this really happened. No, just kidding. We I took a turn too fat. We had no seat belts on. It was the middle of summer, windows all the way down in the CR X. I took a turn too fast and lost control. The vehicle went off the side of the road and plowed through a cornfield and totaled my car. Now me and my buddy did not have seat belts on, and we missed. We were probably doing I don’t even know how fast we were going, 40 or 50, fast enough that I was taking a turn that wasn’t that sharp, and lost control the vehicle, and we dodged a telephone pole by inches. And I have the photo if I if I think of it, I’ll let me put a thing on my notes here, if I think of it, I’ll post it on my instagram at Isaac Weishaupt, like and subscribe. I’m gonna put a note here cornfield CRX, because we dodged this telephone pole by inches, and I suggest that it would have killed both of us, all right, surely my friend, because he was on this is the passenger side that was closest to that telephone pole. And yeah, so I launched this thing into a cornfield, and I took a photo of and you can see I cleared this path right next to the telephone pole. And that was a formative moment for me. It was very terrifying. And I, I think it would have killed us, right? And anyway, so, okay, so that set up the thing, right? I I did someone dirty or something. They sliced my tires. I totaled my car. Almost killed me and my buddy and I had to buy another car, and I was a Honda mechanic, I’m getting honda cr x. So I get this honda cr x, this 91 and I get a Japanese motor swap because I was friends with, like, the ACE mechanic at my shop, and he helped me replace this motor. So we swap out the motor. So I got this badass 91 CRX. It was red with Chrome Tristar wheels and a stereo. Oh, my God, it’s the best. But the car payment for the loan was 70 bucks a month, which at the time I couldn’t afford. Again, I’m making six something an hour on my own. Living on my own, I would eat peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, tater tots. I mean, I ate like a raccoon the whole time my friends would come over, I had a couple good friends shout outs of, like, my bestie growing up, man, he would share his fast food with me, or pizza or whatever. They would bring over. Everyone else would just, like, bring their own food. And I would just sit there and, like, starve, you know. And so I can’t make these payments, and I’m like, crap, I got to get a second job. So I contact the place that where I was going to be a janitor. So I was going to be a janitor a second time again as a part time job, and I was supposed to go in to do the drug test. Had concerns about that, and I just decided I don’t want to do this anymore, because I had already worked, like, the multiple jobs, I just sucked. And that’s when I was like, I’m gonna join the military. I’m doing it. So me, my bestie, and my other bestie, we go down to sign up to talk to the recruiter, and my one friend had a couple reckless drivings on his record, and they wouldn’t let him sign up. So me and my bestie sign up. My other bestie, he is told to go sign up at the army. And he was like, All right, I guess I’ll do that. And he ends up not doing it. Sadly, me and my bestie leave town and go to boot camp, leaving the one guy behind. Well, you know, I stay in touch with him over the years, and I’d see him when I’d go home on leave, and he died a few years ago, presumably from drugs. He had drug issues. Suffered with his. I knew him. You know, in high school, you just think you’re partying and having fun. I think he had some real issues he was trying to cope with. I don’t know what they were, and that that crushed me to see him pass away few, several years ago now. And you know, anyway, so like these things like, start building up scar tissue with you, right? And you get sympathies for people that are dealing with stuff, right? People that are addicted to drugs, people that are homeless, like that could be me, right? That could have been me. That’s my friends, that’s the people I love, that’s family. I got family members that are in these boats, so I’m not one of these guys who’s just like, Oh, screw these people. They deserve it. No, I don’t subscribe to that at all. I think these are very real issues that people are trying to deal with and have a lot of sympathy for it. Okay, how do you deal with that? I don’t know the answer to that, right? I don’t know the answer to that, so, yeah, let’s see here. Cars, you know, yeah, growing up like that’s kind of my experience growing up. Let me kind of delve deeper into growing up, growing up in pa lang, in Lancaster, Pa there’s a lot of anti social type behaviors. There’s a lot of like, the Amish is there, right? The PA Dutch and the German. It’s a heavy German background there. Everyone’s German. So Volkswagen’s a way of life. You know? I used to go to Volkswagen shows. I had a rabbit GTI, you know, whatever. But it’s kind of an anti social background that people don’t they’re not very friendly, okay? And it’s not a dig, it’s just the way people are. They don’t trust anybody, you know, no one. You don’t just open up to people. So when I came out to Utah, which is a very different culture, everyone’s really friendly here, and it was a culture shock for me. And in fact, the first time I took Josie back home with me, she was in a culture shock. She was like, these people are so rude. I’m like, Oh, they kind of are not intended to be that way. It’s just no one trusts anybody, right? But let’s talk about high school, and then work, and then military, then we’ll come back to Utah. All right. High School for me, I didn’t love it. I you know, I wasn’t bullied, but I also wasn’t popular, and I hated high school. Elementary school was cool. I was down for that. I liked it. Man, wearing sweat pads. Just loving life. Everyone’s real friendly and fun. And next thing you know, you’re in middle school, and you get mixed in with other local schools. Now you’re meeting all these new sort of now is competition. There’s jocks and preppies and stuff. And I, I lost ground on that battle real quick. And, you know, and I was good at school, like, as far as far as getting good grades, like, I could do it. I just didn’t care. I wanted to hang out with the bad kids and do bad stuff. School wasn’t interesting to me. And, you know, I, you know, I had a lot of I had great grades in elementary school, like, straight A’s and stuff. But then once I started getting bad influences, that dipped, and I think that’s why my dad gave me a hard time, to be honest. I think he knew, like, I was always in the advanced math classes. I went to math bowl, I could crush spelling bees. And in fact, this is very formative, because I remember vividly in sixth grade, we didn’t have spelling bees, and I would crush it. I knew how to spell and my friends dropped out early in the spelling bee. And I wanted to be with them. I wanted to be like them, so I purposefully screwed up the words to drop out of the spelling bee. Anyway, yeah, so, I mean, there was always this sort of dark passenger for me. Why? I don’t know. I don’t know. I remember we had in fourth grade, we had to memorize every state in America and whoever could point them out on the map and say them the fastest one. And I was always very competitive. I was competitive, but I had low self esteem at the same time. It’s very strange. And I crushed it. I mean, I crushed it like I blew everybody out the water. I remember that vividly because, you know, like, those are, those are good experiences to have some wins under your belt.

Let’s see, okay, so, okay. So where we at here? I get kicked out of the house, and, you know, I ended up joining the military, right? And it’s not because I was like, Oh yeah, I’m gung ho, and I want to go, you know, shoot people or defend my country. It was none of that. It was this was an option for me and a lot of people they, you know, from my experience in the military, that’s how a lot of people are. They have no other options. I tried to get a better paying job at the there was a printing press. I. And a roofer job like my friends try to get me on with them, roofing, which, in hindsight, thank God, like I’m terrified of heights, and I couldn’t, I couldn’t get a better paying job, so I ended up joining the military, and obviously it’s a very influential part of my life as well. Joining it out of necessity. My How much do I want to let you guys in someone I knew it was in the military, and I asked them about it, and they were like, they were in the Air Force, and they were like, Oh, it’s great, it’s easy. It’s like a regular ass job. And I was like, bet that’s what I’m doing then, right? And I didn’t know it at the time. There’s different lifestyles inside of the military, okay? And she worked medical, which is a very different it’s kind of seemed like maybe it was more chill or in the base you’re at, depends a lot, too. And I go in and I and I told the recruiter, I said, I want to do I want to because, remember, I had this, ITT electronics fantasy. I said, I want to do electronics. And my recruiters, like, bet I got you dog. I’m gonna get you. I mean, I’ll never forget it. He said you’re gonna be working with the Speer 1109, mainframe in munitions. I was like, That sounds awesome a mainframe. I don’t even know what that means, but I’ve seen it in GI Joe. There’s a guy named mainframe, and he’s like the electronics geek, oh yeah, let’s go buddy. So I signed up. So is my bestie, by the way. We joined on the buddy system, the quote, unquote buddy system, where they immediately split us up. But he got off the bus and I ended up getting into a career field called ammo, all right, munition systems. It’s called ammo, and it’s a little bit more gruntish than medical, all right, which made it fun, in the same way it made it fun. But it was, you know, we would do all kinds of horrific grab ass shit. I can’t self incriminate but hazing was a thing. I mean, it was, it was pretty rowdy, okay? And the military life was not for me. Lots of, lots of, well, let’s start at the beginning. So I start out, I sign up with my bestie. He’s like, Oh, I got the recruiters. Like, oh, we’re gonna put you guys in munitions. You can do all the cool stuff. And we’re like, bet, let’s do it. So we go to basic training. And basic training is exactly what they tell you, it is. It’s basic training. They strip you down to the base and rebuild you. Okay? Because remember, I didn’t sign up because I was patriotic. I signed up because I needed a job. I needed to be a place to stay, right? I couldn’t pay the rent anymore, and I signed up, and we go to Basic and and look, I’m five foot eight. And when I was 18, when I signed up, I weighed 125 pounds. I currently weigh 185 but, you know, I’m five eight, so I’m not like the biggest guy on Earth, especially now when I was 18, and, you know, basic training was more or less what you see on the movies, right, getting screamed at, lots of traumatizing, emotional damage. Of course, you know, it’s the Air Force, so it’s not as it’s not quite as intense as the army or the Marines, I’m sure, right? But nonetheless, like, it’s no cakewalk. It’s not easy. Well, depend. It depends, right? Because, like, I the squadron I was in, I was in the 3/20 and we, I feel like I was part of some experiment, because the other squadrons we had, you know, you spend roughly two months. It’s like seven weeks. I think they call the first week, zero week, and then you got six more, roughly two months. And the other squadrons I seen that, they would, they would eat ice cream. And I was like, bro, we didn’t, we don’t get to eat ice cream. What are you talking about? So I don’t know if my experience was regular or typical or not, but we get there immediately. They pull me aside. They’re like, you’re the dorm chief. So what that means is, I am the sort of, I don’t wanna say the drill instructor, but I’m more or less the guy running in charge of 60 men in my squadron. Okay, so when the when the drill instructor isn’t there, that’s they are my responsibility. And in fact, when I’m got them in formation or marching them, if another drill instructor comes by and sees I’m doing something wrong or something or I’m sorry, better, one of my one of my Airmen, is doing something wrong, they rip my ass. Okay? Huge responsibility. So I get assigned the dorm chief. I get four element leaders. They’re kind of my subordinates, and then the rest are sort of the the regular Airmen, right? What is that? 5555 55 men. And then, you know, the. Leadership, so I’m the king, right? I didn’t want to do any of this. Why did they put me? Because normally the dorm chief is like, the biggest, baddest dude that everyone will listen to, or a guy’s been through ROTC that knows what, what, how to march people. I was none of that. I was a quiet, shy, no self esteem, no confidence guy, right? And they’re like, you’re the dorm chief. And I was like, what? And they had me marching them, and I’ll never forget when I went, because we had, I think it was maybe a weekend, right? They teach you the basics of how to march. And they were like, Okay, you’re the dorm chief. Now you march them. And you got to stand in the back of the 60 men and scream forward for them all to hear you and tell them when to turn and when to you know. You know half left, half you know, half right, hard left, hard right, stop, you know, halt, whatever. And I didn’t know what I was doing. I had no idea. And I marched them into a wall. I marched them into a wall, and they wanted to kick my ass. I had these big black dudes eyeing me down like they were gonna whoop my ass. I was like, Oh, my God, I’m gonna get murdered. And it was super scary, but I adapted. I was able to figure it out. And our brother flight a different group of 60 airmen. Mean that dorm chief would meet up and we would like have, I don’t know what you call it, little meetings or whatever, and their dorm chief, if you screw up, you get recycled two weeks. And I was terrified to get recycled, because my mother and father were coming down to watch my graduation, which was planned, you know, two months from then, and they had already bought their plane tickets. So if I get recycled in my head as a kid, I was like, Oh my God, these my dad’s gonna yell at me, right? Like, not gonna they gotta change plane tickets. And I was terrified. I was I was more concerned about them having to change plane tickets than anything, more than me having to do two more weeks in basic anything. And I made it through the whole time. And by the end of it, I was eight up, you know, I was eight up. There’s a there’s a picture of me, if I put it on there, there’s a picture of me in basic, like, screaming into the camera, doing the, what they call the confidence, course, right? And, yeah, so I was really ate up by the end. I got full brainwashed dose, and the other dorm chief, they recycled, like three of them. So I don’t think this was typical either, right for me to make it through the whole way I did. I thought, Man, that’s, you know, these are all things that boosted my confidence over the years and led me to having a podcast and all this crap.

But, um, yeah, and it was, it was gnarly. I remember we did a field training exercise. Was like your war simulation. And we you hike out with this 80 pound ruck, you go out to the the the wild or whatever, and you do basically this war thing. And I remember we, I was in a tent, and, like, you were not asleep for like, two or three days. And I remember standing up because they were like, if you sleepy, you stand up. Because if you get caught sleeping, that’s your ass. I remember standing up and, like, closing my eyes, and like, I swear to God, I slept standing up. When you’re that sleep deprived, you really find a way. And and I got, what do you call strep throat. I got strep throat while we’re out doing this, and I came back. I was sick as a dog. And I remember coming back, you marching eight miles. It was an 80 pound rock makes a 50 pound ruck. Anyway you get back. I remember my I had blisters all over my feet. I had strep throat. I was like, just kill me now. And they gave me a shot of penicillin. And, man, the next morning, I was up and had him again, you know, ready to rock, but I made it right. I made it through. And I was pumped up. I was pumped up to be in the Air Force. I was like, hell yeah, let’s go. And so that brainwashing thing really works. And over the years, and I don’t know if we’ll talk about this here in a minute or not. But over the years, even when I got out, I only did four years when I got out, I routinely thought about reenlisting. And I tended to reenlist. You know, 10 years later, after I got through college, I was like, I’m going back in. We’re doing this. But that, that was a that was what got me into CrossFit, because I was trying to get into EOD, which was like explosive ordinance disposal, because that was kind of a related career field to ammo, because they used to all be one career field, and then they split them up because EOD guys and went men and women. They they go through a separate sort of amount of training. They’re kind of, I don’t want to say, like they’re the leads, but like, not everyone can handle it, right? You got a lot of mental, mental and physical capabilities you need to have to be an EOD. It’s almost considered a special ops. I think we talk about it later, so we’ll come back to that. So anyway, so I joined the military, boom, boom, first duty station Utah. I saw Utah. What? What I remember, I was in the I was in the chow hall, and I was like, I was so pissed, because I want to stay on the East Coast. I wanted to go Florida. I say, Utah. What the hell’s out there a bunch of Mormons. And this girl the table, this woman at the table, excuse me, she was like, Yeah, I’m from Utah, and I’m Mormon. And I was like, Oh, I felt like a jerk, you know? And so reluctantly, I come out to Utah. I’m this is embarrassing. I remember I was dating a girl in PA there. Dated her through basic, you know, and I called her when I got into Utah. I remember I was in Salt Lake City, and I was so devastated not seeing my friends, my girlfriend, and I cried on the phone. I was like, oh my god, what am I doing on here? I was so sad. And anyway, I ended up, I ended up enjoying it. So I get, I get to my duty station. One of the guys who was in my squadron in basic, he was from Allentown too, and he, he turned out to be my, my bestie in Utah. Because, like I said, they split they split up me and my, my guy, I signed up with my bestie growing up, they split us up. Like, almost immediately we signed up on the Buddy Program. And forget that. And so I made new friends here, right? And this guy, he actually got me in trouble once, because he kept, he would never keep. And when you’re standing in formation, you got to keep your eyes straight forward, okay? And, and this guy kept looking around, you need these big, big brown eyes. And I always see the whites of his eyes looking out, and I always at the yelling like, Bro. Eyes forward. You know you’re gonna get me in trouble, dummy. So anyways, me and him, like we were, we were best eat right off the bat in Utah here, and he got into a car accident. I’m not gonna go into severe detail here, but he got into a DWI car accident and got paralyzed, and it crushed me. I went into the ER or the critical ICU, I should say, and he at first, he couldn’t talk. They weren’t sure what his what his outcome was going to be, how paralyzed he was, and it was hard to watch, you know. And these are the kind of things that snap you out of acting like a juvenile and being irresponsible, you know, because I like to party before I like to party. Get in trouble. But that was one of the moments where I grew up real quick. And, you know, fast forward, he’s doing great now married. I want to I. He invited me to his wedding. Got kids, you know, I need to stay in touch with them better. I don’t stay in touch with my friends like I should. And then I had another friend in the military who influenced me heavily. He was very rebellious. It was a rock star. He had like a bad he was fantastic. He was, I don’t know how he didn’t blow up, played guitar, lead, lead vocals, and he’s the one that laid out to me, we’re going back to 99 folks. He’s the one that told me about how he was like, Look, I never taken that anthrax shot, because in the military, you’re taking anthrax vaccine if you deploy. And he was getting out because of it. He his friend, his girlfriend, she got kicked out because she refused to take it. And I was like, What? What are they doing to us? And there’s this series of anthrax shots. So, I mean, we’re, these are the first seed of anti Vax. Back in 99 I got, and, you know, I didn’t want to, I don’t want to take it after hearing his story about it. But, you know, this is before the internet really was a place you could find information. And, you know, I was 18, I don’t know I was just kind of young and dumb, but he told me all this stuff, and it was like landing in and I was like, bro, and I respected the hell out of this guy. And but, you know, in the military, you don’t have options if they tell you you’re taking this thing, you’re taking it like that. There’s no if ands or buts. You’re taking it. We’ll come back to this here in a minute. But his outlook on life influenced me heavily, because I, in fact, one example, I was complaining about Utah and being like all these Mormons, white bread Mormons. There’s no culture here, this place sucks. And he told me something that’s always stuck with me, and I want you guys to hear this too, sage wisdom. He said, Yeah, but what you want everyone to be like you like? Wouldn’t that be a boring world to be in where everyone’s the same, which ironically, is part of the critique I had about Utah. But the point being is that you have to embrace the diversity. You have to embrace people’s different worldviews and perspectives, because life would be really boring if we were all just in lockstep with each other, wouldn’t it? And that’s always stuck with me, and it’s true, he influenced me, and this is 99 so Eminem was. Popular. I dyed my hair blonde, which, you know, in the military, I got in trouble immediately because it’s a faddish haircut. But I was always a bit rebellious. It’s like, whatever I was supposed to do, I was like, I’m gonna do something a little different. So I’m a bit of an anti establishment guy, which influences a lot of my conspiracy thinking and my perspective on it, and you’ll notice that my perspective on conspiracies has changed a lot over the years, particularly in 2020 everyone became a conspiracy theorist, and now I find myself at odds with them. And I think is that because I’m just like anti conformist and like anti establishment now this is the norm. So now I’m like, No, you guys are wrong, you know. And that’s one of my angles I’m trying to work on, is trying to be more less combative with conspiracies that I disagree with, you know. But like, I had my tongue pierced when I was in the military. You’re not allowed to do that. Why did I do that? I don’t know, but, um. And then, speaking of Mormons like to put a bow on that aspect. Coming out to Utah, they’re very nice people, but there’s a culture shock. If you’re from the East Coast, like you distrust everybody, like, why? Don’t ask me how I’m doing. You know, there’s like that element, but you know, Utah’s very conservative, very religious. There’s a lot of elements of that that don’t gel with East Coasters. But, yeah, they’re very nice people. I don’t know. I don’t have a problem with them. And in Utah, is where I met up with Dr aneater, who, you heard me interview him not too long ago on this show. And yeah, anyway, we um, so anyways, I’m in Utah, and then I get orders to do a short tour in Osan Air Base in South Korea. Now, short tour is a one year tour of duty, all right? And I was dating Josie before I left Utah. She’s from Utah. It’s where I met her, and I resisted falling in love with her for a variety of reasons. I’d been cheated on by my serious relationships. I also insisted I need to go back to PA. That’s, you know, it’s where everything’s at. I need to go back home. So I didn’t want to, I didn’t want to lay roots in Utah at all, and I really loved her, but I rejected it. I dissociated from it. And it was when I got on the plane. This is back pre

December of 2000 All right, pre 911 used to be able to take people all the way to the terminal and wait around in the airport with your loved ones as they took off. And here I got these orders to do a one year short tour, and I’m like, Well, that’s it for us. I guess, guess I’m out of here and I’ll never see her again. And she took me to the terminal, and I’ll never forget hugging her goodbye and just crying and feeling like as I walked down the little terminal thing to get on the plane. It just was like, What are these feelings? What is this, you know? And I realized I I loved her. And we proceeded to do a long distance thing for a whole year, which is kind of crazy too, right? We were both young, and, yeah, I it worked. You know? I stayed true. And yeah, so going to Osan is what made me realize I was in love with my, with my now wife, Josie. And now another element of this was the anthrax thing, right? I still was like, I’m not taking that thing, luckily for me as God would make it happen. There was a mate, an officer somewhere, who I don’t know, filed a thing with the Supreme Court that he wasn’t going to take it. So they temporarily suspended forcing the vac the anthrax shots right before I left, because I was supposed to get it. They were like, here’s your orders. Go get your anthrax shots. And I was like, I’m not doing that. And luckily for me, I literally dodged that bullet right? And the whole time I was in Korea, I was like, they’re gonna make me take these shots. And but they were, there was a legal battle, and spoiler alert, like I ended up not having to take it, because by the time I came back and they reinforced the rule. I was already back, and I was like, good to go, but yeah, I was on what they call mobility status the whole time, so, like I was supposed to take them anyway, anyway. So I’m in Korea, and I have this experience where I got to work with EOD explosive ordinance disposal. And what you what we did was we were taking expired munitions that had to be destroyed. And it was like me and these, I don’t know, four or five EOD guys, and we would go out to a place called Cooney Island, and you would basically load up a backpack. And you would take it out there, and you would basically blow them up, okay? And you’d have to go out there at low tide and then come back because high tide would come through, and whatever, um, and those guys were, like, so professional and so intelligent and so nice and and they were like, kind of badass, like kind of badass, like they had all this crazy gear. And I was like, it was just opened my eyes, because I worked in ammo where, like, we were playing grab ass and shoot each other’s slingshots and doing all kinds of crazy stuff I can’t get into but, um, I remember being like, dude, like, like, role model type stuff. I thought, man, like these guys are impressive, and so that. So I say that because that’s going to play a role later. Okay, then 911 happens, and I’ll never forget it was, you know, I don’t what time was it nine in the morning in New York. So in Korea, it was like two in the morning or something, and they wake us all up. They’re like, hey, you know, get ready. We’re going to war. And everyone’s like, freaking out. And I worked in the bomb dump. And when you work in the bomb dump, you have to be segregated from the rest of the base because of explosive standards of how far, because if something accidentally explodes, like, you can’t have a bomb next to the chow hall, right? So you gotta, it’s a ways away, a couple miles away. And because 911 they were like, okay, you know, like, we’re scrambling to get to work, right? We got to get there, like, you know, early. So I, I remember walking because there’s a bus, there’s an ammo bus that usually pick us up, but this is so early and unexpected, right? They’re like, You need to go in early, because it was my turn to do the security duty. All right? Security duty was like, there’s a gate to the model you got to check IDs, whatever. And so I had to go in first. So I start walking. I’ll never forget it was like the eeriest feeling just walking by myself in the dark, like 911 happened. Everyone thought it was like the end of the world. It was kind of crazy. And I get there, and we had increased our What do you call it, threat level, to the point where we were supposed to have assault rifles to man the gate. Because prior to this, it was like, chill. It was like, that’s fine. Don’t worry about it. I got, I got, was supposed to put him in a headlock, I guess, I don’t know, but so I remember, I was kind of freaking out at this point, and I was like, bro, like, I need that. I need that rifle, like I’m, you know, I want to make sure, like, I got something to back me up in case some stuff goes down, right? Because at this point, nobody knew what was going on. It felt like the end of the world type stuff. And there was a guy, so there’s two of us working the shack and and we’re trying to make this happen. And then a SUV pulls up, and I go outside the gate to talk to them, and I’m like, where’s your ID to get into the bombed up? And they’re like, We don’t have it. We have this other ID. And I was like, Well, you’re not, you’re not getting in. And the guy was like, well, I need to call so and so. So he walks over to the gate to use the phone. There’s a phone attached to the the security shack there, and my buddy, who’s working with me, he’s inside the shack, just kind of watching, and I’m standing out by the SUV, kind of like keeping an eye on the two guys in the SUV. And I look back at my buddy at the shack, and the guy using the phone, and he’s got a windbreaker on, and the wind picks up, and it lists the back of his windbreaker, and he’s strapped. He’s got this weapon in his back pants. And I’m not a gun guy. I swear it was an Uzi, which didn’t make sense, because, like, if it was regular security forces or, you know, OSI or something, you think they would have like, a nine mil in a holster or something. I swear it looked like an Uzi, and it was just tucked in the back of his pants. And I was like, Oh no, it’s a terrorist. We’re about to die. And I’m looking at my buddy, and I’m pointing to him without trying to get the attention of the two guys in the SUV. And I’m like, Look at the guy with a thing, you know, like, and it’s anticlimactic ending to the story, my apologies, but I’m just looking at him, and he comes walking back, and they and he gets an SUV, and they take off, and I walk up to the thing. I’m like, I tell my friend. I’m like, bro, what was that, you know? And we never, we never learned what it was. My guess is it was some kind of OSI intelligence thing, and they were trying to do something. I don’t know what they were trying to do, but I almost became the first casualty of the military after 911 I thought, I thought I was gonna die. And yeah, so 911 was pretty traumatic, right? And, in fact, I was in nine. Me and Dr Anne eater, we were at Osan at the same time. We would skateboard a ton drink a ton of alcohol, watch tons of movies. He tried to get me to watch dune. The Lynch is dune. And I remember being like, What is this crap? I thought was boring. I’d fall asleep. But yeah, he was trying to get me into that, right? And Osan, I started kind of getting red pilled a little bit more too, right? I remember, I ordered L Ron Hubbard’s Dianetics book and at the through the library system, and it came through this massive book. And I was like, I’m not reading all that. So I didn’t read it. You know? I also had read that Tupac had an interest in Alice Bailey who. I didn’t know who that was at the time either. So I ordered this Alice Bailey book. I still got it, and I should try to revisit it, but it was mad confusing. I was like, What is this lady talking about? It was all heavy duty occult stuff, and I still got that book. I should take another look and see if it makes sense now. But I also had friends who were turning me on to like, I read a bunch of Bill O’Reilly’s books. I liked Bill O’Reilly at the time. Now, I started to sort of explore things a little bit more, right, trying to wake up to things. So I get done at Osan. I get sent back to the States, to Florida, right and down at Eglin Air Force Base, and my, you know, me, and me and Josie get back together. Rekindling is very difficult. If you’ve ever been apart from someone for a year, you both change a fair amount, especially when you’re young and like, you know, 20 years old at this point, or whatever, we end up getting married, and we did a Justice of the Peace wedding, and Josie says, Look, I want to have an actual proper church wedding. So we need so I need to get baptized orthodox. Because she was Orthodox, she was Greek Orthodox, but she didn’t go regularly. She would what they call submarine Christians. She would show up for Easter and Christmas. Twice a year she’d show up. And I was just like, Alright, sounds good. I’m a Christian. You know, I was raised in a Nazarene church. Mind you, the second the the rule was at my house, when I was 16, I could make the choice whether I kept going to church or not, and when I turned 16, I never went again. Okay, which kind of it gives you the background on why I’m, like, Christian, but not too hardcore about it, because I don’t identify with the culture of a lot of Christians.

So I remember we went to the local Orthodox Church, and the priest is kind of just talking to me, and he’s like, you know, we take communion, right? And I’m like, okay, yeah, yeah. And he’s like, What do you think about communion? And I was like, oh, symbolically it represents, you know, blood and body of Christ. And he got mad. He was like, No, it’s literally the blood and body. And I was like, What are you talking about? Like, it didn’t make sense to me the time. And you know, that’s the Transubstantiation. It’s one of the mysteries of orthodoxy. Like, we believe. It literally turns into the blood and body of Christ. It’s sacred, and I get it now, but back then I didn’t Right. Um, anyways, one of my to stick to, sort of the red pill journey. One of my buddies from Osan was telling me about Bill Cooper. Behold a Pale Horse. And when I got to Florida, I looked for it, and I found it, and I bought it, and I loved it. And like I said, I worked on the bomb dump so it was too far from the apartment I lived in to drive home on my lunch break. So I would just read, behold a pale horse on my lunch break. And I loved it, right? I was really into aliens and crap like that, but it was, it was this duty station that made me really want to get out of the military, because the first shirt wasn’t helping me get off base housing. That’s why I got married, and my shop chief I had finally because I worked in sort of the grunt field of ammo, like out in storage and handling, moving bombs and, you know, doing inspections and things like that. And I finally had a good spot in ammo, and they were like, No, you’re going back out there with the grunts. You know, you’re on the elements all day. You get to drive really big trucks and equipment and stuff. So that’s kind of cool. So I could drive like a 10 ton, 40 foot truck like a champ. But, um, yeah, he put me back out there, and I was like, I’m getting out, dude. I’ve had it. And when they send you, when you go to get out, they send you to what they call taps Transition Assistance Program or something like that, and they scare the crap out of you for two days about how scary it is on the outside and like, look, no one’s gonna take care of you, and you got to be responsible for your own health insurance. And I was like, it’s fine, dude. Like, I did this when I when, like, I remember I had been kicked out when I was 18. I was like, it’s fine, but it was scary, even with all that. I was like, Ooh, I see how people stay in because this is scary, because it was, I. So anyways, I get out of the military, because I went from being sort of ate up and hardcore to not liking it by the time I got out. Okay? And we moved to Utah, and I get a job, basically being a janitor. So there I was being a janitor again, and I would listen to because the whole deal was, I was going to go to college, right? I was going to get a degree in electronics engineering. Going to be I got to work with electronics. I got to do it. I was like, I’ll go to school for it. Because my uncle was an electronic engineer, and he was the wealthiest guy I knew. I mean, I say wealthy, he’s not wealthy. He had more money than anyone I knew in any family or anything. And I was like, I want to do what he does. So because I was like, tired of being broke, you know, and I would, so I started work. I’d be a janitor. I would, I would go to college at the same time. Now it’s like, what 2003 I would listen to mp I would listen to, this is before MP, three players, right? So I had a radio, and I would listen to NPR because you could, there’s only so much music you can listen to when you listen to music, when you have the ability to listen to stuff all day. This is before podcast. So I would listen to talk radio, which was NPR and Fox News Radio, I would listen to both equally, not even knowing that one was extremely liberal and one was extremely conservative. I liked both of them, I but I knew, like listening to Hannity and stuff, I was like, these guys are like, angry, bro. Why so angry? I liked NPR better because it seemed more informative and was like you know, Doug Fabrizio, or whoever was on the thing, and some jazz music, like, I liked that. I was like, I like, chilling, man, I don’t need more stress. But I still would enjoy the Fox News. Like, I’d had no problem with what they were saying. I just it was the vibe they put out that my first impression was, this feels like way too violent or something. So I did a janitor thing for about eight months, and the whole time I was like, I’m gonna reenlist. I hate this. They treat me like a jerk. I can have because by the time I left the military, I’d done, you know that fourth year I was a crew chief, I was running operations and lots of responsibility, okay? And my whole life working, I was like, I can do better than this as a janitor, like I would see idiots out there working on the floor, doing mechanic work. And I was like, Dude, I can do that. What the hell I was a Honda mechanic. And the word got around, and they finally picked me up, and I got a job as a mechanic, working on generators. And at this time around, I don’t know, 2005 another mechanic was talking to me about, we’re talking about Riley Martin, who was a UFO abductee. He was on Howard Stern. Oh, I forgot to mention, growing up, I listen to a ton of Howard Stern. I loved it. He was the best. And that’s I loved his sort of rebellious nature. I loved how he would say controversial stuff and inappropriate, dirty, racy stuff. My dad loved Howard Stern. I loved Howard Stern. And I like, I just, I was really drawn to all that, right? And, and I don’t think I, I don’t think I finished talking about my music interest. I was, I think I was 13, and my buddy brought over Dr J, Dr Dre, the chronic on a cassette tape. And I listened to it. My mind was blown. I was like, bro, they’re using the N word, what is this? And like, that whole like gangster element to it and doing drugs. I was like, This Is Hardcore, man. I like this. And I got into gangster rap early. I also listened to, like ICE T body count to Live Crew, if it the more controversial was, the more I was into it, you know. And anyway, so, so, like, I was into Howard Stern, right now, that’s what got me into Riley Martin, me talking to this friend. He was a Marine, ironically, same to so we talk about military stuff. And he got me into David Ike. He gave me a VHS copy of David Ike’s freedom Road, which was a VHS of David Ike. It wasn’t even a arena or nothing. It was just him talking in front of a screen, in front of a shitty little, or sorry, I said I wasn’t gonna swear a crappy little, uh, video camera thing, you know, but I liked what he was saying, and I would I ripped the audio. Now it’s like, you know, 2005 or six, and I had a little mp three player, and I was able to rip it to an mp three and I would listen to it at work over and over again, talking about the Annunaki and shape shifting reptilian people. I was like, oh, yeah, dude. This is great. Meanwhile, I’m going to college, and I’m learning engineering and physics mathematics. And for my electives, I took a politics in America course where we talked about the Constitution, the, you know, the different, I can’t think of the smart words for it, like the three branches of government. There you go, legislative, executive and judicial. So I’m pretty hip to how the government works, right, and how politics works. And this starts opening up my eyes to things, you know, and consuming NPR and Fox News, and, you know, Michael Moore the Fahrenheit 911 documentary. And I’m trying to put all these pieces together. I read Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States. Some point later, Oliver Stone made a series called The Untold History of the United States. I recommend all these to everybody, and it basically it red pills you into questioning the official narrative right now. It also lays a foundation for what they call wokeness, all right. That lays the foundation for the idea of questioning. If the foundations of America are are moral or ethical, which obviously there’s elements that are not okay. And this is when I learned, without knowing it, that magic is real, that through the mainstream media, through you could even throw in the indoctrination of college, which I actually don’t subscribe to. I’m actually very pro College, pro education. You. Because if I didn’t have these, these tools at my disposal, this education that I had, then I wouldn’t be doing what I’m doing today. Okay, so what I learned was that reality there is a it’s like Alex Jones’s infowards as a battle for your mind. That is true, all these sources are fighting to tell you what’s real out there. And it kind of becomes maddening, in a way. Okay,

so I’m going to college and taking it super serious, because you got to remember, I’ve been working my whole life, and nothing seems to be working for me. I’m broke constantly. I have no control over my life, and I finally graduate with my bachelor’s degree, with a minor in mathematics, major in electronics engineering, with a 3.9 GPA, right? With 165 credits, because it’s a lot of math, and I got high honors. I was in four honor societies. I absolutely crushed it, okay? And with the help of my and I worked all the way through that, right? I worked a full time job the whole time. I had GI Bill. Thank god help me pay for it. I had my wife, thank God, and her family, who helped me get through this. But it was certainly no cakewalk. And in 2011 I think, I graduated in 2009 and around 2011 I started blogging because I had this two year break before I started grad school, and I was getting bored, because when you go for six years of college of learning, regurgitating testing, your brain gets conditioned to consume data, in a way. And that’s why I started blogging, because I wanted to do more of that. And I thought, well, this is a fun thing. I can just talk about rap and horror movies and conspiracies, and that’s what the blog was. It was modeled after I was a big fan, and currently still am, of bloody disgusting.com because that’s all horror movie news and collectibles and things like that. So that’s kind of what I was trying to do, something like that and the and it’s funny, because looking back on it, my mother in law, she showed me there was this blogger in Utah who would blog like, I don’t remember what it was like, things families can do or something. And she was making tons of money doing it and how. And she was like, You should do that. I was like, I should do that. And so that wasn’t the intention. It wasn’t like, oh, I should do that and then have this be my actual job. It wasn’t like that at all. It was more like, oh, that’s That looks like fun. And like, maybe I can make some money. And so anyhow, so I had this two year break before I started grad school with Penn State Online Penn State Systems Engineering degree, and I was getting bored, so I start this blog like a total idiot. I don’t realize it goes to show you that somehow, sometimes you have no idea where life takes you. Is what I’m trying to say. I had zero plans on it, blowing up or becoming a podcast or writing books. I had no plans of any of that. It was just something I was doing to. Fill time. I was actually filling my time with online gambling of playing Texas Hold’em, because back then, like you could play, I mean, it wasn’t tons of money. I mean, it was pennies. I mean, I’m talking like 20 bucks, right? And I could play Texas Hold’em for hours. And then they, at some point, they passed some kind of law where they blocked it or something, and they still, they still got my 20 bucks. But that’s why I started blogging, because whoever passed the thing that blocked it back then around 2011 ish, and actually, I’d started drawing comics. I drove a whole comic about a conspiracy with an alien and stuff. Again, if I have the photo, I’ll take a photo of it and send but it’s a whole comic book. I drew up this whole story of aliens and going to the moon and stuff. That’s where it started. Okay, then it’s shifted to a blog. So I start, and this is where I finished my topic of college. Then, in August of 2011 I start my first semester at Penn State, which I grew up. My dad used to take me to Penn State football games. I loved it, right? It was so fun. We went to, like a few I went to the, ironically, the game where Ty Detmer from BYU, the quarterback, broke the NCAA passing record. I was at that game I went to like, three or four games. Wasn’t like all the time, but I loved it, you know, and and I should put it for the sports ball people, it was when I turned 16 that I stopped liking sports, because I liked getting into other things at that point, fill in those blanks with what you will, a 16 year old boy would be into. So that’s what made me stop watching sports. It wasn’t like I was mad at it or anything. I just I was more interested in doing other stuff, and I just didn’t, never picked it up again. So until last year, when I decided, You know what, I’m gonna start watching football again, and now I love it. You know, just go to how much things change over the year, over the years. So 2011 I start Penn State, and I’m so proud. I’m like, Oh man, this is great, my great state of PA. I mean, I did it online, right through correspondence. It was Penn State. It meant a lot to me. And all hell breaks loose immediately. The first semester I’m in, the Jerry Sandusky scandal happens. Faza, you gotta be kidding me. I was so proud. I was wearing Penn State stuff head to toe, and now they’re the disgrace of the world. I was like, You gotta be kidding me. What are the odds? Joe Pott, the Joe Paterno statue gets taken down. I was like, This is crazy. What are the odds? I mean, it’s just, it’s just the way life is for me, right? And at the time, I was, I wasn’t. I still wasn’t working electronics. Yet I was, I moved to an office type job when I got my degree done and working, like, supply chain stuff, nothing crazy, but I’m like, Well, I still want to be an engineer. What the hell? So I was like, Well, let me get the mask, because my my, one of my sort of mentors at college, was like, Well, dude, you need to get your master’s degree. Because now that, like, things are so competitive, you need your masters, and you’re gonna forget all this math. If you wait too long, you’re gonna forget all this math. And I was like, All right, cool. So that’s why, that’s why I did it. So I went to, I did Penn State Online. The first course is a washout course full of mathematics, differentials, linears, number theory, all that stuff. I used all of it. And the the I lost my train of thought, see, that’s why I don’t do shows longer than an hour, folks, I don’t know anyway, let’s start at the Penn State thing Sandusky happens. Then the next year, my dad dies, which is obviously a very traumatic experience, okay, but I did the Penn State. I did it in two years. Graduated in 2013 with my master’s in systems engineering. I was a systems engineer for a while as well, and I liked it. I took a lot of pride in it. But to finish with my father, it was very traumatic. I remember flying back to PA twice before he died because he was in hospice. He died because of medical issues, and he died young. He was 56 and you know, there’s a whole bunch of stuff going on there that I don’t want to get into, but there’s a mixture of mental and physical health things, I think. But either way, he was in hospice. And the second time I flew out, the last time I saw my dad, it was very traumatic. And I’m not saying that like a little poor me. It’s not like that at all. It was just it’s scar tissue in the brain, right? Because me and my dad weren’t very close. You know, in my family, we didn’t hug, we didn’t say we. Love and say, I love you. We didn’t do none of that right? And it just wasn’t enough. We don’t it’s just not an affectionate family. And my father was especially not very affectionate. And the last night, I’m with him at the hospice, and I decide I’m gonna fly back the next morning at like five in the morning from Philly, and I decide, you know, is the last time I would see my dad. He’s dying in hospice, and at this point, he’s not talking like that’s, he’s close to the end. And I’m like, I’m staying the night with him, I guess, I don’t know. And I remember, I was watching Netflix. I was just trying to stay awake, you know, because my dad would, he would kind of like, he would fall asleep, and then he would wake up, like it would seem like, every 20 minutes he’d wake up and be like, kind of panicked, like scared, which is crazy, because my dad was this big, scary alpha male dude. I’d never seen him scared, but that was the vibe I got, was he was scared because he was dying, and, um, that

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