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On today’s episode of the Occult Symbolism and Pop Culture with Isaac Weishaupt podcast we discuss the symbolism of the new King Charles III painting! We’ll unpack the symbols you may have missed- as well as the background of the artist which proves he did bake symbolism into this painting that criticizes the Royal Family! Join me as we break down the symbolism of blood, magick, MKULTRA Project MONARCH, Nazis, Lizard shape shifting people and the royal family’s belief they are gods!

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The New King Charles the third painting was unveiled and everyone in the conspiracy community is losing their minds over the not so hidden symbolism. Today, we’ll unpack the symbols you may have missed, as well as the background of the artist which proves he did bake symbolism into this painting that criticizes the royal family. Join me as we break down the symbolism of blood magic MK Ultra Project Monarch Nazis, Twin Peaks and the lizard shapeshifting. royal families believe that they are gods. My name is Isaac wise up, and I’m your host of occult symbolism and pop culture. Now, today’s show, you know and shout out Dr. Anteater. You’re gonna hear my interview with Dr. aider soon we we we went down to Austin for the solar eclipse. And we made some time to record a nice little episode. So you know, Dr. anteater is and what he’s all about. As far as the occult stuff goes, and I’m going to drop that interview here soon. So stay subscribe to the show, folks. Now, let’s get right into this controversial painting. Controversial King Charles the third? The What do you got the head of the royal family over there in the UK? London, whatever, you know. Not London. What do you what would you call it? England, King of England. There you go. Now, the artist is the first thing we’re going to take a look at. The artists name is Jonathan yell. He is a he’s a British painter. Louise is a very famous artist. And he infamously had an unauthorized portrait of George Bush made up of cut up SmugMug images. And it was described as a satire on the assumed moral superiority of the extreme right in American politics. And its goes on later this article describes it. It was the first in a wider series depicting public figures understood to traded on their sexual morality, including Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sarah Palin, Silvio Berlusconi and British conservative activist Mary Whitehouse, which is interesting, right? You know, Schwarzenegger, he, I mean, he did get in trouble for stopping the nanny. And Sarah Palin wasn’t her underage daughter got pregnant. And back then she was running for vice president and they were really pushing abstinence only and of course, anti. You know, what, and all that stuff. So, you know, the guy has this sort of background as a I don’t know, I don’t have activist is the right turn, but he has. He’s critical of the conservatives. And he has done many paintings and portraits. Prince Philip, Queen Camilla, Tiger Woods. And that’s our paper. One was also, I guess, comprised of various smart images. Kevin Spacey, Cara del Levine and Dennis Hopper. He was actually commissioned by Dennis Hopper to do it. I guess there was only three people that ever commissioned the guy to do their own portrait before but I guess King Charles did too, though. Right? So King Charles Dennis Hopper. Andy Warhol, I think was another one and someone else. I don’t remember. Andy Warhol. Who was it? It doesn’t matter. But he also did a portrait of Tony Blair, right, the prime minister for a minute there during the the reign of Premier bush in America. And it was controversial because he depicted him wearing a poppy flower in his lapel. And the poppy is symbolic for the remembrance of how awful war is implying that Blair was a war monger, which was, you know, it was a hot topic back in the 2000s. Him and George Bush were part of the, the alliance against the, the, you know, Afghanistan, Iraq, all that stuff. Now, the independent.uk reported on this, and it seemed defensive of Tony Blair, I don’t know British politics. I barely know British culture. So I’m sure there’s a slant here. But it’s interesting. He must have felt safe for his first ever official portrait, Tony Blair agreed to be painted by Jonathan Yao, the son of a Conservative MP. Hardly a radical, so unlikely to mention the war. Mr. Blair had recently spent his final days as Prime Minister trying to ensure he would be remembered for something anything other than the disastrous invasion of Iraq. But he was wearing a poppy because the setting was around the time of Remembrance Sunday, and when the portrait was unveiled last week, it showed the red flower burning bright against the washed out colors of the suit, looking like a strong A strong comment on the war. Quote, I very slightly exaggerated it through color. So the artist who had been looking for a way to comment on Iraq. Now, Jonathan Yalla. His is Daddy is a conservative British politician. And it seemed like some people believed this was this means that he wouldn’t be liberal. But as you know, it seems that oftentimes, children take on the opposing forces of their parents. So if his parents if his dad’s conservative, then I mean, he could very well be a liberal, right? That’s how it goes oftentimes. So I say all that to say this, is their symbolism in this painting. Is there a, I don’t know, activist type angle here. Yes, you bet. This guy has a history of doing it, of making commentary through the paintings, which is kind of wild that they didn’t realize this, I don’t know, begs to be a larger ritual in public. Like, I don’t know, i That’s why I’m good. It’s like this guy’s kind of controversial in the sense city, isn’t afraid to sort of poke at his political beliefs and the subjects that he’s painting? It’s where do you would take that on, but hey, here we are. Let’s talk about the symbolism. Now, the history of the owl had four sittings, with King Charles going back to when he was just a prince. All right. But the first and the biggest sort of symbol that you will find is that of the butterfly, there’s a big old, red and black monarch butterfly about the land on his shoulder. And to cut through all the conspiracy noise, I’m gonna go straight to the artists webpage, and he describes it as follows. The butterfly approaching King Charles his shoulder in the portrait adds a layer of narrative depth, symbolizing both his known advocacy for environmental causes, and his personal transformation. The monarch butterfly is believed to have been named after an English King William of Orange, due to its distinctive color. And this migratory species is already one of the most affected by climate change, because of alterations in spring temperatures. A butterfly often the symbol of metamorphosis, and rebirth, and thus also parallels the Kings transition from Prince to monarch during the period the portrait was created. So there you go. I mean, that’s the official answer. It’s named after the monarchs and that’s what this guy is. And the BBC also added that this thought that the monarch butterfly was actually King Charles’s idea. Speaking to the BBC, the artists also revealed that it was Charles who suggested adding the butterfly. Yao apparently asked the king when schoolchildren when school children are looking at this and 200 years and they’re looking at the who’s who of the monarchs, what clues can you give them? According to yell? Charles’s response was, what about a butterfly landing on my shoulder? Okay, all right, fair enough. But now let’s put on our conspiracy tinfoil hats because that’s what we all came here for. All right. Is it because I mean, this is the big elephant in the room? Is it related to the MK Ultra mind control sub program, Project Monarch? Obviously after the monarch butterfly, Cathy O’Brien talked about this and transformation of America. I’m gonna read you from her book. Because she was a victim of all this right?

Mind Control is absolute. Under MK Ultra Project Monarch trauma based mind control, I lost control over my own freewill thoughts. I could not think to question reason or consciously comprehend. I could only do exactly what I was driven to do. Those who control my mind and ultimately, my actions claimed to be aliens, demons and gods. Now take note of that claim to be Gods, we’re gonna come back to that and the conclusion. But it was my experience that these perpetrators of New World Order controls were are bound by fully human confines despite their terror tactic, claims and illusions. The true laws of nature and the same laws of man do indeed apply to them. And later on, she says, Project Monarch was a mind control operation, which was recruiting multigenerational incest abused children, with multiple personality disorder for its genetic mind control studies. I was a prime candidate a chosen one. And that’s and the whole book lays out her story about how she got you know, passed around by I think it was like presidents. I haven’t read it in a long time. Like Bob Hope was in there and she goes to Disney. It’s a pretty wild story. But she stands by all these years later right now. And this is why in because as you know, I decode symbolism in the great Stanley Kubrick films such as Eyes Wide Shut, Clockwork Orange and the shining. And in the shining, I found years ago when I wrote Kubrick’s code, I found that there was a poster it says monarch in the dayroom Project Monarch, which, you know, Danny, I got through this whole theory about how Danny was abused. And there was some mind control and he definitely had multiple personality disorder right with Tony. He had this other alter ego of Tony and quick plug. I don’t know if you know, but I’m doing a presentation in Las Vegas on Saturday, June 22. Be there or be square. It’s gonna be me, Jay Dyer, and Jamie Hanshaw. Jamie Kennedy is not able to make it now. But that’s okay. Because it’s gonna be me Jay Dyer, Jamie Hansel. And I think Jays got another special guest. He’s lining up. And I’m going to be doing a presentation on the occult symbolism and messaging of Eyes Wide Shut, which actually fits right into today’s conversation. So be there. It’s my first appearance as a lecturer. And it might be my last because I don’t know if I’m gonna do it again. To be honest, a lot of anxiety raging through my emotional little body worried sleepless nights, I think, why am I doing this to myself? It’s because I want to meet you guys. Because we do a little Meet and Greet afterwards. I’m gonna I’m a grift you down? I’m a grifter down so good. I’m gonna sell you books and shirts. All baby, get ready. Bring your money, bring your ones. Anyway, I’ve been putting the links in the show notes and get tickets on Eventbrite. Jay, Jay Dyer created the page. Go search around. I’ll put the link in the show notes if I remember. But look for J. Dyer. Isaac, wise hop. You’ll find it now, but anyway, I’m already working on the Eyes Wide Shut presentation. And I do bring up the shining for a second. Because it’s a crucial part of the Stanley Kubrick story of him exposing the elites to us. So people say he was part of the elites? I don’t think so. I think he was exposing the elites. You know, homeboy left America and never went back. He was like, F Hollywood. I’m out of there. And he never came back. But all of this goes back to real world things. People think this is all conspiracy talk. No, there’s more to it. It goes back to Operation Paperclip, the Nazis, those Nazi scientists we scooped up and brought to America. We got some the Soviets got some others, like pokimane are trading them back and forth. Because the Nazi scientists were working on eugenics, mind control type programs. levens born is what they called it. And, you know, it was eugenics and it was trying to make this master race of Aryans. It was crazy talk. And we can’t ignore that the royal family were definitely about that Nazi life. They were and I would argue they still are allegedly. King Edward the third, very sympathetic to the Nazis. queen, Queen Elizabeth 1933. Got caught on film somehow released 100 years later, of her doing a Nazi salute in 2015. And to be fair to them, this was in the 30s before they started all the all the Holocaust stuff. But whatever, right? I don’t know, bad judgment call. Because I think Henry Ford also was about that life, you know, because there’s this very strong capitalist authoritarian thing that they really liked. There was Prince Philip’s sisters who married Nazis, that’s where the footage comes from Prince Philip marching around in goose stepping in a Nazi uniform, because one of his sisters who married a Nazi she died in a plane crash and 37. And he attended the funeral and that’s why he’s wearing that. Also, recently, Prince Harry, you know, dressed up as a Nazi for a birthday party. What kind of birthday party do you dress up for? Isn’t that insane? Because I thought it was a Halloween party because that would I mean, that would at least make some sense. I sure as hell wouldn’t do it, but she’s, and it’s like, bro, you’re in the royal family. You don’t think no one’s going to take a photo or notice what are you doing? Unless that’s really what they’re about and secret and they’re like, that’s okay. Now it’s Project Monarch real according to Cathy O’Brien it is. We actually can’t confirm it because there was over 100 sub programs in the MK Ultra CIA program. And the director of CIA I believe his name was Ed Helms infamously destroyed like all the document tation so the only things we know about MK Ultra is what was what remained. There was actually a lot I got buried. So who knows? Like we know they were dosing people with LSD and doing weird experimentation on people unknowingly, unwillingly kind of. So I mean, it’s not far beyond the scope of things. Let’s see what other symbolism we got the belt, Oh, this one’s fun. So the whole painting is red, as you’ve seen on the image of it, I’m sure. And the red, of course, makes me think of the great Twin Peaks. We’ve got the red curtains and the Twin Peaks, you’ve got the red room and Twin Peaks. And and I don’t want to go too deep into it. Because, as you know, on the Patreon, and the supporter feeds, I’m doing the Twin Peaks mega deep dive of every single episode. And I believe the audience who is listening to those is near the end of season two, so we don’t want to give away too much. But just know that there’s a red room. And on the floor of the Red Room is that iconic Twin Peaks pattern of the tessellating. white and dark brown, which looks like black floor. Okay. Very reminiscent of the free Masonic floors, the Moses pavement they call it and wouldn’t you know it? You know, this painting, of course, is full of red and you think, Oh, he’s in the red room. He’s trapped in the lodge with Dale Cooper. No, he looked at his belt, I zoomed in on my Instagram image, check that out at Isaac Weishaupt like and subscribe. On the belt. It has the same pattern as the Red Room for black but as black and red, of course, said a white because the whole painting is red, which I thought was interesting. I wonder if the artist is in the Twin Peaks. I don’t know. Another one and this one’s a stretch. This one’s a very, it’s already been debunked by myself. But I’m gonna throw it out there anyway, because I like to have fun. And you came here to have fun. All right, there’s a pin on his shoulder. Now, it is there actually, it’s actually British aviation wings. Okay, because I looked up the original image that this because Jonathan yell sat with controls, like four times, but then he also based the painting on some images. And I’ve seen the image that he based the painting on. So on the shoulder, he’s got these aviation wings, but to my conspiracy brain, I see what looks like a bee. And that would of course be interesting because a bee is the symbol for magic, occult ritual magic. All right. Now, I also looked it up because I wanted to make sure he earned his aviation wings. He was in the Navy. And sure enough, you know, he actually was in the military. And I looked at his page and the boats he served on the HMS my Nerva, the HMS Jupiter and the HMS Hermes. Could it be any more symbolic of a cult reference a call initiation? You know, my Nerva is the first degree of the Illuminati it’s a reference to the owl again with the Twin Peaks. The owl goddess Minerva, the goddess of wisdom, as seen at bohemian grove on the statue. Right because they have a Gnostic belief system. Jupiter is the conjunction planet the Saturn again with Twin Peaks. And Hermes is the, the, the God they spoke to, to get the laws of alchemy, again, a call initiation. Now let’s go into some more. We’re gonna go into detail here. This is the one that kind of holds the most weight with me. So we’re talking about blood symbolism of blood. Because this painting, that’s the first thing stands out it’s completely read the whole thing. Now officially again, we’ll go to Jonathan yells web page.

It says the vivid color of the glazes in the background echo the uniforms bright red tunic, not only resonating with the royal heritage found in many historical portraits, but also injecting a dynamic contemporary jolt into the genre with its uniformly powerful hue, providing a modern contrast contrast to more traditional depictions. And if you go on and research more you find officially is because it’s the red uniform of the Welsh guards. But red does symbolize blood. We can’t ignore that the US flag as you know, the red is for the bloodshed for freedom. And that’s the one argument you could have if if the artist Yao is trying to push a political statement or symbolism, I believe it’s that of blood. Is it saying that the royal family and and England their colonizers, you know, you hear that oftentimes is saying that he’s in hell, he’s burning in hell, because he’s an awful person. Is it saying that he’s the devil? Some people even would argue that it’s symbolized as the blood of Princess Diana that is on his hands. Because Princess Diana was murdered. Right? If you don’t know what I’m talking about, I’ve got an offer for you. Let me take you down grip rally. If you go to Illuminati watch.com Go to Start Here, sign up for my free email newsletter and the first email you’re gonna get is a download of a grand unified conspiracy theory. My first book when I first started this journey, was 12 years ago now. And I have an entire chapter about the unlawful killing documentary about Princess Diana. And after reviewing all of it, I mean, I think she was murdered. And that’s what people say is like the blood is on his hands. And some say, I like this one. Some say it’s a reference to something that called tampon gate in England. The British press published transcripts of a conversation between Prince Charles and Camilla because as you know, Prince Charles was married to Princess Diana, and I don’t know their affairs had. And Prince Charles is affair was with Camilla, who he’s married to now, right? Both of these. Both of these, Charles and Camilla were married during this phone call to other people in 1989, and he’s risen her up. He’s grizzly bear in her up and talking about when he dies. He wants to be reincarnated as her and trigger warning folks. Her tampon. That’s right. I’m gonna redo the transcript. Charles. Oh, God, I’ll just live inside your trousers or something. It would be much easier. Camilla laughing What are you going to turn into a pair of knickers. Oh, you’re going to come back as a pair of knickers. Charles, or God forbid a Tampax. Just my luck. Camilla. You are a complete idiot. Oh, what a wonderful idea. Charles. My luck to be chucked down a laboratory and go on and on forever swirling around on the top. Never going down. Camilla Oh, darling. Charles. Until the next one comes through. Camilla Oh, perhaps you could just come back as a box. Charles. What sort of box Camilla? A box of Tampax. So you could just keep going. That was that was a beautifully done pair of accents. I ad libbed for you guys there? No, who cares about all this? Right? Who cares? Because it reminds me of another iconic statement made by the royal family about reincarnation. Okay. And first off, isn’t the isn’t the Church of England in bed with the Royal royal family and the monarchs? Aren’t they supposed to be based upon Christian beliefs? They’re not supposed to believe in reincarnation, why they keep talking about is because it’s all a farce. It’s all an illusion. Right? Because when it comes down to it, they all are psychopathic. Luciferians. I think Prince Philip, the the guy goose stepping down the German streets, said in the event that I’m reading in the amount that I am reincarnated. I would like to return as a deadly virus to contribute something to solving overpopulation. That I think that this kind of and it’s crazy that people say this stuff in public, like they know they gotta put on a show for the public. And they continue they can’t they can’t help themselves. And of course, blood is something that continuously comes up in the occult. I should do a whole episode on this because I’m thinking about doing sort of occult symbol deep dives into certain topics and blood should be one of them. You have Marina Abramovic with their spirit cooking using pig’s blood, you have the term blue blood referring to the world elites like the Royals. You have Holy Blood holy grail theories about a bloodline of Christ and the Holy Grail supposedly being the chalice which is actually just the bloodline of Christ. You have Aleister Crowley who had the kegs of light which calls for blood. And interestingly enough, Aleister Crowley wrote about this in magic in Theory and Practice, he said, talk about the Holy Grail. This cup is said to be full of the blood of saints. That is, every saint or magician must give the last drop of his life’s blood to that cup. It is the original price paid for magic power. And if by magic power, we mean the true power, the assimilation of all force with the ultimate light, the true bridle of the rosy cross, then is that blood the offering of virginity, the sole sacrifice well pleasing to the master, the sacrifice whose only reward is the pain of job childbearing unto Him. So Oh, there he says it right there the blood is the original price paid for magic power and that’s what I think it’s all about finally, oh, and then Dr. ainger sent me on on Reddit apparently there they take the images of this painting and they invert it and put it together and it very clearly I’ll make a I’ll put this on the Instagram it very clearly looks to be a demonic entity like go with the Bob’s it looks like go with the Bob’s it really does. So I mean, maybe the artists put out would be pretty genius. But in conclusion, this is a very controversial royal family. You got Prince Harry claiming the Royals are racist. Meanwhile, like why don’t you walk around in a Nazi uniform for a birthday party like brought a birthday party just show up? What are you doing? And Haman, what’s her name all just we just want to be left alone. So here we are on every TV network and Podcast Network begging for privacy. Everywhere you turn hears us. Please leave us alone. I think South Park did a episode about them which is actually pretty funny. You got Prince William and his Kate Middleton who’s missing or not? We don’t know. You got Prince Andrew hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein stolen the kids. And now we got King Charles with the the the blood painting here. And the Brits are funny. They, they I know I got listeners over there. So shout out to you guys. They take this stuff real personal sometimes. I read in the New York Times it says indeed the last time a royal portraitist attempted a more abstract contemporary interpretation of their subject. In 1998 portrait of Queen Elizabeth a second by Justin Mortimer, which depicted the Queen against a neon yellow background with a splash of yellow bisecting her neck. It produced a similar public outcry, the Daily Mail accused the artists of cutting off the Queen’s head. It’s just different culture. You know what I mean? Like in America, we had that? Well, I guess, you know, that’s not fair. That’s not fair to the Brits. I’m sorry. Because in America, we had, what was that? Some comic she, the hell’s her name? Anyway, she, back when Trump was Premier, Premier Trump, he sheet depicted holding his severed head, which I thought was important. I don’t like Trump, but like, I thought that was important taste. I don’t know. Are you still a president? I just don’t respect the position, you know what I mean? And, and there was a lot of outcry about that. So I wasn’t gonna say that here in America, like we we roast our politicians, which we do. But I mean, there’s a lot of public outcry. So I take that statement back. Now, all of these royal monarchs, they believe that their blood, their blood lines, gives them the divine right to roll, meaning they get the authority from God, and it doesn’t matter what you have to say about it, peasant. And from there, we go to the great David Icke, and his theory about shape shifting lizard people. Right? He his, his whole theory is that the rules are shapeshifting lizard people stealing our loose. Now, do I subscribe to that? I don’t know. It gets us into simulation theory, Gnostic beliefs. And so that’s where I’m out. I’m not about that life.

But the fact Jay Dyer was on Twitter. I guess, David, I was in de dar we almost got a debate between the two because David Icke was very pushing his Gnostic ideas of a simulation world and, you know, jays Orthodox Christian, so he kind of was like, let’s talk about it. And I don’t know if it’s ever going to happen, but I hope it does. Now, the hybrid bloodlines. This is genetic union of humans with aliens, and this is where talk about Star seeds and star people comes from. And David Icke claims that this bloodline created humans to be slaves and this ties into a lot of Zechariah Sitchin planning to Guru type theories Ancient Aliens. And David Ickes books he in his lectures he talks about how there’s these nasties who come from the Draco constellation, Draco meaning dragon and he attributes a lot of us to the Zulu shaman credo Mutwa like I’m such an old school geek, I got a VHS of the credit he interviewed credit mood swats on a VHS I haven’t all this stuff. But credit Muhtar said that the Zulu tribe called them the Nomo and you know the normal is the dog on tribe they believe in the normal fish people. But there’s these nasties they use this this human energy for sustenance, primarily fear and they think children are the purest which ties us into a lot of the stuff why they’re always messing with the kids. Drake without with Drake, he’s been real quiet lately but they the idea is that they drink blood. And this is where all the legends of vampires comes from. They need blood to stay in our three dimensional world because they are dimensionally from another dimension and they need sustenance to stay in our world is the short version. And this goes back to you know, Bram Stoker’s Dracula Vlad the Impaler. Supposedly he dipped his bread in the blood of his enemies. His dad was Vlad Drakul, who was initiated into the Order of the Dragon from the Holy Roman Emperor and this lineage goes back to what they called the Brotherhood of the snake in ancient Egypt. So again, bloodlines going back for a much long, longer time than we know of. And Drac you a is the name of drag cools, son. And Queen Elizabeth the Second her grandmother was Queen Mary, aka Mary of tech, who actually descended from one of Dracula’s sisters. So, what I’m saying is that the royal family has a bloodline connection to Dracula, and this idea of drinking blood. And it could be even David Icke, shapeshifting lizard people theory, maybe. And of course, we got Elizabeth Bathory. She was bathing in blood, to try to stay youthful blood of children, you could even argue and now you got this painting of kin King Charles, soaking in blood, bathing and blood, standing in blood, whatever you want it to be here. And you know, this is all part of the thing. This is what all the all the supposedly bloodlines of the Illuminati, the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, the Windsors, which is the royal family. This is where the divine right to rule comes from. Because the big plan is global domination. And this goes back to Babylon. And they’re still doing it to this day. Now, it is interesting that King Charles had not too long ago revealed that he was fighting cancer. I don’t know what to think you asked me my opinion on this. I couldn’t give you on I don’t know. I don’t know what they are just thinking. But I do think that his past sort of activist esque sort of background implies that there is symbolism in this painting is isn’t just a straight up straightforward painting, and I think is that he might be a conspiracy theorist. That’s, that’s what I think about. So there you go. That’s the show. I appreciate you listening. If you liked the show, please subscribe to the show and the podcast app there. 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