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Speaker 1 0:03
Should you have any personal knowledge of people who’ve been harmed or injured in efforts to cover up or conceal these extraterrestrial technology? Yes.
Isaac Weishaupt 0:14
Welcome back to occult symbolism and pop culture. I’m your host, Isaac Weishaupt. Today, we’re gonna go through this ultra hiked congressional hearing about UFOs and aliens. I’m giving you the juicy bits today. So you don’t have to sit through two and a half hours of stuffy, boring procedural talk. I’m going to talk to you today about most everything we’ve talked about. I’m gonna give you the very fast, brief version. I’m going to talk about black coot black cube UFOs Dugway, area 52. If you’ve ever heard of that, that got brought up quantum physics holographic reality that’s, that’s the interesting aspects of this whole thing. Something called Eye rad and you know, a lot of stuff you might need a skiff, if you want to hear the whole thing. All right. So sit tight, we’re gonna blast through this thing. And look, if you don’t know who I am, I wrote two books on this subject in 2020, called aliens UFOs. In the occult user illusion, one and two. All right. If you haven’t read those, that breaks down how the cult plays a role in the entire agenda in the phenomenon, they are going through a rebranding effort. I think there’s a lot of propaganda behind all of this. I don’t know the truth clearly, why would I I’m not involved with any of these key players. But you can see there’s an angle, when you look at the history of the occult, and a lot of the occultist and magicians of trying to make contact with entities from another dimension. And I argue that’s exactly what we’re trying to do what we’re trying to talk about here. And the question is, are the players involved in this? Seeking to reveal this to us? And if so, why? Or are they trying to give us just a little taste so that they can keep doing what they’re doing and have more money to do it? I don’t know. We’re gonna we’re going to talk more about this in the conclusion. Let’s get into it. On July 26th 2023, there was a hearing from the Congressional House Oversight Subcommittee on national security. And they took testimony from three main figures that have been prominent in the phenomenon in the last few years. David grish, he is the whistleblower. interviewed on news nation. I did two shows on that in Was it May or June of 23. We went through that whole interview. So I put a link in the show notes. Do you want the link? I’ll give you the link. I’ll give you the link. I’ll put the link in the show notes. So he was a former US intelligence agent. Which is, you know, that’s a red flag, usually a red flag. Commander David Faber former Navy pilot, featured on Joe Rogan. He’s been doing all the rounds with the UFO sweethearts, given lectures and such, he witnessed actual UFOs. Same goes for Ryan Graves, another former Navy pilot, okay. They were the three providing testimony to all these old turds in Congress. I’m giving you the blow by blow. But but like I said, I’m gonna save you a lot of time. There’s two and a half hours. Oh, and also, since I got your ear, I got more paperback copies, you want a signed copy of alien UFOs. And you call it you go to gumroad.com/isaac w link is always in the show notes, my friends, support your favorite podcaster your favorite researcher. Those books are going to become more relevant as time goes on. 2025 is when the lids gonna blow off of all this stuff. All right. All right, starts off. There’s a congress person named Mr. Grothman. And he’s, you know, because they’re all given their little intro preamble to Well, thank you for gathering here today, everybody. We’re here to talk about a very important subject that the public needs to learn more about. Yeah, got it, dude. Got it. We all know what this is about. So they take 30 minutes of time to go through all these intros. What was interesting is Mr. Grothman. He mentioned reading Carl Jung’s flying saucers book, which is something I’ve read and I have notes about it in my books. Because Carl Jung like Jacque valet and all these other great UFO researchers have been trying to hammer it home. There’s a psychic element to this And, you know, you’re talking to the mouth breathing normies you got a bread crumb lemon, right? It’s too radical of an idea. And the simplified version of it, I think, is ghost hunting right? To this day if you ask people they believe in ghosts, though I’ve been half the people will say No way. That’s crazy. Well, I think the aliens are kind of like the ghost. As, as I think it was, John Keel wrote in the eighth tower, ultra Terrestrials, it’s all the same phenomenon just in different forms. Okay. Then Mr. Burchett, says, look, I think there’s this not and this is a paraphrase, he says, I think this is a nonpartisan type of meeting. And also there’s a cover up. I like that. It shouts out George Knapp and Jeremy Korbel, who sit in the front row, you see them the whole entire hearing. And that later, he shouts out Lesley Keane, who was the New York Times journalist who broke this whole thing in 2017. And these are all some of the biggest figures in the UFO Disclosure movement. You know, George Knapp, a legend broke the Bob Lazar story of basically area 51 During Marine Corps belt did a great Bob Lazar documentary recently around 2017. And he does a lot of UFO documentaries. Okay. So okay, yeah, it’s an A go around the whole room, all these congress people talking about, hey, why is the government? Who is them? Why is why is it that we are keeping the American people in the dark? Gee, I don’t know. I don’t know. Why are you doing this to yourself? Like things about how they claim to be given info. They claim that as long as the information being captured is not being shared with them. Like they’re being locked out of it. What they’re implying is that there’s a deep state. A UFO Deep State. Very possible, right? Then Mr. Musk Moscowitz. He says he calls out some interesting locations. I’m gonna play some clips on this show. I know you’ll love the clips. I’m gonna play some clips. Listen to these locations. He’s talking about checking out take a listen.
Speaker 3 7:34
Congress created the all domain resolution office in the NDAA of 2022. In its initial analysis, there are 171 uncharacterized UAP reports. And this is the words from the report that appear to have demonstrated unusual flight characteristics or performance capabilities. I believe more information is known about the 171 instances. It’s time for Congress to reinsert ourselves. I call on our military leaders and intelligence officials to release more information to the American people about UAPs. And to our military leaders, if there’s nothing to conceal, let Congress go to Wright Patterson Air Force Base, the Dugway proving ground or even grim lake in Nevada. We should have disclosure today. We should have disclosure tomorrow. The time has come.
Isaac Weishaupt 8:25
He called out Dugway Utah, okay. It’s a place where they do chemical testing. But people claim there is UFO technology or alien bodies there. It’s been a longtime local legend here in Utah, called area 52. I myself, tangentially have been involved with UFO researchers, I guess. I’ve actually been out to area 50 Will Dugway have been out there doing some UFO hunting with some friends didn’t catch nothing. If you go to Wikipedia, though, cite the Deseret News link. That doesn’t work by the way. But anyways, they called the Deseret News. Desert read, of course. We’ve talked about this before in my books. The desert RET is a Mormon reference. You’ll see it all throughout Utah stuff. There’s always Deseret companies and such to reference to magic. People don’t realize that the desert References a b but a B is the reference for magic going back to Freemasonry. Joseph Smith, all that stuff. And look, here’s the thing. I’ve been getting a lot of a lot. I got a lot of feathers ruffled on the sound of freedom show we did. I had a guest on here and he was blasting holes and all kinds of stuff. I don’t care what your religion is. All right. I don’t know which one’s the right one. So don’t get offended. I’ve had a lot of people get offended I got in Mormons get offended. I got Catholics get offended. Like I’m not trying to venue I really am not. I pick on all religions because ultimately the truth is none of us can prove that we are right. Okay. So sorry Mormons you’re getting picked on. You got a lot of a cult tendencies there. All right. doesn’t make you a bad person. I’m not saying Mormonism is the worst thing and you guys worship the devil. My best friend is Mormon. Okay. That’s fine. Okay, so the desert. You know, like I said, Utah, full of a cultist. The desert News reported the Dave rose and filled president of the Utah UFO hunters claimed above provided no proof for numerous UFOs have been stored. Sorry, here’s the quote he said numerous UFOs have been stored and reported in the area in and around Dugway. All the unknowns are seen in the area might be that our star visitors are keeping an eye on Dugway to Dugway is the new area 51 Probably the new military spaceport. And another name you hear is area 52. Now Funny enough, I actually met Dave the calm alien Dave actually met him one time when I was talking to some UFO people involved in the Utah you have hosting seemed like a really nice guy, by the way. So shout out alien Dave. I don’t think he listens to my show. In fact, back when I met him it was early early early in the in the blogging book writing podcasting world for me. Have I learned anything since then? Not really. It’s fine though. We’re gonna keep struggling through all right. Okay, so the Congress they introduced the three main witnesses Ryan Graves, David grish. David grocer, David favor, shoot Hang on. David flavor at David Griffin has to David’s on the panel here. Which is interesting when you think about King Solomon, and King David Right. King Solomon, of course contacting entities with his magical seal ring of Solomon. Okay. Is there a connection there? I don’t know. Depends on how deep on the conspiracy scale you go. So they introduce these three. Sure. Sounds good. And finally, we get around to questioning. They ask if you oppose or threats. Commander flavor says yes. And he clarifies it. He says he says yes, because the technology is so advanced. We can’t do anything about them if they decide to turn on us. I mean, that’s fair. Right? That’s a fair response. But in the conclusion, I’m going to wrap this up a why this is all very dangerous. Some more time passes by Mr. Burchett. asks about the tic tac. And he you know, these congress people, they’re so old. Okay. And he’s like, Yeah, tic tac not like the Tick Tock the Chinese Communist app. Okay, sure. I get it. I get it the Chinese a communist and I get the tiktoks price by and honest. Do you see Mitch McConnell? Frozen frozen like those birds in the sky? Totally normal behavior. These people are very old which is fine. You know? Sometimes with age comes wisdom sometimes. But you also have to wonder how sharp they are. These are the people telling us how to live these people who have no clue what a 20 3040 year old is going through in today’s society and economy and housing market you know you want to write minimum wage hasn’t gone up and 50 years anyway just saying they should put term limits on these congresspeople that’s all I’m saying. Okay, moving on. Try not to get too so boxy. All right, I want to it’s uh, you know, we’re, it’s, it’s a high tea Isaac day today. All right, you know, I just got the shot. I’m ready. My tee shot, ready to fight. So Burchett who, by the way, I think it was Mr. Burchett. I think he’s the congressperson that got in a lot of trouble for saying it was a wild stuff before I think he legalized roadkill. ESRI legalized eating roadkill once. And he said something real crappy about these kids were protesting at the Capitol building for school shooting. And he was just like, wow, criminals are gonna do what they do. We’re not doing nothing about this, you know, which is pretty cold blooded. But I get it because I’m also pro Second Amendment. It’s like, well, I don’t know. What do we do about this? What you do is you fix the mental health in this country, right? We have a real problem. Got. Anyway, I told you I’m staying off the soapbox. Let’s move on. So Burchett he asked David grush if anyone involved with all this UAP stuff has ever been hurt, okay. And gross is like Yes. Then he asked him, he says, Has anyone been murdered? Take a listen to this
Speaker 1 15:04
by fire. And actually, do you have any personal knowledge of people who’ve been harmed or injured in efforts to cover up or conceal these extraterrestrial technology? Yes. Personally, have you heard anyone been murdered? That you would that you know of? or have heard of? I guess
Speaker 4 15:22
I have to be careful asking that question. I directed people with that knowledge to the appropriate authorities.
Speaker 1 15:27
Maybe in a if we could get get in a confidential area of Skiff we can talk about that. But unfortunately, we were denied access to the skiff. And that’s very unfortunate in this scenario.
Isaac Weishaupt 15:43
Bruce pleads the fifth. You know what that means? It’s murder. That’s right. He pleads the fifth on murder. Had the UFOs murdered anybody have the aliens murdered named Buddy? Yeah, the catch a body’s apparently. You know, he says, he says, Well, we got to go into a skiff. Bro, what do you mean, you got to go into the skiff? You know about something? Or they’re putting on the illusion that something like that happened. All right. And it just seems like, here’s what’s frustrating about the whole hearing, it seems like Burchett and all these other guys. What they’re doing is they’re just going over all these claims that these guys have made on podcasts and interviews, and all that stuff. So you’re thinking, what’s new here? Well, the answer is nothing. Sorry, I haven’t issues this morning. Nothing. The significance here is that they’re going on record for this whole thing. This isn’t just for clicks or downloads or to sell lectures, they testify. Are they there testifying? They swear their testimony on a Bible before God Himself? Which that holds a lot of weight. Sure. Can people lie through that? Sure. Can you have a big smoke show of illusions? I’m sure, because they always subscribe to this greater good argument, but it holds a lot of wait. All right. So then some time goes by. Mr. Raskin. He’s got he was all set up. He had a bandana on, you know, he had his suit on but then he had his is gang gang affiliated. Bandana trying to get gang related to Congress. I guess. He asked Mr. Graves about these crafts. Take a listen to what Mr. Graves says these crafts look like see if you catch anything?
Speaker 5 17:40
Are there common characteristics to the UAPs that have been cited by different pilots? And can you describe what the convergence of descriptions is?
Speaker 6 17:49
Certainly, we were primarily seeing dark gray or black cubes inside of a clear sphere,
Unknown Speaker 17:54
I’m sorry, dark gray or black cubes?
Speaker 6 17:57
Yes, inside of a clear sphere where the apex or tips of the cube were touching the inside of that sphere. And that was primarily what was being reported when we were able to gain a visual tally of these objects that occurred over almost eight years, and as far as I know, is still occurring.
Isaac Weishaupt 18:11
That’s right, black cubes. Okay. Not only are they cubes, they are black cubes. This is a reference to Saturnian symbolism. That’s right, Saturn. Now, how does that play into the UAP thing? I don’t know. But you do see black cube UFOs you see it in? Well, you see black cube alien technology, I should say in Transformers. It’s the All Spark. I think it was in one of the Star Trek movies. Ai right. Kubrick’s technically last film project he was working on with Steven Spielberg, the you have the aliens are flying in a cube shaped UFO. I also think that an Arthur C Clarke’s Childhoods End, it appears don’t quote me on that. I could be very wrong about that. But it’s symbolism of Saturn, which you see oftentimes, in illuminate confirm occult symbolism. Now now there’s not a clear link as to why that would be here in this case. So I don’t really know it’s something we can hang our hat on say oh, it’s attorney and symbol but it does draw a lot of questions. And if you take the cube and you flatten it, you’ve got the star David to the six point and start now that star is what is on the ring of Solomon that he used to control demonic spirits. Entities if you will. Right, King Solomon, of course the father of King David. And you got to David’s on the panel, my God. Not enough to bang your desk on but it’s interesting, right? Mrs. Mrs. Luna, she said that corporations are basically keeping the public in the dark. So I like that I’ve a very, you know, I love, love my country. Capitalism is pretty good. You got to watch it man, you got to keep these corporations in check. Sometimes they get too much power look at BlackRock and Vanguard and State Street. They own every company that exists. All right. So of course, yes, the corporations are keeping America in the dark. Then Roush, David gross. He’s talking about advanced technology that is beyond government oversight. And he clarifies it with, you know, technicalities, but that’s basically what he tried to say. He says, Look, there’s alien technology, and the government doesn’t even know about all these things. They’re being the government is being kept in the dark. Now two. He calls out the Gang of Eight again, again, listen to my David gross shows, we talked about the Gang of Eight. He’s asked how they’re funded. He says, Well, they basically misappropriate the funds. They say it’s for this, but then they they’re paying for that. One technique is to overcharge on on Iran, he calls it Iran taking excess funds, and funneling it over to black programs. And this is the first I’d heard of I read that might be something new and unique to this congressional hearing. It apparently means independent research and development. And it’s called out as an allowable cost that allows companies to initiate and conduct research and development projects of potential interest to the DOD and is reimbursed through overhead cost rates. Make sense? Look, the US spending, and budget and bills and appropriations is a massive subject. It’s very confusing. So it’s very possible and complicated is very possible. They can take money from one. They call it colors of money, we take from one color money move to the other. I mean, that’s what he’s claiming is happening here. But it’s but but to debunk that a little bit. You think? I mean, couldn’t you just couldn’t you just use research and development monies and just apply to whatever research or development project you want? I don’t know. But he’s just saying that they misappropriated funds. I don’t know if that’s illegal. I’m assuming it is. I don’t know. So they talk about NASA, and Harvard, researching UAP. And we already know, back in 2016, I was reading a book called the dark path. And in there, there’s a few chapters about aliens and UFOs because it’s a very important subject that I’ve always been interested in. And we already know NASA about that alien life. They said they told you, they’re going to prove it by the year 2025. So of course, NASA is researching UAV. They asked all the juicy questions to David gross. Okay, where’s this stuff? When did it start? Who’s involved? He can’t answer any of it. He says, Oh, look, it’s top secret. You need a skiff. It’s like a secret compartmentalized room where only top secret people can go. Clearly the cameraman and the mouth breathers can all hear this information. Oh, okay. Which private corporations are involved? He can answer publicly. Is there active? An active government disinformation campaign can answer you know, the end up trying to dig out the answers to all the things he alluded to on the news nation interview. So if you’ve seen the news nation interview, you’ve got it already. You already know. That’s as far as you get to know. AOC she made an appearance. She asked about Boeing’s work with a red cube. Take a listen
Speaker 3 24:08
at Mr. Crush, you sat on the unidentified anomalous phenomenon task force created in the 2020 NDAA. Correct. Yes. There have been some things that that have been mentioned here during this hearing that I wanted to pick up on. Mr. Graves you mentioned specifically during the answers one of your questions. You name two Boeing contractors being engaged in an incident regarding this red cube about a football football field wide. I was wondering if you could speak a little bit about the interaction, or Mr. grush either of you the interactions between defense contractor companies and any UAP related programs or activities.
Speaker 6 24:46
So I’ll just say that the information about the contractor themselves were provided by a witness and I have no particular detail in that relationship. Mr. Gresh,
Speaker 4 24:56
the kind of general unclasp wave tops certainly the contractors you No are the metal vendors so to speak, the ones actually doing specific performance on government contracts.
Isaac Weishaupt 25:06
She said it was a red cube UFO the size of a football field. Sounds pretty scary, huh? In fact, I know a guy, one of my friends saw a giant, not a cube shaped UFO but the size of a football field of massive UFO. I believe him. Now, let’s see. And nobody says any specifics. grish says, Yes, it’s the defense contractors and they’re working with all this UAP stuff. AOC wanted to know what methods are being used to have these corporations contact the government agencies because that’s what they want. They want to channel the information. AOC is like, how help us out here. Tell me where to look. All right. And favor says if you know where to look and who to talk to you’re gonna get your answers to very X Files the answer. Alright. grush said he would give that info he says let’s go into the skiff. And I’ll make it happen baby. Me, you a skiff gonna make magic happen. So we’ll see right. We’re a little bit more. We’re only an hour and a half into this thing. All right. Mr. Biggs. He’s a guy from Phoenix. And he asked about the 97 Phoenix lights case. I was like, Oh, this is a good question. Do they know anything outside of the public? They don’t. Roush is asked about UFOs and bodies. You will vote let’s go to the skiff. Bodies. Let’s go to the skiff, bro. Then, Mr. Burlison, he asked my question, he asked a question I’ve wanted to know the answer to he says, how do these these your flows that come from another plant are so advanced in their technology, and they’re so evolved? And they’re so smart? How do these things get here? Being so sophisticated, and still somehow crashed like a lesson?
Speaker 4 27:13
And so with that being said, you know, the other statement that has been made? That was intriguing to me because and it’s intriguing because my my view has been that we are billions of light years away from any any other system. And the concept that an alien species is technologically advanced enough to travel billions of light years gets here and somehow is incompetent enough to not survive earth or crashes is is something that I find a little bit far fetched. And with that being said, you have mentioned that there’s interdimensional potential. Could you expound on that? Oh, yeah, to answer your first question. And you know, I’m here as a fact witness and expert, but I will give you a theoretical framework at least to work off to kind of expels crashes, regardless of your level of sentience right you know, planes crash cars crash and number of sorties, what however high a small percentage, you’re going to end and you know, mission failure for Well, as we say in the Air Force. And then in terms of multiday multidimensionality, that kind of thing. The framework that I’m familiar with, for example, is something called the holographic principle. Both it’s derives itself from general relativity and quantum mechanics. And that is, if you want to imagine 3d objects, such as yourself casting a shadow onto a 2d surface, that’s the holographic principle. So you can be projected quasi projected from higher dimensional space to lower dimensional it’s a scientific trope that you can actually cross literally, as far as I understand, but there’s probably guys are PhDs. We could probably argue about that. But you have not seen any documentation that that’s what’s occurring. Only your theoretical framework discussion. Okay.
Isaac Weishaupt 29:01
Okay. I mean, Chris gives a fair answer, okay. He gives a fair answer. He says that, you know, you heard what he said. He said, whatever your sentience level, there’s always crashes and accidents. Okay, I guess. Oh, but more interesting. He asked about interdimensional stuff, right. And gross gives him a taste. He’s like, let’s talk about the quantum aspect of a holographic principle. And he says, imagine a 3d object casting a shadow on a two dimensional surface. What he’s saying is that aliens come from higher dimensions, the fifth dimension. Okay, this has huge implications. And this is one of my irks will cover here soon in the conclusion about this whole thing. Because the implication here is that they are higher evolved. Entities if they From a higher dimension Well, what do you think they’re going to do with this? They’re going to convince us the public that we need to also ascend to a higher dimension. And Elon Musk is going to find a way to do that. He’s gonna say, Look, I got this neural link, Catherine, you’re gonna put it on your dumb brain. And we’re gonna, we’re gonna put you in a five d with the aliens. Where life is great. That’s what’s gonna happen. Gates showed up. He said, I didn’t know he was still a congressperson. I thought he got in trouble for what was he? What are they claiming he was doing like drafting kids across the border or something? I don’t know. I don’t, I don’t follow this stuff. Right. Gates said he had to fight to get access of to a photograph of a UAP that apparently was in his state. And he finally got to see it says nothing like he’s ever seen before. He said this is non human. He said the UAP was able to disarm all the pilots capabilities. There was four of them and a diamond formation. Kind of interesting. Then Miss mace. She references Roswell, which I thought was good. That was only mentioned in Roswell really, though, then later asked about the alien bodies group kind of confirms again that he heard about bodies can’t give more specifics. But he did say yes, there are nonhuman intelligence bodies. From what he’s heard, he hasn’t seen them. Now we’re almost done here. We’re already at the two hour mark of the briefing here or rather hearing I should say. Question is floated. Could the UAP basically be doing reconnaissance? Or are they looking for vulnerabilities? Everyone on the panel says yes, it’s possible like I come up with these even questions. That this is where it’s interesting because this is how the whole thing is starting to ramp up. He says, I don’t remember which Mr. Mr. ovals I think is the one who’s asking the questions. He says if they become hostile, would you be able to defend yourself? Everyone says no. So of course we’re wrapping up this whole hearing as a threat. The aliens are a threat to the country. And Mr. O will says look we’re gonna go into that skiff and if I’m denied this skift disclosure I’m an act and I’m going to enact some some act he calls off the sounds real serious. He’s like, No, this is gonna happen. So it sounds like they’re gonna get to the bottom of it in a skiff so we never get to hear the actual truth. Bert typical. And then last question, Bridgette asked if gross knows of anyone being injured doing reverse engineering. Can’t talk about it publicly. Okay. Cool. Great time everyone. So in conclusion, of course, this was wack. Of course it was. I’m exhausted. I’m exhausted with the UFO community. creaming their genes for these UFO congressional hearings, hyping it up everyone’s doing their live commentaries. Like something cool is gonna happen of course nothing’s cool is gonna happen we already know all the information. We already we listened to. We listen to Joe Rogan have commander Frey we’re on there seven years ago. We got way more information out of that than this. You don’t see these old timers they’re catching up. They don’t even know what a podcast is. No, no, wait a minute. This guy see and UFOs yet dickface we talked about seven years ago the whole country is run by a bunch of old timers and we’re being slowed down by this it’s no wonder nothing changes. The story broke in New York Times seven years ago, six years ago. I should just I should just watch Barbie instead. I should I literally she was one of the Barbie movie instead of watching this whole thing is two and a half hours only only the US Congress find a way to make aliens the most boring thing on the planet right? Quite a feat honestly. But you know, I guess it’s I guess the significance of it is it makes it official makes it official in the sense that sworn testimony they could go to prison if they’re lying. Anyone go on Joe Rogan to say anything they want with no penalty. Whereas this makes it official I guess. But it’s frustrating, right? What like why can’t we have a 10 hour discussion on this? The public and here we go One group says, Well, look, there’s interdimensional capabilities of quantum physics and aliens from higher dimensions. Can we take five minutes and just be like, can you tell me a little more about that? What makes you think that? I mean, come on. It’s so ridiculous. I mean, the the anyway. Anyway, honestly, though it I guess it’s a huge turning point in a way. I guess. It’s just bizarre. No, no official figures have decided to talk to these guys about any of this stuff yet. Till right now. So a lot of people say Well, was it misinformation? Was it a distraction? distraction from the Hunter Biden trial thing. That dude is going to prison, or Sinead O’Connor who died? I don’t know. I tend to think this is some kind of false slow red pill to the masses. Because look, not everyone listens to Joe Rogan. Not a lot of people just working their jobs and doing their daily life. They don’t they’re not really up on all this stuff. Yes, it takes six, seven years to get it into the minds of the masses that maybe these pilots saw something. Maybe this exists, because they did. Because for 80 years, they’ve been telling the public UFOs are crazy conspiracy people. So now they got to sort of undo all that. So yes, it’s gonna take years. And what I’m concerned about, though, I’m concerned about recall, we said it was the congressional House Oversight Subcommittee on national security that called this hearing. Aid. And the testimony came from an intelligence agent, to military members, to military pilots, to any of these people or organizations represent a non military industrial complex element. When you hear national security, does that ever make you feel comfortable and safe? If if we are getting true disclosure, there’s a million questions in my head, why it’s happening now? Why is happening this way? If the feds have known about aliens since the 1940s, which in my books, we talked about the Collins elite, going back to the 1940s. And of course, you got the Roswell incident. Of course, you’ve got the Trinity UFO crash that we talked about from 1945 and New Mexico. I interviewed the author Paolo Harris, her and Jacques Vallee, wrote a book about it. Surely they know more than this? Surely they do. Right? Why is it now being given to the public? If you watch the way they’re presenting it, they’re always pushing it with a national defense angle? Are these aliens dangerous? That’s how they wrapped up this thing. And are they dangerous? Maybe? I certainly don’t know. I subscribe to the interdimensional aliens or demons. Idea. Some of them might be angels, some of them might be demons. So yes, some of them could be dangerous. What I do know, okay, is that the military industrial complex and the federal government National Defense initiatives whether whether they’re doing this, honestly, they’re doing it for a benefit, because like, you need these things, right? I’m not saying let’s get rid of the military, of course, we need the military. We’re America. Everyone hates us. Everyone hates they wanted, they want to take the crown, and they can’t. So of course, we got to stay up above the other countries. But, you know, to a hammer, everything’s a nail.
And you got to question if these people involved are trying to gain power, wealth, even something as simple as you know, wealth in exchange for your well being your privacy. You know, look at the Patriot Act 911 happened, it was awful. You know, if you believe the whole the story. If you believe the official story of 911. You would say man, that’s terrible. We should do something about this. And what do they offer this it? Let’s covertly pass the Patriot Act so we can spy on you. And that’s what they’ve been doing. So we basically gave up our right to privacy for what for what to go with our and, and bomb the shit out of these people. Which, you know, I don’t know, maybe it’s fair, I don’t know. But there’s a fair there’s a decent argument for saying that. You’re just creating more generations of terrorists. By destroying these people’s homes and accidentally killing a bunch of kids that weren’t involved in this, there was a fair argument for that to say that it actually made a more dangerous environment in the future. And I don’t know what the answer is right. And I’m glad I don’t want to make those decisions. But it’s just frustrating. It’s like, oh, did you want help with your college loans? No one can afford a house here in America. Did you want help with that? That’s cute. How about stead we just fun another massive weapon system or a surveillance weapon system even better? It’s frustrating. Did you want health insurance? I mean, it just goes on and on. It just feels to me like and this is back on the soapbox to wrap this up. It just feels like we continuously fall for this bullshit warrior protector angle. And it burns us most of the time. I mean, if you want to talk about a deep state, I think AOC and I know people hate AOC. But she brought a Boeing. Right? That’s a defense contractor. That’s what David Gross is saying is like, hey, it’s the contractors. And that’s what framer even says like, you got to know who to talk to. It’s the contractors. That’s the deep state. You know, because AOC, she’s always concerned with corporate interest. And she brought it up today in this or yesterday in this hearing, she brought up Boeing. And that’s what Grisha has been saying. It’s like these defense contractors, they’re the ones keeping the information. They’re the ones doing the reverse engineering, they got the alien bodies. And apparently, that’s by design, and I guess you get real X Files, ie, because then the implication there is that some MJ 12 type folks, and the government must have set this up years ago. And, you know, this defense contractors, they love to report their private business, they’d rather report what they’re doing, necessarily. Anyway, to sum up, it seems to me in general, that what we’re doing now, is we’re definitely letting some military representation happen here. We’ll see where it goes. We’ll see if this ends up down the path where because how frustrating frustrating would it be if these congress people get in the skiff, and they hear all this stuff? And they come out and say, Look, we can’t tell anybody. But we got a real problem on our hands is real dangerous. I think what we need to do is read everyone’s email and text messages some more to solve this to make sure everything’s safe. Or, or something along those lines. I don’t know. We’ll see. We’ll see what happens. So there you go. I try to wrap this up. I don’t want you to go longer than two and a half hours. That was everything I saw on there. Hope you enjoyed it. And if you don’t know if you haven’t bought my books, go get the damn books, aliens UFOs. And they call it huge illusion. One and two. I narrated and both are on Audible. You can get them on Amazon. Or you can get a signed copy straight from this beautiful podcasting studio, aka my office. I will sign it and mail it right to you. The paperbacks go to gumroad.com backslash Isaac w. And until next time, stay WOKE
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