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Isaac Weishaupt is a prominent author, researcher and host of the Occult Symbolism and Pop Culture podcast since 2014, where he explores the hidden meanings behind pop culture, conspiracies and esoteric philosophy. With a background in engineering and a deep interest in occult systems, Isaac bridges the gap between mainstream entertainment and the arcane by decoding the symbols, rituals and belief systems woven into films, music and celebrity culture. He’s written several books on Illuminati symbolism, occultism, secret societies and the paranormal. Drawing on a mix of research, intuition and cultural analysis, Isaac offers a critical yet accessible lens on the forces shaping the modern world from the shadows…

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[00:00:00] Speaker A: What if Diddy’s trial wasn’t about justice, but ritual theater? Today is an episode where I joined Greg Carwood over on the Higher side Chats to expose the hidden layers of celebrity control systems, MK Ultra manipulation, and the occult underbelly of Hollywood. From Cassie’s shocking testimony Freak off parties to Travis Scott’s Astroworld portal ritual to the sinister philosophies of the Dark Enlightenment. If you’re like today’s technocrats, this episode is going to dive deep into the satanic symbolism, power games and public psycho dramas shaping our reality. Buckle up, this one’s going places.

That’s right, today’s episode is a swap cast because my man Greg Carwood over at Higher side Chats give me permission to share our conversation about Diddy Travis Scott and the Dark Enlightenment from a conversation we had in September on his podcast.

If you’re on my supporter feeds, you’re even going to get the THC plus version of this of the show. That’s right, the one with the extra bonus content that his free feed Losers don’t get.

It’s about. I don’t know if he doesn’t call them losers because you know what? Greg’s not an idiot like I am.

But the full THC plus with the bonus content is about 2 and a half hours, so get comfortable. The free feed version is about an hour and a half and I thought this would be ideal since City will surely be back in the news cycles for his sentencing in October.

And I’ve got six appearances now on the great Higher side Chat. So be sure to check out my website for a post I made on all of my appearances I’ve made to date.

I’ve got it on my link tree if you go to all my links.com Isaac W is a a C2A double awesome Isaac W and you’ll find all my appearances including my my 15 minutes of fame on the History Channel. That’s right. So but yeah, and it’s not about me. It’s about Greg Carwood right now. You got to subscribe. Subscribe to Greg Carl too. He’s been knocking out bangers for as long as Joe Rogan has and he’s been more authentic. Dare I say he helped me back in the day around man, one of the he did. I did my first appearance ever on a podcast was the Great Freeman Fly on the Free Zone and then right after that Greg invited me onto Higher side Chats. This is around 2013 I believe, but man, he’s come a long way. Fresh ass studio banging YouTube channel. And I’ll link all those in the show notes as well. Specifically, I’ll link our YouTube conversation so you can watch it on his YouTube channel. Comments are ringing off the hook. Lots of conversation about this show. Okay, so yeah, check out the links in the show notes. Go subscribe to Higher side Chats. It’s one of the goated conspiracy podcasts of all time. I mean, maybe the goated Right? So without further delay, here it is, our conversation on the Higher side Chats.

[00:02:59] Speaker B: The planet’s puppet masters almost surely have a plan.

There’s clearly maybe something there beyond the realm of man.

And until we’ve thoroughly tested every last close chested view, I find the more we think we know, the less we really do.

Where would we be without thc?

Cause we know they’re lying to us. Just don’t know to what degree.

Where would we be without THC?

The IR Show Greg Carl Wood &.

[00:03:55] Speaker C: Co.

Hey, are you not entertained? From the Sunshine State, I’m Greg Carlwood and many people have grown up with dreams of living the high life as a film star in Hollywood or a famous musician buying into the seductive allure of the artistic archetype and the fame and fortune that comes with being anointed by the industry because for many years it’s been presented to us as pretty much the only real way to make it as any sort of entertainer. Yet the more we learn about that life, the less appealing it seems to be. And beneath the thin facade of material success and the fleeting rush of fame lies a darkness that few others will ever experience, where the very gatekeepers to the industry, the predatory agents and managers, entice young, naive talents to sign away their future wealth while at their most desperate and vulnerable. And the public is presented with a perpetual pipeline of sexually abused, mentally damaged and ruthlessly controlled celebrities who live like cows attached to a never ending milking machine by the teams around them. And when you see this darkness and its effect on those embedded in it, the seemingly wild claims that the entertainment industries in the modern era, and maybe all eras, are primarily culture creation operations, mind control projects and occult indoctrination rituals doesn’t seem nearly as wild as those claims did a few years ago.

And what used to seem like innocent artistic expression appears more like a vehicle for sophisticated subconscious manipulation and deep psycholog programming. Well, few researchers focus on these things with the level of commitment you get from today’s guest, Isaac Weishaupt. I’ve been a fan since I read his book Sacrifice Magic behind the Mic and did our first interview about it back in 2014.

He’s been on THC a total of five times previously over the years and become a digital friend. I enjoy writing co pilot with on our strange Path through conspiratorial commentary. Some of his other titles include A Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory, the Illuminati Ancient Aliens in Pop Culture, Kubrick’s Code, the Star Wars Conspiracy, Hidden Occult and Illuminati Symbolism of Aliens and the New Age the Dark Path Conspiracy Theories of Illuminati and Occult Symbolism and Pop Culture the New Age Alien Agenda and Satanic transhumanism Aliens UFOs in the occult Use your illusion 1. Aliens UFOs in the occult Use your Illusion 2. UAP disclosure Spiritual warfare and Manifesting Extraterrestrials through Entertainment. This guy knows how to load it up with the keywords. And he also has use your illusion Volume 2, Symbolism in Film, Manifesting Extraterrestrials and more. You also know him from his podcast Occult Symbolism and Pop Culture and breaking social norms. And you can find all that and more@illuminati watcher.com Here he is, the pop culture occult commentator, Satanic symbolism sleuth, and true Illuminati watcher. The man who knows the Plan. Isaac Weishop welcome back, Greg man.

[00:06:46] Speaker A: Thanks for having me back on and always with your glowing introductions. That’s great. It’s, it’s, it’s a pleasure to be back on this wonderful show. You were my, one of my earliest interviews back in the day and I’m, I’m super honored to get back here and be invited back multiple times. So it’s, it’s, it’s great to be back with old, old friends that have been around this game long enough that I trust who you are and your intentions and things because so I can’t say that for everybody in the conspiracy world. There’s a lot of wacky, kind of strange, psyoppy misinformation folks out there.

[00:07:18] Speaker C: Yes, a lot has happened in the 15 years that we’ve been in the game, but it is just the old nine to five for us now. And I’m psyched to be doing this again with a familiar face.

So it’s great to always, you know, look for a reason to have you back. And this one was the Diddy trial, I guess for me. I was looking at this stuff, it was heating up. They threw out a little red meat for us, but then it seemed like it fizzled out. And I don’t know what you think about it, but it felt like maybe it was just a limited hangout show trial to some degree, but you followed it a lot more closely. What’s your assessment? Was there anything really revealed that maybe someone who was watching more casually would have missed?

[00:07:58] Speaker A: Diddy’s has a long history of allegations and sort of adjacent conspiracy topics.

So when we saw this trial coming down, I think a lot of us thought, like, this is going to be a real moment of change in the world. We’re gonna. We’re gonna start holding these people accountable for their crimes. It seems like he got off the hook, basically. But if you followed the transcripts, because I was reading through the court documentation every single day for I think it was maybe four or five weeks, six weeks maybe, that the trial went on. It was interesting to me because it seemed on the surface there wasn’t much happening here, but if you read through what was being said, who was saying it, and some of the ideas being presented, it seemed to me what we had was a bit of a revelation of the method concept going on here, because a lot of the conspiracies about Diddy were more or less proven during this trial, and I think that is part of the agenda. But I ultimately think what they were trying to do is because. Because there’s a lot to go through. Maybe we should start with my observations in the trial, I guess, if that works for you. Sure. Diddy is facing life in prison. Right. And we all kind of thought he was going to get it. He was in the Southern District of New York, which has, like, you know, some kind of high 98% success rate. He was facing a sentence for racketeering, sex trafficking, those sorts of things.

Tenny Garagos, he said, I think it was 10 years. She said she’s Mark Garagos daughter. Mark Garagos, the famous attorney who did the Menendez brothers, Michael Jackson, Keith Rainier from the Nexium thing.

So Tenny was defending Diddy, and she says, is it a federal crime to love baby oil? And that, as funny as that is and how headline catching that is, that’s kind of where they took this. And that’s basically how they won. I mean, they. I say they won. They found him guilty of, like, two of the five counts. And I. His. His sentencing is going to be in October.

I’m guessing he’s going to be out. Right, Right. What was interesting leading up to all of this, the reason we thought we were going to get some serious dirt was because we had all these multiple lawsuits, like Lil Rod, who was Diddy’s producer for one of his recent albums and in that lawsuit, that was the most damning of all of them, Lil Rod was saying that Diddy was basically running an Epstein operation. He literally said that in the lawsuit. You can, you know, you can down and read it. And he was implying that he would do these sex parties and he would videotape it and use it as blackmail. Amongst a bunch of other allegations. Like how one time L. Rod said that he saw Diddy sort of COVID up a shooting by sort of. I don’t know if paying off the cops is the right term, but sort of like he had to in with the cops and was able to sort of quiet things down, alluding to, you know, some kind of connections that he had. And amongst other things, which we can come back to later, this idea of like Robin Greenhill and Lou Taylor and how they. They plug into all this, like all this stuff was listed out in the Little Rod document. And I thought, oh, wow, we’re going to court now. Like, this is going to be interesting. Right?

Including Lil Rod accused Cuba Gooding Jr. Of sexually assaulting him.

[00:11:22] Speaker C: Right, right.

[00:11:23] Speaker A: And a whole bunch of stuff. Right. Like crazy stuff. And. And we got exactly none of any of that discussed at all in this trial. But that’s not what he was on trial for, was the Little Rod thing. He was on trial for sex trafficking and racketeering, running his business as a criminal enterprise.

[00:11:40] Speaker C: Right. Specifically Casey or Cassie Ventura. And Jane. I don’t think we know who Jane is still.

[00:11:46] Speaker A: Right, right, right. Yeah. There was a. There was a handful of anonymous sort of Jane does that were. There. Um, there was several, you know, girlfriends. There were several people that worked with him.

And one thing you notice when with all. Almost all the people is they would talk about how terrible Diddy was and how abusive he was, but then in the next breath, they were sending him happy birthday cards and talking about how much they loved him. And it’s like a real crazy.

Like it just shows you the power of fame, you know, and. And how people. These people were susceptible. Some level of mind control, it seems like. Yeah. One of the persons even said that he had a. Like an alter ego. Like he. He would dissociate and, you know, become angry, which I don’t know how literal to take that. You know, my. My conspiracy brain goes to sort of MK Ultra type stuff. But it was said about. A lot of things were said about him, including LAPD Officer Israel Flores said that Diddy looked devilish.

At one point in the trial, he told I’ve got it in My notes somewhere, he told one of the, one of the people that worked with him how he was the devil. He told her that to her. And there was a lot going on here. So like, Cassie was the big, that was the big part of the show. And she was the first to take the stand. And it was supposed to be this sort of, you know, bombshell part of the trial. She was pregnant and they were like, oh, we got to hurry up and get her up on the stand because she’s about to deliver a baby. And I think that was all timed perfectly for, you know, for maximum sympathy towards Cassie. Right. And she was talking about how her, her interpretation of the events was that she signed all with Diddy. She had a nine record deal which they released, you know, one of them and never did anymore. So her job started to become a sort of sex slave and doing these freak off parties and how she, she was suing Diddy because she alleges that he basically forced her or coerced her, I should say, maybe into taking like just tons of drugs, this tusi drug and ketamine and like crazy amounts of drugs, ecstasy all the time.

And she incurred all these sort of medical issues from these freak offs, you know, UTIs and, and sores on her mouth. But then the, the, the defense, they laid out their argument which was that she was a voluntary party to this whole thing. And she, you know, it’s not, it’s not Diddy’s fault that she fell in love with him kind of thing. Which is kind of weird, right? Like, it sounds like domestic abuse stuff.

[00:14:19] Speaker C: Well, like you said, they have these text messages and stuff they can lean on to be like, where she says, oh, I can’t wait to have a freak off. And it’s like, yeah, the allure of I have to suck up to this guy even though maybe I’m mentally breaking my understanding is that, yeah, essentially like you said the defense was, look, he might be an.

He might have hit a chick or two. He’s not on trial for that. He might have liked orgies. Not a crime.

Specifically these crimes you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. And these text messages that say, oh, I can’t wait to see at the next freak off party. That’s reasonable doubt, you know, so.

[00:14:57] Speaker A: Right.

[00:14:58] Speaker C: Like, like all these situations, the offender, you know, they can claim, well, they’re just trying to get my money. You know, I got hundreds of millions of dollars. Everybody’s trying to get money. You liked it at first, suddenly you don’t like it. Well, what’s going on, you know, so I get that. But what I think is so interesting is that Maureen Comey, you know, she was the. The federal prosecutor for both the Diddy and the Epstein cases, and surprise, surprise, they both kind of went nowhere, and then she got fired by the doj. So I knew, I saw the headline, that she got fired, but she was fired July 17, and that’s two weeks after the Diddy trial ended. I don’t know if there’s anything significant about that. If. If there’s some reason you think that it might have resulted in her firing. To me, that’s more about the Trump stuff. Like, he’s going to be going after her father for the election stuff. He’s trying to distract from Epstein with the stupid election stuff. People are bored with the election interference story. Every election’s interfered with as far as I’m concerned. But, yeah, that’s just some of the stuff I thought was interesting. And I’m curious what you think about not only the fact that they get. They always have their person in place, right? Like, okay, we’re gonna do a show trial. They’re gonna contain it to just the, you know, the parameters in which we’ve set. But, like the same prosecutor for Diddy and Epstein, you gotta think that’s a red flag, right?

[00:16:20] Speaker A: I mean, there’s. This does feel like a sort of show trial because Maureen Comey, of course, the daughter of James Comey. And James Comey, we talk about election interference. Back in 2016, like a week before the election, he made this big to do about how the FBI was investigating Hillary Clinton’s email servers or whatever, when that was a big issue. That was the whole reason, you know, Trump was saying lock her up is because she had this illegal email server thing. Right? James Comey was one that was like, right before the elections, like, you know what she does, and we’re going to investigate her. And then later after the election, then they were like, okay, we found nothing. She’s fine. And it’s like, well, that sounds like election interference to me. So for Trump. For Trump, yeah. And September was it. Someone found a photo of James Comey on his Instagram not too long ago where he had these rocks on the beach. Have you seen this?

[00:17:15] Speaker C: Yeah. It said 8645, 86, 47 or. Yeah. Which is like, well, he’s 45 and 47. But yeah, so it’s like basically, kill 86 means to, like, it’s off the menu or kill it or whatever. Like, it seemed like a veiled threat. And the guys that had been head of the FBI. I think he understands coded language and reading between the lines and veiled threats.

[00:17:35] Speaker A: And that was. Someone found out that that was the 8. He posted it on the 8647th day after 9, 11, 2001.

Kind of weird stuff.

But yeah, Maureen Comey, she worked the Ghislaine trial and the belief is that this firing had nothing to do with her botching Diddy’s case.

Some I’ve read different theories that allegedly she is the one handing over all these files to the Wall Street Journal for Rupert Murdoch to run this sort of smear campaign against Trump. So I mean, this gets into like weird 5D chess Political territories that, that, I mean, it kind of. And it starts to get subjective where it’s like, well, what do you personally believe and who do you personally like and dislike? So it gets really messy. But it is very strange. I mean, she worked for the Southern District of New York, which was the, you know, like I said, it was like, known as like the elite of prosecuting attorneys for, for criminal cases, which supports my sort of idea that the trial wasn’t necessarily to get Diddy to go to prison. It was more about revealing a lot of these conspiracies that we’ve heard over the years. Where, which is where when you talk about Trump, this goes into that Jonathan AI guy, right? Yeah, yeah. So John Aie was a guy who was arrested back in 2018.

He was at the Trump Hotel in Miami shooting at cops. And when he got pulled in for questioning, the, the video interview with him, he says about how he was a sex slave for Diddy and forced to have sex with Cassie, which everyone was like, well, that’s insane.

But it kind of splashed a little bit on the tabloidy news, right? And by the way, he’s still awaiting trial seven years later, which is crazy.

[00:19:20] Speaker C: But I wanted to just jump in now that you mentioned him, because I looked into this guy a lot because I was just curious at the time, how does this police interview leak? We never see police interviews leak. And this one has like the juiciest stuff ever. And it just seemed like it was set up that way. But I was looking into this yesterday.

[00:19:38] Speaker D: Getting ready for this interview, and News.

[00:19:41] Speaker C: Nation actually interviewed John Audie recently from jail and he basically just said the same stuff but with a few new details. Diddy called the male stripper service that he worked for and then paid him 800 extra to take it into drug.

[00:19:57] Speaker D: Fueled sex with Cassie while Diddy whacked.

[00:20:01] Speaker C: Off in the Corner happened about 15 times. One time Cassie passed out. So Adi decided to secretly record the session for his own protection in case she didn’t wake up. He felt like his life was in jeopardy.

[00:20:14] Speaker D: So he told Diddy about the secret.

[00:20:15] Speaker C: Recordings and settled with Diddy for 5 million. News Nation found no physical proof of this, but the dates do line up with Audi’s purchase of, quote, a significant amount of Florida real estate. In his interview with News Nation, Audi said his mental health is improving. Then this is the quote, basically the day the incident happened at Trump’s Miami hotel. I had taken medication.

I think I was bipolar, but I wasn’t sure and I had an episode and basically I’ve been taking my medication now every day and I’ve been stable. I’ve had no issues in jail, I have no bad incidental behavior in jail. And I’m feeling ready to come out in society and be a protect productive member once again.

I think he’s still got some delusions if he thinks he’ll ever be free again because he’s being charged with felony attempts to murder law enforcement officers, armed burglary and armed grand theft. There’s also an episode of Jesse Webster’s Law and Crime where he says Cassie confirmed Adi was one of the sex workers during the trial. So to have this validated, I mean, even just tangentially, it’s like, yeah, clearly this guy’s not making it up. But we know a lot about MK Ultra and the way they mentally these people up and the damage that gets done and, and for him to say like, the day I did this, I took some medication. Where’d you get that medication? What was the medication? Was it prescribed by a doctor? Which doctor? Was it your psychiatrist? Who else is on his client list? You know, all these questions that should unravel. But yeah, I just thought that little bit of added context was interesting because it is one of the most provocative tangents of the whole Diddy saga.

[00:21:56] Speaker A: And it holds more weight now that Cat, you know, Cassie testified on the stand that Jonathan Adi was definitely at the freak offs and even filmed it. Okay, good. Like that sort of confirms the story, you know, because why would you say that under oath? But yeah, when he was arrested at Trump Tower, he was saying all kinds of crazy stuff about Trump and Diddy and stuff like how did he was gay with Rick Ross and DJ Khaled and how they do satanic rituals. And even he even talked about CIA, MK Ultra stuff, which is interesting now that you’re telling me that he’s said he was on a prescription drug. And he’s, you know, sort of had mental clarity now or whatever. But he. And. And he implied Bohemian Grove stuff, blood sacrifice, messing with kids and all kinds of things. And. But it’s really weird because the actual document of his arrest, he says all kinds of stuff that’s. That’s sort of contradictory. He says, Trump is a traitor. Trump is Hitler. But then during the interview, he talks about how Trump used to belong to the Illuminati, but now he’s not, and they’re trying to assassinate him, which was ironic because, like, later there was these alleged assassination attempts, which I have my doubts about, but, you know, I’m a conspiracy guy, so I have doubts about everything.

Another thing interesting Adi said was that Diddy was a member of the Boule. Right, right. The. The supposed African American branch of the illuminati that. That LeBron James has tattooed on his chest.

And I don’t know, like, this. This guy could. He could just be, you know, having a mental break. He. He very well could be. But he. During that interview at the police in 2018, he talked about Mark Garagos, which, you know, is Tenny Garos’s father, and how they drugged Michael Jackson and. And basically killed him for the royalties on the records. So it’s just so strange. I don’t know how to make heads or tails of it. He. He doesn’t seem to be a reliable sort of witness, but he does sort of tell the truth with a lot of things. So I’m not really sure how to. What to make of all that, because he. He says in one breath he’s a Trump supporter, then the next breath he’s calling him Hitler.

It’s really. It’s really kind of out there. But the point remains is that there’s some. There’s some grain of truth about what Jonathan Audi said, which makes you think, well, maybe we should listen to more about what he has to say, you know, and it depends how far you want to take that.

But one of the other things. Go ahead, sir.

[00:24:28] Speaker C: Oh, I just like that the whole situation, the whole dust up, got people to look under the rug of all these speculations. It made it seem a little more legitimized. Even if we don’t have a conviction, I guess we have a kind of a light conviction. But just like, why did he have a teenage Justin Bieber over for a secret recording session and then buy him a car after? Why were Diddy and Ellen such good friends? Why is Ellen’s TV show set Epstein’s Temple. You know, the. You can really draw a circle around all these people. And then there’s that video we talked about last time where Diddy had an adopted little white girl who looked really scared and he’s like, hugging on her and stuff. And like, why are you adopting her? To help her? Why don’t you just, like, help her family?

It was super strange, but you can. You can draw a line around all these freaks.

[00:25:25] Speaker A: Yeah. We didn’t get any clear proof of any of the sort of more wild accusations that are going around that seem to be, you know, holding some weight. One of the things, because as you know. Right. You talked about our. Our first interview we did about my hip hop conspiracy book, Sacrifice Magic behind the Mic. We got more confirmation. So Jonathan Audi talked about how there’s this sort of hip hop police connection and how they use hip hop as a way to traffic drugs for, you know, the intelligence agencies or whatever through private jets. And this is definitely a thing. Right? There was. There was a. That whole movie about Barry Seal with, you know, Tom Cruise. That whole movie was about that idea. There’s the Clinton scandals about this kind of thing.

But in the rap community, lots of these rappers have private jets. You know, Jay z does juice. Wrld had. When he died, he had 70 pounds of marijuana on his private jet. I mean, that’s 70 pounds of marijuana. Like, he wasn’t just smoking that. That was.

[00:26:28] Speaker C: Right.

[00:26:28] Speaker A: That was trafficking.

And what’s interesting is that NBA Young Boy, who’s like a newer rapper, the younger people love him, he got arrested for trafficking cough syrup. It was funny because when I did, I was covering the Diddy trial on my Breaking Social Norms podcast, and I talked about NBA Youngboy when we talked about Jonathan Otti. And I said how I think NBA Youngboy must be a fed or an informant or something, because he’s got a massive rap sheet full of felonies. Then he gets arrested for this drug ring of basically writing phony prescriptions for cough syrup. And out of all that, he ends up with a little bit of probation.

And, you know, he’s got years of charges of firearms, drug offenses, assaults, robbery, kidnapping, attempted murder. And this guy is just like, basically on house arrest. And I say that. Then the next week, NBA Boy, NBA Young Boy got arrested again for gun charges again.

And he was in doing a prison sentence, I don’t know how long, a year or something like that. And Trump pardoned him that next week, which kind of confirmed my suspicions. I’m like, this guy’s got to be a fed. Or an informant or something. Now, people online claimed that the reason he got a pardon was because Trump was selling a crypto coin, and supposedly NBA youngboy’s mother bought a coin for some exorbitant amount of money. And when you have the coin, that gives you access to Donald Trump, allegedly, as they say, and that’s why it happened. I. I don’t. I don’t know. I can’t prove any of that, but that’s what they say.

[00:28:05] Speaker C: Oh, that is an interesting little saga, for sure. You wanted to bring it back to Robin Greenhill and this Taylor fella, and I wanted to let you do that. So there’s a lot of stuff. I hope we can. We can. There’s a Travis Scott update. There’s all kinds of interesting stuff. But tell us a little bit more about Robin Greenhill and. And Taylor here.

[00:28:24] Speaker A: Yeah, so. So the. The. The quick version. So the. On that little rod document, he calls out Robin Greenhill, which was Diddy’s financial manager. Also, Lou Taylor was the business partner at TriStar Sports. So Robin Greenhill and Lou Taylor’s name, they come up a lot. They came up a lot in the free Britney situation, because I guess that was. They were the ones that coordinated the conservatorship.

And in fact, Britney Spears even had said something on Instagram about Lou Taylor and Robin Greenhill trying to kill her and how she was going to sue TriStar for it. Yeah, the little rod called out Robin Greenhill for allegedly sending money over to these sex workers that Diddy would hire from. Which, by the way, also came from the male sex workers. Came from Gigolos, the show on Showtime, which, I mean, that’s what I’m saying. A lot of this stuff, like, there was nothing, like, super obvious, but I think if you start unpacking little pieces of it, you can see there’s weird things going on. Like with this whole Gigolos thing, it’s. Cowboys for Angels was the name of the. What do you call it? Like, a male prostitution thing. And then Armani. So TMZ posted about this when it dropped, because I. I had watched the show Gigolos on Showtime or. Yeah, Showtime. And Vin Armani was one of the gigolos. And Vin Armani is now a.

I don’t know. I don’t. I don’t want to call him a conspiracy theorist, but he talks a lot about conspiracy, spirituality and crypto on Twitter.

[00:29:51] Speaker C: The Holy Trinity.

[00:29:52] Speaker A: Yeah, the Holy Trinity. And he was pictured on the TMZ thing. So I was like, wait, are they saying Vin Armani was one of the dudes that was showing up to these parties. I. I don’t know, but one of the gigolos, Ash, he. He got. He’s doing 20 in prison for assault or murder. I should say murder. One of his clients. There was a documentary about it. But the whole Gigolos thing is also kind of strange, which you can’t.

And this is where things also get weird. Right? Let’s. Let’s talk about the gigolos for a second, because the. One of the Jane does who testified said that a guy named Don came over from. From the gigolo show. And I. I looked that up. Google AI tells me that Don is the name for Garen James, who’s the owner and founder of Gigolos. I can’t prove that. That’s just what Google AI said with no link for me to click to prove that. I don’t know where it came from. That same Jane Doe said that the parties weren’t called freak offs for her. They were called hotel nights. And if you recall, I believe we talked about this the last time I was on your show.

There was this woman named Candy Michelle Johnson. Yeah. Who wrote a book called the Adrenochrome Witch. And she was making wild claims about Diddy back then, before the. Like. Like John Adi. Back before anyone sort of thought it was real. Yeah. And she had a. She had a.

She had a bunch of books that she had written.

And I say books. Some of them were manuscripts, some of them were scripts, some of them were like short stories. One of them was called Hot Nights with Cassie or Hotel Nights with Cassie, which now that I see a testimony that says, did he also call these things hotel nights? I’m like, dude, this, this is this Candy Michelle Johnson. She was for sure. She claims she worked for Diddy. Yeah. She must have been working for Diddy. How does she know all this beforehand? She also had an image on her Instagram of baby oil back before anyone talked about this.

So. So there’s something weird with that.

I think I lost my. We’re talking about Robin. Robin Greenhill. Right. Greenhill was alleged to have been putting surveillance equipment into Britney’s phones and her houses and stuff, which makes me wonder about Diddy because he had all these surveillance cameras that no one really seemed to talk about during the trial.

And she was also part of getting the medications administered to Brittany. That takes me into some of the stuff like you mentioned. John Ottie said he was having mental issues with. With prescription drugs and stuff. Well, Kanye west also was Talking about how he was on lithium and had all these issues. And then Jamie Foxx also said the same thing. Jamie Foxx was the cameraman for all of Diddy’s parties from the 90s.

Right.

So I don’t know how the mechanics work. I’m not in the inner circle of that. But there’s something strange with all of that. And then Lou Taylor is, she’s also managing the Kardashians and Kylie Jenner and she was part of the whole stink about Kylie Jenner becoming a quote unquote self made billionaire, which turned out to not really be true. And during the trial there was an article on media takeout that said Diddy also doesn’t have the money. That, because they say did. He’s like the, I don’t know, second wealthiest guy in hip hop. He’s a billionaire. And they said, well, that’s not true either. So it just makes you wonder, like, do these people really have any money or is everything just an illusion, you know?

[00:33:11] Speaker C: Right. You kind of need to hold it back from them to have the leverage. Because I think that’s the big game is that these people are leveraged by their teams. You know, whether it’s the Harley Pasternak trainer guy or the manager or the agent or all of them working together, all these people are highly controlled and compromised. Like I said in the intro, they really are milked like cash cows. You get them young and you say, hey, we can make you a star, but you’re going to have to sign these agreements where we are going to end up getting the best deal out of this. And then we want to milk you for as much as we possibly can. How many times do we see these tours and these artists are like checking out for exhaustion. You think they’re doing this because they want to. The average person sees that and like, oh, I’d love to have a lifestyle like that. Going up on stage at the arena and, you know, having the crowd cheer my name. Not really. It probably gets old very quickly and they work harder than a lot of regular nine to five people. And it’s because they’re forced to, because they are the cash cow for the teams. And I just, you know, now that we’re getting more into this, the stuff we know now that we might not have known when you wrote that first book, it is way more about drugs and, and just controlling their prescriptions and getting them on things and just, why don’t you go see our psychiatrist we have on staff. They’ll, they’ll hook you up you know, we’ll help you deal with your fatigue and your anxiety.

[00:34:35] Speaker A: Yeah. It feels like it’s coordinated in a way to keep people, keep the, the hamster on the wheel. Right. To sort of keep making money for these people. So it is kind of sad, right?

[00:34:45] Speaker C: Yeah. And you can’t let them have all that money and they don’t really have it. A lot of times we just see them in music videos or we see them with the chains and the this. Like they have access to nice things that they can wear and be presented with and nice cars on lease. But do you have the cold hard cash to quit the industry? That’s where I think you’re right. Like, they don’t have as much as they say or they would just live their life.

[00:35:09] Speaker A: My wife was telling me she saw a video where they were saying about how it works on the inside, that these celebrities, artists and such, they’ll be wearing, you know, luxury branded stuff and have these chains from particular, you know, jewelry makers. But all of that stuff is gifted to them. Right. And, and it’s not money that they’re getting. They’re just getting like, these lavish things. And, and we see this and we think they’re buying these things, and that’s not really the case. So it does raise a lot of questions, like, how much money are these people actually making? I don’t know. I think there’s a lot, like, everyone knows, like, there’s a lot more going on behind the scenes of entertainment than, Than what we know. The one interesting and kind of funny thing that I found that I wanted to bring up before we move on. I know you want to move on to the other topics.

John Ottie, he claimed that Donald Trump had performance issues because he’s on Propecia. And what I thought was interesting because there’s all these connections with Trump and Diddy. Right. Trump was up there defending Diddy and he. There’s all these footage, you know, footage and photos of him hanging out with Diddy forever and even considered pardoning him. Don’t ask me how that works, because just a few years ago, I think Diddy was endorsing Hillary Clinton or something like that, but whatever. During the trial, there was an article in TMZ about a new lawsuit against Diddy. And the woman claimed that Diddy’s penis was the size and shape of a Tootsie Roll. Right? God. And, and I, and I, I can’t help but see these. All these, like, abusive men have weird, like, penis issues like Hitler supposedly did. Harvey Weinstein did Epstein did and now Diddy. Yeah. Right. All these guys have. Have these strange. And I don’t know, that’s.

[00:36:48] Speaker C: Which one had the egg? Sh.

Was that Epson?

Okay. Yeah. Egg shaped.

[00:36:53] Speaker D: Okay.

[00:36:54] Speaker A: It just makes me wonder about, like, the psychology of these people. Like, maybe they’re. They’re not able to find a healthy way of channeling, you know, the frustrations of that issue.

[00:37:04] Speaker C: Right.

[00:37:04] Speaker A: And. And now we’ve all got to sit back and watch them do horrific things to people. I. I don’t know. It.

[00:37:09] Speaker C: Wouldn’t it be interesting? I mean, obviously, we know there’s a big network that goes back further than any one person, but just the idea that all these people, all this fallout is just because somebody had a dick issue. And while normal people are out there just getting laid, having fun in their college days, these people are instead toiling away. How can I make enough money that I can make good on all the stuff I missed out? And no one’s going to be able to care or say anything about my weird dick.

[00:37:38] Speaker A: Right. That’s what. That’s what it seems like. And, and, you know, that’s just. That’s just a hot take I wanted to throw in there.

Yeah.

[00:37:44] Speaker C: I mean, it is interesting. And on the subject of Trump, like, I definitely am not in this, like, tit for tat. Oh, is it the red team or blue team? They’re all dirty. Who cares? I do think it’s interesting, though, to watch the Epstein story because it was always so lumped in with the Clintons and the Democratic establishment, and now the whole focus has shifted. Trump is the one client of Epstein’s. Like, it’s basically just so weird. I think, you know, the, The. The whole thing with the modeling, it does go back very far, and it is a strange relationship. And I’m on board with the fact that they’re probably both on that plane and both guilty of some unsavory stuff when it comes to, you know, Clinton and Trump. But I found out a little bit more about the claims of his first wife recently. I just want to throw this out there. I’m sure it’s old news and people know, but she said under oath. I, I believe this was during. Maybe not under oath, but during their divorce proceedings in court.

She said that he raped her. And I knew this came up in the movie the Apprentice that they made, you know, a little while ago. And obviously that’s a huge claim. And then it’s like, well, you can’t rape your wife. You know, people say stuff like that. Well, the Details of the story is that apparently he got. I say this because you mentioned the alopecia thing or the propecia thing, but he got a scalp reduction surgery to try to close the bald spot. You know, I know about bald issues and how it can get in your head. You do some desperate things, I’m sure. I just wear hats. You know, it’s a lot easier. But he did a scalp reduction surgery to try to close the bald spot, and it was a doctor that she recommended, and apparently it was very, very painful. So he comes home, and he’s in all this pain, and he’s like, you stupid. You’re the one who told me to go to this guy. And he’s. And so then it escalated into a. A rape scenario, and he pulled out a clump of her hair and was like, do you like that? Because that’s how. That’s how I feel right now. And I was like, wow, that is insanely brutal. And then apparently, she fell down the stairs and died, and no one really knows what happened. And she’s buried on his golf course.

Oh, wow.

[00:39:45] Speaker A: Yeah. I was gonna ask, is this the one that’s buried on the golf course?

[00:39:48] Speaker C: Yeah.

[00:39:49] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. I never heard that before. Yeah. It makes you wonder if, like, all this psychosis is just ego issues, you know, and that would make sense, because these people that are this drawn to. To power and. And wealth, it’s. I. I feel like there’s, like, some demons in there, right?

[00:40:06] Speaker C: Yeah. It’s either the dick or the hairline. Maybe both. Luckily, I only got one problem, but let’s. Let’s move on to the. The update on Travis Scott, because this leads us into a whole rabbit hole that I was so interested in, because it’s basically like a pizza gate kind of a loop, but nobody talks about it. Everybody knows Pizzagate. This is like, almost the same thing involving strange art, involving a woman who’s basically like an Abramovich clone, like an archetype of the old witchy lady who’s involved in art. And. And anyway, so this was basically two interviews ago we did in 2021, when Travis Scott had the astroworld ritual thing and the. The whole stampeding of the crowd. And since then, there’s been a Netflix documentary on the situation. And my understanding there is that based on what I saw you cover, your analysis is that it seems like they’re trying to peg it all on Live Nation and do a little damage control for him. But there’s a lot more to this. This thing and his Apple contract And talk, talk to us a little bit about the Travis Scott updates, the Astroworld updates.

[00:41:17] Speaker A: So, so Travis Scott is, he’s a guy I’ve been covering for since I, I don’t know when he, when he first came out. He’s a fine enough rapper. Like, I, I like his music well enough. I’m not like a huge fan. I’m also not like one of these guys who thinks he’s overrated. Like, I think he’s pretty good. I actually like his music. But he’s always had strange, you know, some people would call it artistic stuff in his videos. I would call it occult stuff. Like, like the one he’s doing the grand hailing sign of distress of Freemasonry while he’s wearing a shirt with an inverted pentagram that’s on fire.

There’s a lot of like, alchemy symbolism that he puts in his videos with the, the black bird and all kinds of crazy stuff. So when he was doing the Super Bowl, I was like, oh, this is going to be good, right? And then 2021, of course we have the concert, which was just, I mean, just a field day for me with the satanic symbolism as we, as we talked about. Oh, I should also mention Lou Taylor manages Travis Scott too, by the way. Of course.

[00:42:17] Speaker D: Of course.

[00:42:18] Speaker A: So there, there was a Netflix documentary that came out recently and there were some interesting things that I found on there where the photographer for Live Nation, they told her they wanted her to go do photography at the AstroWorld concert, right? And they said they wanted photos showing how crazy the fans were. And, and she wanted, they wanted photos of the fans rushing the gates and all this stuff because they wanted to sort of, you know, promote things, the concerts and such. It was interesting because the, the, that’s exactly what happened in AstroWorld. They, they charged the gates and broke them down. And that’s one of the claims about why this thing went wrong is because there was too many people there.

And anyway, they broke down the gates and like they were letting people in and didn’t have tickets apparently.

And it’s almost like, what if that was programmed? What if that was done on purpose to kind of like the Beatles, right? There’s this Beatles propaganda of them coming to America and these, these girls screaming at the airport and screaming at the Ed Solomon show, when the conspiracy is that the, the manager for the Beatles was hiring, hiring these girls to scream and act like they knew who the Beatles were. Kind of like the idea of buying a, you know, Russian butt bot farm for social media. Now that’s kind of our equivalent today. Yeah. To drive likes and comments and stuff that aren’t real.

But that, but that’s what made me think of it. And it just go points to another idea of like the entertainment industry having some kind of.

Some kind of manipulation involved, some kind of deception on some level. And his concerts over the years, he’s. He’s incited a lot of sort of violent behaviors as we. I think we talked about last time. But during the. I didn’t realize this, but during the astral concert of 21, his first song that he came out to was Escape Plan. And because they played a clip and it. Then it dawned on me and hit me the lyrics, it. It talks about opening up the gates at the very beginning of the song.

[00:44:18] Speaker B: And.

[00:44:18] Speaker A: And that’s what the whole ritual of the stage was. It was like this, this portal opening up through the energies of the crowd and the portal is to hell. And that’s supported by a variety of symbolism. And the most damning is the frickin shirt. Travis Scott War showed a guy in blue, like a stick figure in blue going through a portal and coming out red with horns. Right. And then people point to like the dove on fire coming out of this. This mountain that was on the stage. People say there was all this crazy frequency music happening that was making people feel uneasy before the show because. Because there was two stages and Travis Scott, his performance at the mountain was the only performance to happen at that stage. So as the documentary points out, all the other acts were done at this other stage. And then when they were like okay, it’s time for Travis Scott, everybody had to migrate over to this new stage with the mountain. And that’s where the. As they. They indicated the documentary, that’s where the problems started is because people. Too many people funneled into one side of the. The stage.

But anyways, what made me think of was like okay, so they couldn’t. They had to sort of consecrate this mountain stage and it could only be used for Travis Scott like a ritual that this is the. Had its sole purpose. Like it just seems kind of weird to me also the people that chose the left hand Path, the left hand of the stage were the ones that. That died by the way. Yeah. Which I thought was weird when it comes to like left hand path occultism and things like this.

But what, what happened in 2023 prior to this documentary. What happened in 2023 is that there was all these lawsuits against Travis Scott and he was cleared of wrongdoing and There was a police report released that showed he had a contractual agreement with Apple that he had to finish that show to get his four and a half million dollar purse. His spokesperson claimed he did not have the authority to stop the concert even if he wanted to. I don’t know if I believe that. I mean, you saw people literally screaming like, hey, people are dying here. And you saw the. He literally stopped the show at one point because there was an ambulance coming to, like, help somebody out. So, I mean, I don’t know.

I don’t know the legalities of it, but that’s what they claim is that, oh, he’s innocent because he couldn’t have done anything anyway. But what was curious is that this. The. The Houston Police Department report that finally dropped in 2023, dropped the same exact day that he drops his Utopia album, which.

I don’t know what the angle is there. I just think it’s really weird.

[00:46:55] Speaker C: Dominating the news cycle, probably.

[00:46:57] Speaker A: Yeah, it could be that, right? It could be like that day you search for Travis Scott and it’s like, oh, Travis Scott’s got a new album. Don’t look at the police. I.

It’s hard to know what to believe, but he was supposed to. He was supposed to do an album launch at the Pyramid of Giza that same day, but the people over there called him a Satanist and they canceled it.

Live Nation dude does damage control. And they’re like, no, no, no, no, they didn’t cancel it because he’s a Satanist. It was. It was canceled because they had problems with the construction. That was what Live Nation said. But then if that was true, you think, well, okay, well, maybe they’re going to make up and do the concert later at the Pyramids. No, they didn’t. Instead, he went and did a concert in Rome. But the. Another curious thing that I found when I was sort of catching up on all the. The. The updates to this Travis Scott thing.

Kanye west, who. I mean, we could do hours on Kanye west, right? He’s almost too much. I can’t even follow him anymore. It’s just so much going on with the guy.

He. Because he also showed up at the Diddy trial. He also called Diddy a fed, but then was there supporting Diddy. It’s so bizarre. And another thing that was weird to go back to Diddy is that there was a language that. That Diddy used that mirrored what Kanye west said on. There’s like a famous sort of Kanye west clip from TMZ just a few years ago where he talked about how his. His mother died for this. And he’s like, yeah, Michael Jordan’s father, like, people come up missing in Hollywood. Isn’t that kind of weird? Yeah. And almost that exact same language was used by Diddy. One of the Jane does who testified said that he said the same threatened her. The same language of, like, people come up missing around here. And I just thought that was kind of strange because there’s all these parallels. And then to bring it over back to Travis Scott, Kanye west, of course, the guy who put Travis Scott on the map, he signed Travis Scott. And there was a Donda listening party in. I remember what year? Just. Just a couple years ago.

And on the artwork for the Donda party, it showed a dove which was supposed to, you know, symbolize his mother who died Donda. And he had a Donda Academy that I think has since shut down. And they had a team on there called the Donda Doves.

But anyway, my point was, is that Travis Scott showed us the dove coming out of that cave whilst on fire to start this, you know, horrific satanic ritual. Or so I claim to be satanic ritual because it just seems like that. It seems like. And then, you know, we don’t have time today, of course, but I’m doing it. I’m working a deep dive into Saturn death cults and the history of Saturn worship and how it really does have a basis in human sacrifice. Like, that’s not.

It’s not conjecture. It’s not satanic panic. Like, it’s a real thing. And so when you look at all these events that we say, oh, it’s a blood sacrifice event, like, if it is, then we found the religion that they’re doing this for. It’s. It’s. It’s a Saturn black cube religion.

[00:49:55] Speaker C: Heck yeah.

[00:49:55] Speaker D: Heck yeah, man.

[00:49:57] Speaker C: You hit pretty much all the things that were in my notes that were interesting. Yes. He came out to the song Escape Plan, and this whole thing happened because people couldn’t escape because there was no plan for the scenario. And it’s just like, wow.

And yeah, people who died are the ones who took the left hand path towards the stage.

And also, I heard you say this. Travis Scott, before the event, years ago, I guess, was in a music video wearing a Pearl Jam shirt from their album Dark Matter. And they did a concert for Dark Matter that had a trampoline event. A dark matter indeed. And I just thought the word play again with the title is fun. But also the fact that Travis Scott clearly, like, gets hard over trampoline events because he why are you wearing. You don’t seem like a Pearl Jam fan, but you seem like you’re wearing it because specifically this is associated with a trampoline event.

Yeah. Dark guy. So let’s jump over to the other reason Travis Scott popped up in the news and that’s this weird photo shoot with Michelle Lamy. Lamy. Lamy. I’m gonna put the photo up so for, you know, for people who haven’t seen this photo yet and are, are watching, but not really, you know, watching. Some people look away when the podcasts are happening but look at the screen because the picture is going up. It’s this weird photo shoot they did where it looks like it’s a post coitus photo shoot with Travis Scott and this 81 year old witch, this lady, I guess she’s a fashion icon who paints her fingers black and like I said, a Marina Abramovic kind of archetype. Well, this story goes pretty deep. She, as I looked up, you know, she goes to a lot of Balenciaga events. Again, red flag, you know, the fashion industry, it’s all connected. Well, talk to us about this chick and this weird photo shoot and why, why this is a dust up and where do you think these roads lead?

[00:51:51] Speaker A: Michelle Lammy, she’s interesting looking for sure, but she’s got an interesting story too. And she’s partners with Rick Owens, who’s the guy who’s another fashion sort of icon.

He did some Converse photo shoots where with a bunch of inverted pentagrams a few years ago. But the Travis Scott connection comes through because Travis Scott says that he was backstage with Michelle Lammy and Rick Owens and the backstage area was sort of designed by so. So Rick Owens and Michelle Lammy own a business together of doing a variety of things including like designing furniture, designing art, that sort of thing. Travis Scott apparently had them design his sort of backstage, I don’t know, set. I know what you would call it. His room is set up. He invited a photographer named Nick Knight to do a photo shoot with Michelle Lammy and Travis Scott back there.

And the, like you said the photos are, I mean they, to me they heavily imply that Travis Scott and Michelle Lammy had sex. Like they’re kind of like laying in a, like you said, a post coital caress of sorts. But if what you also see on the images is you see a ton of orbs, right? And this is, you know, referring to like the ghost hunting phenomenon of taking a photo and you see orbs that are. Some believe they’re spirits, some believe they’re just energy. I’ve taken photo. I used to do ghost hunting back in the day and I’ve seen these as well, these orbs. It’s kind of weird stuff. In fact, I saw. We went to, this is back in like 99, we went to a high school that was supposedly haunted. And we were in the auditorium and there was a camera, a camcorder on a tripod. And they said, look at the. And. And it was kind of a new technology back then to have the camcorder with a little flip up screen that you could observe what was being recorded. And they were like, check out the screen and just sit there and watch it and you’ll see orbs floating by. And I, I’ve seen them with my naked eye on the, on the screen, you know, so. So there’s something to that, right? Yeah. And so the people involved here are interesting. Nick Knight, he’s a very famous photographer. He’s also a music video director.

He did work with Kanye west and Lady Gaga and, and Travis Scott. So he, he did the photo shoot. Michelle Lammy, she was, she’s in her 80s, right?

And she’s been in the fashion industry her whole life, basically.

But she also was a lawyer at a certain point. And she stuttered. She studied. I read through this interview with her. That’s how I know this stuff. She studied a philosopher named Gilles Deleuze, which I’m probably butchering his name, but the reason that stood stood out to me is because I’ve been researching the Dark enlightenment for a period of time now. And Gilles Deleuze comes up in the philosophies of the Dark Enlightenment and Nick Land and the ideas of virtual reality and all these things which we can, you know, unpack that later.

The interview I read from Lampoon magazine, she talks about Deleuze and she talks about how she took his college course on Alice in Wonderland and the mirror is what she said, which already is like, okay, that’s, you know, we’re getting into a culted territory because that’s a heavily occulted story that Alice traveling under underground to have her enlightenment process happen. And in an interview she compares Travis Scott to Marina Abramovich, which, as you rightfully so points out, plugs us into a whole host of conspiracies like Pizzagate, because she had, you know, Marina Bramovic, another one of these sort of occult artists that had the spirit cooking events with Lady Gaga. And she, she actually was teaching Lady Gaga the Abramovich method of sort of stripping down her ego for you Know her art or whatever, but she. Anyways, Michelle Lammy compares Travis Scott to Marina Abramovich in that interview specifically. But Gilles Deluge, he had written books, like I said. He inspired a lot of this Dark Enlightenment stuff, which when you unpack the Dark Enlightenment, one of the major philosophies you’ll find is acceleration.

And it’s the belief that we need to accelerate this technology and hyper capitalism because the way they view the world now through people like Peter Thiel and you. And you can hear this with Peter Thiel’s interview with Ross Dothat on the New York Times. Peter Thiel is. He’s like angry. He’s angry that technology hasn’t fulfilled his science fiction fantasies. He’s angry that we’re not already living in a digital matrix, right? And he’s probably seen too many movies. He probably thought, like all of us, we’d be in flying cars. Like Back to the Future showed us by now, which we’re not.

So these accelerationists, they believe that the reason we haven’t had these things is because we put legislation up to sort of slow things down, to be careful with AI and that sort of thing. And they say, no, we need to just including. And this goes into like political ideas and like, they hate social, any kind of socialism thing because they, they’re very heavy, like social Darwinians. And they’re like, look, we can’t slow down progress to take care of poor people and people with handicaps and these sorts of things. They, we need to just sort of plow over them. They’re going to get left behind. We need to just keep it moving. Like that’s what acceleration is, is. And anyway, Jill Deleuze wrote books that in the 1970s that were sort of the seeds of this weird accelerationism theory.

And in one of the books, he talks about how he views the world as everything is just machines, including the human body. We’re just machines for organs.

And that capitalism and systems like capitalism are inevitable, inevitably going to tear down all systems and structures and identities.

And he, he wants the, the people that are into this stuff, they want to, like I said, go into sort of a hyper capitalist space and sort of break down the material world, break down the physical body. And, and what all this means to me when I hear all this, because Geodeluge was also talking about virtuality is what he called it. It’s about living in this virtual reality space. It’s like we’re talking about digital matrix stuff. We’re talking about uploading our consciousness through sort of neuralink chips into the Internet and Deluge. He influenced, you know, Michelle Lammy. Genesis P. Ulridge was. Was interested in Deluge, Brian Eno and all these people. But like any of these sort of fringy philosophers, he committed suicide, you know, So, I mean, like, is this someone we want to listen to? I don’t know. Seems kind of weird, but yeah. So Michelle Lammy, she. The fact she’s hanging out with Travis Scott and comparing him to Marina Abramovich is. Is kind of priceless, to be honest.

[00:59:09] Speaker C: Yeah, that is really kind of insane. She’s the one who looks more like the archetype. But to say that it’s like, well, clearly there is a cult stuff going on, and they’re winking and nodding poor publicly and. Okay, so this is where I hope we can stick the landing with the first hour here, because I want to get at least a little bit into some of the really wild stuff I. I have planned here. But you got this Deluge character who seeds this philosophy, the Dark Enlightenment, we’re calling it basically technocracy and transhumanism sort of stuff. He inspires Curtis Yarvin and nick land.

Now, J.D. vance apparently loves Yarvin, and that would make sense because he’s the little puppet boy of Peter Thiel. Nick Land.

This is wild. So to. To quote your sub stack on this Dark Enlightenment series, you say, first off, Nick Land titled his book the Dark Enlightenment. That’s where we’re getting the term. It’s not just to be provocative, but he’s also. He’s credited as the godfather of accelerationism, which takes us back to the 1990s, you say, where he was a British philosopher who taught at Warwick University. He also participated in a group called the Cybernetic Culture Research Unit, the ccru. And they were wild. They were exploring demonology, numerology, and esoteric ideas such as hyperstician. Nick believed there exists a positive feedback loop with culture that reinforces its own magnetic chain. Symbols are transmitted to everyone in society via the Internet and cause changes in reality. The example you put in parentheses is Pepe the Frog. Nick saw capitalism as a force that is very sensitive to this idea because confidence creates the reality and sells the product. In an interview with nick land from 2009, he said that the thing that is hidden from us, the occult, is an alien order of time which shows up as synchronicities. He also describes hypersticiality as something that condenses our reality, but comes from H.P. lovecraft’s old ones, much like we see in John Carpenter’s Mouth of Madness film. In a three hour interview on Scott Manion’s Metalore in September 2023, Nick Land describes the CCRU’s engagement with Magic and entities from the outside. He also confirms that the kabbalistic numerological expression of CCRU was equivalent to the number 666. Nick Land’s work inspired artists Jake and Dinos Chapman, who were also members of the ccru.

They’ve continued that CCRU perspective by continuously exploring accelerationism and having collaborations with Nick Land. They also collaborated with Balenciaga, which takes us into much darker territory. You say, and there’s another photo I will have them add to the screen and post from this piece that is very dark. They’re sitting in chairs. There’s a weird demon in the corner with four heads and there’s blood everywhere. You are connecting some wild dots. I don’t hear about the CCRU and these people. We get glimpses. The Balenciaga dust up happened and all this. But you are really going a level deeper. Talk to us about some of the stuff I just laid out, how Balenciaga is involved and what, what they’re really, what their role is to play in all this. Because it just seems like a weird fashion company, but obviously it’s more than that.

[01:02:37] Speaker A: Yeah. So this is one of those, one of those moments for me over this, my, you know, last 15 years of doing this sort of research where pieces started falling together and I thought, man, this is too weird. And it’s, it’s, it goes into what’s the Dark Enlightenment. And I’ve done, man, I don’t know, six or seven episodes since February, I believe on my podcast about it. I’ve done several sort of shorter reads on my sub stack about the same content basically. And I’m writing a book about it, which I don’t know when I’ll get it done and probably spring 26.

But it’s fascinating. It’s, it’s, it’s where everything connects together. When you get into the world of conspiracies and the occult now it’s sort of bled into our politics. Right. Which isn’t my forte. Politics is not my forte because I think it’s, it’s a very futile effort to sort of debate opinions on some, on some level.

[01:03:36] Speaker C: Amen.

[01:03:36] Speaker A: But that’s where the territory takes us today. And, and I guess we could start by talking about what the Dark Enlightenment is because it’s, it’s basically the inversion of the Enlightenment. It’s an inversion of the Constitution of America. And it, like I, like I said, this is influenced by philosophies that have been guided by demonic forces.

And I don’t say that in some kind of crazy Christian warrior, Satanic panic concept.

It’s, it’s.

Yeah, so, so you have to understand the philosophies here and the dark Enlightenment. It wants to pursue a new world order, a new government, and it wants to get rid of American democracy.

It wants to get rid of these ideas of equality and taking care of our neighbors and all these things and sort of have a really cold, non empathetic view of the world.

It’s sort of like, you know, because Peter Till was a libertarian for a period of time and this is kind of, I think what you would, what you would get if you got into sort of a Satanic libertarianism in a way. Right. I think it’s, it’s about literally tearing down everything we know of with American democracy and replacing it with this authoritarianism, this corporation. They want to make it into a corporation because, you know, in his school of thought, it’s like businesses and the free market are the best way of going about everything. You know, there’s elements of that that are true. Right. We live in a capitalist society and it’s pretty good. I enjoy air conditioning and water in my drinks. You know, it’s pretty nice. But they, what they want to do is they think that they can run the country with a CEO king that’s not elected. Right. Not a, a CEO king that’s got a, that will have a group of techno elites that manage network states. They call this a variety of terms and they, they’ll call them Freedom cities. They’ll call them.

I can’t think of the other names for it. But the, the, all these ideas go back to the occult concepts laid out by Manly P. Hall and Francis Bacon in their books the Secret Destiny of America and the New Atlantis. It’s the same concept. It’s a idea about a society that’s perfected because they put scientists and technocrats in charge. Yes.

[01:06:03] Speaker C: And not to cut you off. So of course this is like techno transhumanism. I mean the centralized control grid stuff that everybody talks about. This is the philosophical groundwork for this. But I just heard you use that term Freedom City. And you have another substack post about what’s going on in Washington D.C. you said, Will Washington D.C. be the home for the first dark Enlightenment? Freedom City for Peter Thiel. And you talk about the big balls event as a James Shelby Downard Ask Public Psychodrama to justify the federalization of the police force. And that could be a giant op to usher in a test city for this larger project. I just wanted to throw that in because I thought it was topical and it makes sense to me.

[01:06:52] Speaker A: Yeah, that whole thing with the, the bit, you’d have to read my sub stack. But the. This dude, Big Balls, who worked for doge, which was tasked to, you know, reduce the spending in government, which, you know, okay, like, that’s fine. We spent a lot of money. We have a deficit. We should, like, address that, right? Yeah.

But he was assigned as part of DOGE to sort of, like, you know, reduce the government and all this stuff. And the irony of it all is that this guy, who’s very young, I don’t know how old he is now. 19, 20. He’s a young guy. He did this work to, like, reduce, you know, fire government workers and reduce the size of government, cancel a bunch of contracts, and then he.

Within two months, he leaves Doge, and now he’s a. A federal worker working for the government making 170k a year. Like, that’s insane. Yeah, I mean, the hypocrisy is just off the charts. So my, My point is, I think that he was. I think because the supposed event that happened was. And the, the timeline how this worked was strange. In March, Trump signs this executive order talking about how, oh, we need to, you know, bring crime down in. In the capital of Washington, D.C. okay, sounds good. Then we get this event where supposedly Big Balls at three in the morning was at his car in this neighborhood. And if you, if you Google the coordinates of the neighborhood, because I’m not from D.C. i don’t know anything about it, but when you look at the neighborhood, like, it looks beautiful. I’m like, that looks like. That looks like the most beautiful, you know, hipster part of Salt Lake City. Like, it looks very safe. But whatever. They say that he was at this.

This area, and at 3 in the morning, these, these hoodlums come up to him and they. They want to steal his car. So he throws his girlfriend in the car and then confronts the guys and gets beat up. And he’s all bloody. There’s, like, this photo of him showing him, like, all beat up.

And the cops just happen to be patrolling right then and there, and they break it up.

And I’m like, okay, it’s three in the morning, and you’re telling me, like, there’s a cop, there’s multiple cops, like, patrolling just down the street. They just happen to be there. At the same time. Sounds like you got this under control. Like that’s a pretty good response time to me. Yeah. And, and I just don’t believe it. There’s people that are claiming that Big Balls was actually soliciting a prostitute. I don’t know anything that’s true. That’s what they’re claiming. But hey, my point is, I think it’s all staged. It’s problem, reaction, solution. You know, David, I taught me this many moons ago.

It’s, it’s whether it was staged or not, or partially staged, whatever. They’re using it now to be like, oh my God, look, there’s, it’s rampant with crime, which maybe it is. I don’t know, I don’t live there. The, the statistics in the, from the own police department say that violent crime is down. So take from that what you will.

[01:09:36] Speaker C: So I thought it was a good point that tied into recent events that kind of goes from the Dark enlightenment and spills out into real world applications of the philosophy that have now been justified in our current timeline. But I don’t want to leave the free listeners hanging when it comes to that stuff. I read about the CCRU and Balenciaga, maybe more the CCRU because it seems like these people were involved in a cybernetic culture research unit and doing all kinds of demonology type stuff. And this has been my thing. And I know you also recently interviewed Jacques Fillet. I want to ask you a little bit about that eventually.

I’ve always found it curious that Jacques Vallee is this leading, leading thinker in Ufology and then also involved in the, the foundation of cybernetics. And I don’t know if he’s exactly tied to the ccru, but he definitely is one of these core people at the beginning of the infancy of the Internet. And now we have this age where people are saying, I think AI might be just demons, I think it might be a, a vessel for consciousness that comes from the other side.

So very interesting. But yeah, try to give the free people at least a little taste of the, the activities of the CCRU and how this piece ties in.

[01:10:54] Speaker A: So the, the guy who wrote the book on the Dark Alignment, Nick Land, who used these accelerationist philosophies, he was part of the CCRU at Warwick University in England.

It was a collective right. And it was actually started by a woman named Sadie Plant who used it as a cyber feminist research group. But she was, I guess, kind of like not super into it. Nick Land was. So he kind of joined the group and started Taking over and doing experiments. And their experiments were in doing various writings and experimentations. In fact, I’ve got the book over here somewhere. It’s. It’s fascinating. I’m only a little chunk into the book, but I’ve already got just tons of content that I’m going to put into my book that I’m going to write about the Dark Enlightenment.

[01:11:40] Speaker C: Are you referring to his book, the Dark Enlightenment?

[01:11:42] Speaker A: There’s a book called the Collective Writings of the ccru, where it. It’s a published collection of the variety of essays and stuff that they were writing. And a lot of them were just like experiments or like fictional writings. They were really into a variety of subjects. Cyberpunk, horror, HP Lovecraft, esotericism, Carl Young, William S. Burroughs, Kabbalah, numerology and demonology. So these are all of the occult things that we talk about all the time.

And they were really into a thing called hyperstition. And that’s again, this idea of, like, synchronicities manifesting new realities.

And he. They called it. They call it a positive feedback circuit, meaning they thought they could sort of create reality on some levels. It’s. It’s a mixture of superstition and, like, hyper reality. It’s. It’s. I don’t know, it’s. It’s like a mixture of propaganda, magic, predictive programming, symbolism, synchronicities and so on. Like I said, it’s kind of like the ideas of Pepe the Frog, right? Because Pepe the Frog was this strange moment in time where people in 4chan were fueling up this. This sigil, this meme, and they believe that they were able to get Donald Trump elected because Donald Trump, I don’t know if you’ll remember, back in 2016, they thought there was zero chance this guy getting in. I mean, it was as good as in the bag. He wasn’t going to get in. And, you know, it happened and it was shocking.

And. And that’s one of the ideas that supports this kind of concept. Now, Nick Land, during the ccru, says that they were actually doing magic. They weren’t talking about it, they weren’t researching it. They were doing it, and they were engaging with these forces, these entities.

And he sums them up as a collective called the outside.

Right? Which is, of course a reference to the adversary or Lucifer. Right, Satan. But he said that the outside were these entities that could condense into our realities through hyperstition. Right. You could fuel enough intention, belief, energy into these sigils or entities, and they could manifest into our world. And he specifically called them the old Ones from HP Lovecraft, which is your Cthulhu type entities, not to like go into this deep rabbit hole. Which ties us into Kenneth Grant because that was Kenneth Grant’s whole thing was making contact with these Lovecraftian entities. There’s a weird connection there of how the entities from the outside, they, they move in a different dimension. They’re not from this space time.

And that’s what. If you look at the COVID of the CCRU collective writings, they’ve got this thing called a numerogram. And that’s kind of their visual depiction of what these entities are trying to sort of explain to mankind as their system of time and space. And I know it gets really weird. I’m trying to understand it as well. And, and just like you said, the, the real tell was when Nick Land was at that interview and he said that in Kabbalah numerology the CCRU is equated to 666, which is the mark of the beast. Right. So there’s, there’s a lot of, there’s a lot of weird things with how the occult and magic and manifestation have worked their way into our politics and our government.

And it’s part of the UFO phenomenon. And that’s why I wrote those two books about, you know, aliens, UFOs in the occult. Use your illusion one and two. Because that’s what this is all about. And that’s exactly what I, how I interpret. When I interviewed Dr. Jacques Valet, he basically said like, yeah, that’s right. That’s how this works. People got to understand that.

[01:15:22] Speaker C: Well that’s good way to stick the landing for the free people. And then we’ll get into some of the deeper details. I’m going to throw the COVID of the book up on the screen cuz yeah, it is kind of a sigil esque. This is just so wild. I’ve just never heard of this group. Everyone wants to go reference Jack Parsons in the Babylon working. And we got this happening in the 90s, like it’s much fresher. So I appreciate this. So I also want to throw out another quote from the series. This is more about Balenciaga, but this is from your Substack series. But you say Balenciaga’s parent company is Curing, which owns Gucci, St. Lauren and other high fashion brands endorsed by your favorite celebrities. The CEO of Caring is billionaire Francois Henry Pineault. That’s Selma Hayek’s husband digging through the art auctions of Christie’s, also owned by Kering. I Read about an art series by the Chapman brothers. These guys I mentioned earlier of child mannequins. Glad this is second hour stuff, really, because I think YouTube would kick me right off just for showing these images.

[01:16:22] Speaker D: And talking about them.

[01:16:23] Speaker C: I definitely say some trigger words here, but the most controversial one was called Face, that was auctioned for $140,000 and it was described more graphically by Eevee magazine. It’s a male toddler with an erect penis in place of his nose and an anus in place of his mouth. The piece of art shows the boy walking with a large brown T shirt on and purple sneakers. Another piece of art with the same title, Face, shows an adolescent girl standing completely naked with the same genitalia in place of her nose and mouth. She’s wearing nothing but a pair of black sneakers. Yet another disturbing image shows a young child with two heads and their faces are joined by what appears to be a vagina. It’s titled Two Faced Cunt. I think that’s kind of a tip off there. And it sold for more than 111, 000. There are many other pieces of art by the Chapman brothers that show severed body parts, blood and gore. And this was one of the darker elements of the Balenciaga fallout. And of no surprise to me, the brand survived. And celebrities like Kim Kardashian, who endorsed the brand, went unscathed even after suggesting they would consider parting ways with the company. And I have a few other images to put up on screen. Just like, you know, you hear about John Podesta’s art, you start looking at it and it’s like, oh my God. Like, you know, one example, you know, doesn’t pattern make, but we have a definite pattern here of really creepy behavior from these Chapman brothers and the people buying this stuff for six figures. Clearly there’s something going on. And one of the things I want to show is a gory, tortured guy that they hung. It was a statue, and they hung this statue in a cathedral during a show. And I was like, a cathedral? I mean, you’re the Christian Satanist guy. You know, I definitely. Sometimes I’m like, maybe that’s a simplistic lens for what’s going on. But yet here are the examples.

You know, you’re putting this naked, tortured statue of a man in a cathedral. Well, I mean, I guess to be fair, naked, tortured, when you say it, when you. Statues are kind of common in, in cathedrals. But hey, you know, I kid, I kid.

[01:18:32] Speaker A: But what the.

Well, it’s because these people they. They. I. That’s what the big revelation of the Method is. It’s about understanding that there’s power in manifesting and creating realities through these occult practices of magic. And the politicians do it. You know, there’s. There. There’s some statistic about how most of these politicians follow, have like, personal astrologists on their. On their payrolls, right? And it’s. It’s because there’s. There’s truth to this. And that’s what Dr. Jacques Valet was basically telling me when I was interviewing him about his new book, Forbidden Science is six. He literally says stuff about alchemy and things. And I was like, I, you know, and I’m paraphrasing heavily because, you know, he’s one of these people that’s so intelligent that when he talks you’re like, wait a minute, What? And. And if you listen to it. Because I had to re. Listen to the whole thing because usually I’m. Usually I’m a little sharper when something. When I’m interviewing somebody I can kind of follow. But when he was talking, I was like, oh, my God, I don’t know what he’s saying. I’m too stupid for this guy. But then when I really listened to it, I was like, okay, I get what he’s saying. And he’s kind of. You’ll ask him a question and then he’ll. Instead of him directly answering it, he kind of like goes in this roundabout story and this history and this example, and then he kind of brings it back home. But by the time you get back home, you’re. You’re kind of like, well, wait a minute. What are we talking about? But when I re. Listen, I thought, okay, he’s basically saying, yes, the way we make contact with these entities is through occult practices. And we have to. If we want to understand what these entities are or have conversation with them, we have to warm up to the idea that you have to embrace some of these occult practices, which is, you know, like you said, that’s what Jack Parsons and Crowley and Kenneth Grant and all these people were doing. That’s what. When we talk about all this weird satanic stuff, I don’t think that these people are. I don’t. Well, I don’t know that I. I don’t suspect all of them are just, you know, Church of Satan followers and they hate Christ. I think they’re. They’re impartial to it. I think they just think, look, whatever works is fine. And if that’s channeling dark energies or. Or good energies, I Don’t care. Whatever gets me there quicker. And I imagine that’s why they get into some of this dark imagery, like the Jake and Dino’s Chapman artwork, you know, and like you said, Jake Chapman, I, I think it was just the one, brother. I think it was just Jake Chapman was the one that was part of CCRU with Nick Land, who was doing all these experimentations.

And, you know, people know. I’m sure your listeners are, are privy to the Balenciaga scandal that was happening a few years ago when, you know, it was kind of the end of the big, you know, looking back on the history of conspiracies. Like, we had a really good run as conspiracy theorists from 2020 to 2022, and this kind of was the final thing that the mainstream, the mainstream paid attention to. And then they kind of moved on and went back to their business as usual, because to me, I think the ultimate scop was to introduce this QAnon thing into the public. And that’s how they dismissed the Balenciaga thing. And they just said, look, this is the only people talking about this is the crazy QAnon people, you know, And I think it’s a real, you know, it’s, it, it’s how the whole system wrote. I don’t need to explain it. Your people know what I’m talking about. It’s how, it’s how they work it, right? They’re like, you know, Alex Jones. You know, I don’t, I don’t listen to Alex Jones, and I think he’s got a lot of issues that, that I don’t agree with.

[01:22:02] Speaker C: The new one or the old one?

[01:22:05] Speaker A: The new one. The stone cold Alex Jones.

[01:22:07] Speaker C: Yeah, there you go.

[01:22:10] Speaker A: I think he, I, I don’t know what’s going on with the guy, but he’s, he’s, he’s suspect in my personal opinion. And I still got love for the guy. I still respect him for sure. But, like, the new, the new stuff he’s doing, I’m like, bro, what are we doing? Like, he literally was, was saying about how, like, I, I’ll, I’ll casually go on Infowars just to see what he’s talking about. And the other day I went on there and he was talking about how, well, you see how great the, to have the military in D.C. is for these people. They love it. And I’m like, is this news? Are you just like the new mainstream media dude? What happened? Like, to be bootlicking for the idea of having the US Military in American cities to, like, anyway, but Whatever. I don’t want to get political. It’s. It’s. That’s my personal opinion. But the. The. I think that QAnon thing was a whole psyop for this exact reason. They. They want these sort of lightning rods that they can be like, oh, it’s a conspiracy. Get the QAnon people to talk about it. And that’s kind of what killed the whole. The whole thing. But Balenciaga obviously had all this weird ads with, like, kids and bdsm. And if you zoomed in on the ad, they had references to these books. The one image that I think it was the. What’s the chick from Friends Court?

I can’t think of Jennifer Aniston. No, the other Courtney Cox. Yeah, I think it was Courtney Cox in the photo in the background. If you zoom in on the books, they. There was a. It was an art book. And if you look up that guy. I know this is terrible. I don’t have the name in front of me, though. But if you look up that guy, he had created a film that I covered. And in the film, it was, like, this insane, like, free Masonic symbolism that had, like, cannibalism in it and all this crazy stuff that I was like, bro, that artist was the same guy who. He made a book that had a bunch of images of, like, little babies doing cannibalism and playing in blood. And it’s like, dude, these people are, like, sick in the head. I don’t know what. I mean. It’s one thing to be into edgy stuff. Like, I want. I want to see Texas Chainsaw Massacre last night in the theater. Right? So, like, I’m not approved. I like Gore, but, like, it goes to some weird level when you get, like, kids involved and stuff. It’s like, bro, like, nobody wants this.

[01:24:15] Speaker C: Yes. Apparently the artist and photographer in charge of that Balenciaga campaign was Gabriel Galam. Bertie. The other big thing going on then was the Wayfarer scandal, too.

[01:24:28] Speaker A: I.

[01:24:29] Speaker C: Right in that timeline, it was the last thing to be. Like, oh, really? They’re. They’re really trafficking kids by naming furniture after them and charging 10 grand. It’s like. Like, hey, look, the data is the data. That’s what it looks like. You know, you want to talk about, like, yeah, why Lex Wessner thinks he’s possessed by a Debuck demon and also has international shipping lines for his retail companies, where they make the stuff in the third world and bring it here. You think maybe a kid or two makes it on that ship? You know what happened with Kate Spade. Why’d she kill herself? Why’d her husband come out wearing a rescuers mask after her wife was killed? I mean. Well, I think she was the, the theory is she was killed because I think she committed suicide like the other ones.

[01:25:13] Speaker A: Yeah, but yeah, you’re going back. Yeah.

[01:25:15] Speaker C: Who’s aunt? I mean, what’s Anthony Bourdain doing? He’s doing a travel show for cnn. Is he an agent of some kind that commits suicide? And you know, Anthony Bourdain, a lot of people love him, but he, he gives me a little bit of a creepy vibe. And he almost seems like a.

He filled the role of like a Hunter S. Thompson when Hunter S. Thompson went away. Less of a wild man, but still kind of like playing the part of this guy on the outside, you know, this rebel who just is casting all this shade at the Authority. Yet you work for CNN as a international correspondent, having meals with Obama, photo shoots with Obama in some Cantonese deli. It’s like, all right, well and then.

[01:25:58] Speaker A: He was dating Dario Argento’s daughter Asia, and she was the one that supposedly started the Me Too movement. But then later we find out she was messing around with an underage boy too. You know, I’ll say allegedly because I don’t know that off top of my head. But if you look it up, you can see what I’m talking about.

[01:26:13] Speaker C: So what I think is interesting is that these, these sales. So again, to go back a little bit with what I read, Balenciaga has a parent company called Kering and that company also owns Christie’s auction house. And so they’re taking the artists who are making this creepy, who are part of their network, they’re selling their art for six figures and it’s all this like really demonic gory stuff. I don’t know who would want it in like a mansion or their home. I wonder what’s going on here, really? I actually so on Wikipedia you can just start going down the rabbit hole. I advise people smoke a joint and go look at the people who buy this art. One of them’s the head of citadel capital, the 35th richest guy in the world.

They give you some links of who’s, who’s purchased this, this and you know, it could probably take you down a podesta esque rabbit hole of like, yeah, the, the purchasers of this art are the creeps. Why would someone buy a statue of a 10 year old boy with a dick nose and an mouth and pay six figures for that?

I. You couldn’t pay me Six figures to put it in my house, you know, let alone purchase it. So it’s crazy. But I wonder with the art, do you think there could be like, because these, these are occultists, it’s like, do they, do they put sigils in the artwork? That’s going to help with manifestation? Like, I guess I’m thinking like maybe they’re not buying the art itself. Maybe they’re buying some kind of infused magical potency to the art. Or maybe they’re buying the art and the art is a ticket to getting a kid on the other end somewhere. Like, it seems like the art itself isn’t the thing. That’s just a speculation though.

[01:28:00] Speaker A: Interesting. Yeah, you’re, you might be onto something there because it’s, it’s like that Annabelle doll, right, that was at the Ed and Lorraine Warren house that was possessed with a demon of some kind and it lied. It said it, the doll like lied and said it was, was the spirit of a young girl who, you know, wanted to live again but then they later found out it was a demon. So then they encase it in a, a sort of sigil laced glass case at the Warren Museum. And then this dude, I think his name is Dan Rivera, was doing a tour around the country with this, the Annabelle doll. And he died while he was on in the middle of the tour, which obviously super strange. And the police say there’s, oh, there’s no, no weird things going on with it. I mean the guy was young. He was, I don’t know, 30s, 40s.

And then right after that, Matt Rife, the comedian bought the rights to every to. He bought the Ed and Lorraine house and then also has a five year rights license for all of the occult possessed objects like Annabelle.

And now he’s like, yeah, let’s, we’re gonna have this be a museum that people can kind of walk through and maybe an Airbnb that they could spend the night. And I’m like, bro, I ain’t, I ain’t going nowhere near that doll. What are you talking about?

[01:29:15] Speaker C: I’m really glad you brought this up because it was in my notes too. So not only have you covered Matt Rife, but there was a Reddit post recently about this by a Redditor who goes by Rich Gas. I’m trying to get an interview with him. He’s got some really great posts, but here’s what he says about the red flags with Matt Rife. So again, I love the world of comedy. When anyone shoots up in any industry, you have to question where did this person come from? Why are they coming out of nowhere? Seems like an industry industry plant. What did they do to get this status? And why are they just only average, but yet they’re at the top of every list. So already those are red flags. But this guy, Rich Gas says Matt Rife has a history of hanging out with Seth Green, who’s a questionable character when it comes to the pedo subject to the point that he calls Seth family.

Matt gets mentioned by Cat Williams in some weird story of how he had some ungodly things to get signed. And Cat declined those offers, calling it akin to selling his soul. I don’t remember that. If that’s part of the Sheldon the the Sharp interview. I didn’t hear Matt get mentioned there. But anyway, either Matt does commercials with Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher, which is just blatant if you know about Thorne, the charity involving kids that Ash Ashton spearheads. And of course they left the country when the heat started getting on. And then Matt has a history of idolizing Jean Michelle Baz Kwait, the artist who was a confessed voodoo medium that channeled occult phraseology into mainstream music and entertainment for Ellen Gaga, Diddy and Jay Z.

Now there is another article, as you say, that he not only purchased the Annabelle doll, but he purchased the home that the conjuring was based on and now he owns over 700 cursed artifacts. Sounds like he knows a little bit about black magic and manifestation. But I don’t know if you know this John Michelle Basquiat, Basque artist, but I looked him up too. Jay Z calls him one of his greatest inspirations and named an album after him. The Weeknd’s hairstyle is modeled after him. A lot of people think the Weeknd was a little boy who they put up on stage. In the last 18 months of his life, Baz Kuait became something of a recluse. His continued drug use is thought to have been a way of coping after the death of his friend andy Warhol in February 1980. 87. Another creep. As for his background, if you go to this Jean Michaels, you his Wikipedia page, it describes his life and it says, you know, when he was younger he was taking. Kicked out of the house or something, taking LSD and living on Central park benches and brought home by his dad. And then he ends up having these galleries in Tokyo, Paris and the Guggenheim. This is crazy. So. But despite attempts at sobriety, Basquiat died at the age of 27 of a heroin overdose at his home on Great Jones street in Manhattan. Multiple sales at Christie’s auctions in the tens of millions for his paintings. So this guy. I mean, I. I saved that punchline for the end there. He’s got all this. This crazy stuff going on in his life. He’s an inspiration to Jay Z.

He’s got galleries all over. He dies at 27. Doesn’t seem like much time to have all this happen to you unless it starts maybe a little bit before you’re 18.

[01:32:39] Speaker A: Yeah, that is interesting, isn’t it? Yeah. I’ve never. I never dove into his works. I know he’s. His. His name comes out. I think it’s pronounced Basquiat is how they pronounce his name.

[01:32:48] Speaker C: Yeah, I took a stab. You know how it goes.

[01:32:51] Speaker A: I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure that’s how they pronounce it. And I know his stuff come up because he. He’s the one who. He would use this image of, like, the bloody palm print face that we saw with, like, the Tom Hanks.

[01:33:02] Speaker C: Really?

[01:33:04] Speaker A: That’s where that comes from.

[01:33:05] Speaker C: Oh, my God. We’re gonna put that up on the screen. But, yeah, it’s. We’ve seen the montage. If you cruise the conspiracy forums, it’s a. It looks like Wilson from Castaway. Okay. It looks like Wilson. The handprint on the volleyball A court. That’s a Tom Hanks movie. He’s considered a little creepy. And then you have these pictures of Jay Z and Ellen wearing white hoodies with that on the chest. And that’s this guy’s art. Holy.

Didn’t know that.

[01:33:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Maybe that deserves a bit of a deep dive. I’ve never personally looked into his stuff. That is interesting. He would be in the. The fabled 27 Club, though, too.

[01:33:46] Speaker C: An old pro. You are.

[01:33:48] Speaker A: And in the. In the hip hop community, there’s that. I believe the claim is that Basquiat was gay and that people are like, why is Jay Z, like, modeling? Like, his hair is the same, right? And it’s like, why is he sort of trying to make himself look like a gay dude? Because, you know, there’s a lot of sort of homophobia going on in the rap community.

[01:34:06] Speaker C: Man, that is crazy. Yeah. So I mentioned the thing about the Weeknd’s hairstyle. I’ve seen Jay Z do that same thing. So this apparently comes from this kid.

[01:34:13] Speaker A: I just think same thing.

[01:34:14] Speaker C: So crazy it doesn’t add up because here you have a guy who at some point was young and basically homeless, like a runaway doing drugs in Central park. And then he ends up at this exalted status, and it’s like barely even enough time for that to occur, unless you are the fuck boy of Jay Z and the crew. And then they say, oh yeah, draw some squiggles. We’ll sell it at auction. Don’t worry about it.

[01:34:38] Speaker A: It’s interesting, that is. You know, I’ve heard, I’ve heard a lot of conspiracies about the art world to begin with. It’s something I don’t really know much about, so I don’t have tons of like interest or background in it. But I guess the idea is like, it’s a way of laundering money and it’s a way of, of investing. You know, like there’s all these reasons to have art besides just having something nice on your wall. But. But maybe that lends itself to some of these darker, seedier realms, right? Like, maybe it’s like, hey, you know, if I’m into a certain having, you know, having a sex slave of some kind, I’ll trade you this art for. I don’t know, I. Just speculating.

[01:35:13] Speaker C: Well, the way they say the art thing goes is you get a little boy to make the paintings and then you, okay, you know, sell me your paintings and then you go and you get it appraised by someone who’s also in the network and they appraise it, you know, 10x what you paid, and then you go and you donate it to a museum and you get a tax rebate of that higher appraisal value. So that’s how you just launder the money or you sell it at auction and it’s, you know, status is already at this level. I mean, I don’t know, but the, the thing I always heard was the donating it to a museum or something because you get that write off that is at the higher appraisal value and it’s all a wink, wink, nod, not nudge, nudge, you know, all that stuff. Yeah, but going back to that other detail, the reason why I even brought him up is Matt Rife apparently loves this guy. And, and this guy, Rich Gas says that John Michael was an artist who was a confessed voodoo medium that channeled occult phraseology into mainstream music and entertainment for Ellen, Gaga, Diddy and Jay Z. That’s. Now we’re in your wheelhouse. You got to look at that, man.

[01:36:22] Speaker A: Yeah, I’m slipping, bro. I need to figure that out. You said the guy’s getting old Rich Gas. I’m getting old Rich Gas on. On Reddit. Is that what his name is?

[01:36:31] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah, but you could just.

[01:36:33] Speaker A: All right, I’ll follow him. I’ll check him out.

[01:36:35] Speaker C: I mean, you’re the one who connected the.

[01:36:36] Speaker D: The art.

[01:36:37] Speaker C: The Wilson art. So, I mean. Yeah, you find out the circle’s not that big.

[01:36:42] Speaker A: You’re planting seeds here or something. I gotta research here because you might be right. Maybe it’s like you imbue the art with.

Because this. This reminds me of, you know, those old satanic panic theories about how they said there was a master copy of the record they would do in a witch’s ceremony, and they would infuse the satanic things into the record, the master print, so that all the copies of it would have this sort of satanic messaging in it. Yeah, it’s kind of what it sounds like, but I. I don’t. I don’t poo poo that. Like, did that happen in the record industry? I have no idea. But is that something that in the realm of the occult is possible? I believe so, yeah, for sure. I think that there’s a lot of ideas of manipulating energy, and I think that music is a super powerful medium. I think you can influence all kinds of things with music. Right. Good, bad, in between. And I mean, look at the Travis Scott concert we were talking about. I mean, these people were stomping on people to death, and no one, you know, seemed to want to stop the show. I mean, it’s crazy. It’s weird. It’s weird stuff.

[01:37:45] Speaker D: Yeah, it really is.

[01:37:46] Speaker C: I just think you’ve done some great work here, given, like, doing this for so long. There are a couple of textbook examples that everyone goes to, and then you start to be like, after a few years, you’re like, is that really all we got? Like, those two examples, like, are people really involved in the occult at a high level? Why do we got to cite Jack Parsons again? Like, isn’t there anything else? And, you know, you’re really doing the primary research that comes up with all this fresh stuff. And it ties in basically cybernetics research and the occult and the artists working with Balenciaga and this Lammy chick who is now doing photo shoots with Travis Scott, who everyone thinks is very occult heavy and involved. And he has this concert drenched in occult symbolism where people get trampled and killed. And he wears a T shirt of the last time this happened at a concert. And it really is all right there.

[01:38:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Then that’s what the. That. To sort of add more to that Jake Chapman connection with the ccru, there was a. Ironically, when I was reading and researching for My shows on the Dark Enlightenment, there was a video he released on his YouTube channel about accelerationism. It was called Accelerate or Die. And you can watch it and it breaks down the entire like, idea of accelerationism. What their goal is and why they think what they think. And when you watch it, it doesn’t, it doesn’t really come off as this pure evil thing. In fact, when you watch it, you kind of think, okay, I kind of get what you’re saying. And it’s, it’s kind of, it’s kind of a weird documentary. But if you watch it, you’ll see them talking about how the Industrial revolution started this whole capitalism thing and humanity is in this endless pursuit of technology, you know, going all the way back to fire and, and creating, building the wheel.

And the idea that technology was supposed to actually make our lives much better, much easier.

And instead all it did was made a handful of billionaires rich and that now the Industrial revolution is sort of becoming inverted and now we are becoming the machines, the cogs and the wheel.

So they, they think that. Which like, I, I agree with some elements of what he, what they’re saying there. I’m like, I don’t know, I kind of see what they’re saying, but they think that there’s no point in slowing down this progress of technology and we might as well just usher in this AI and sort of end humanity because that’s the inevitable like thing. Because you can’t stop this. You, you, you, you literally can’t stop this. In fact, I think that Deluge guy is referenced in the documentary because they have different, they have different versions of accelerationism. You got leftist acceleration and then you’ve got the far right acceleration. And a lot of these people that are into the Dark Enlightenment that we speak of today are more into the far right accelerationism, which is co opted by racial tensions. Like some of these white supremacist groups and there’s like these satanic Nazi groups, they’re accelerationists also. And their view is they need to create this new world order, but when we do it, we need to do it through a race war.

It gets really, it gets really dark at some elements. That’s why the one episode I have is on the order of nine angles and they’re basically a satanic occult magic Nazi group. And you know, William Ramsey wrote a whole book on it that I referenced. And then there’s, there’s a few books about this subject that I referenced in this show. But it gets into really dark territory and I, and I can’t help, but it connected back to that CCRU where Nick Land was communicating with these demonic entities called the outside. And I’m like, well, of course that, like, this is where it would go. If we keep listening to these demons telling us what to think. Of course it goes into this idea of, like, you know what we should do? We should just start killing people. Like, that seems like a great idea, you know?

[01:41:53] Speaker C: Yeah. And, I mean, you’ve been all over this stuff, and now we have Pentagon or military, UFO whistleblowers throwing up in Aki and in their posts and shouting at the Internet, trying to get the attention of Elon Musk. And it’s like, okay, we’re right Back to technologists, UFOs and the occult. I mean, this has been your bread and butter for so long.

[01:42:15] Speaker A: If anyone listens to that latest Joe Rogan with representative Anna Luna. That’s what she talks about. I know, I know a lot of people are kind of hung up on the thing where she talks about interdimensional entities, but if you keep listening, she references the Book of Enoch multiple times. That’s arguably the biggest point of the show is her. And. And I think there’s a point of sort of disseminating that information to the normies to get. They got to do this slowly, I guess. They got to roll this out slowly. And when she talks about the Book of Enoch, she talks about how the. This. This is very important to this whole thing, and there’s a spiritual element to these aliens and all this stuff, but she doesn’t go, you know, deeper into it. And in fact, Joe Rogan even talks about how he’s like, yeah, I really need to read that. But then he’s like, joe’s funny. He’s like, but what I want to do is I want to learn Aramaic and read it in the original Aramaic. I’m like, oh, brother, what are you talking about? Just read the damn book.

[01:43:08] Speaker C: I’m glad you brought that interview up, because I. I just recorded an interview here with Stephen Bassett, and I really gave him a hard time about how we have all this drip, drip, drip disclosure. It’s right around the corner. And yet all we ever hear about is, I saw a guy who knew a guy who said heard something. It’s like, even. Even her. She’s like, I saw photos of the evidence. Well, just let us know when you can share that or let us know when you can say that you’ve seen a body or a craft, otherwise, shut the up. But, yeah, that interview with. With Luna dropped the next day. And I was like, God damn it, Joe, you’re stepping all over my territory here.

[01:43:47] Speaker A: I recorded breaking social norms with my wife, talking about this Luna interview. And I had the same, maybe we’re just like cranky old guys at this point or something, but I had the same fed up with it moment where I’m just like, I’m so tired of these people just teasing this alien thing. And. And it’s all, like I said, it’s always some witness, some story of a guy, and I saw it in a skiff and I’m like, this is outrageous. Like, just show us the. Show us the Roswell bodies, whatever. Like, you got to show me something to make me believe instead of this, like, weird, you know, slow drip disclosure you’re talking about.

[01:44:20] Speaker C: Well, it’s true. It’s. It’s so frustrating. So, you know, we got started a little late. We made. We went a little long on the first hour. If we could say we have like 20, 25 minutes left to really knock this thing out. You did some recent profiles on Sabrina Carpenter and Ariana Grande, and maybe this is the thing we spend the remainder of our time with. But. So I don’t know much about Sabrina Carpenter. I know that she had a dust up recently over this new album cover. We’ll pull that up too, where she’s on her knees in front of a guy like a dog. And the album is called Man’s Best Friend.

So she got her start as the star of Girl Meets World, the boy Meets World Disney spin off, I guess. She also did a photo shoot under a sprinkler on the lawn modeled after a big scene in the movie Lolita. So it’s already suggested that she’s playing with this like, barely legal sort of thing. But is this just another example of the Disney kid to over sexualized slut archetype pipeline that they got going in Hollywood? Or is. Is something deeper going on? I mean, she’s just the new Britney Spears.

[01:45:24] Speaker A: It’s a formula that works, apparently. But the she. Yeah, I did it. I did a full episode on it. And the genesis of that episode was because on the conspiracy subreddit back around, I think November of 24, someone posted this sort of analysis of Sabrina Carpenter that was supposedly really good. I was actually, I was just kind of. You know, sometimes when you’re. You’re in the middle of doing stuff and you’re waiting in line somewhere, you’ll kind of comb through Reddit or whatever. And I saw it and I thought, okay, I gotta read that later. And I just kind of put the phone down, whatever. I went to look for it later, it was gone. I didn’t think much of it. But then months later, around, I don’t know, January, February, March, someone started talking about how this post got taken down and it became this conspiracy that, you know, Sabrina Carpenter took this post down. And I was like, oh, okay, that was, that must have been what happened. And then later, someone posted the original. Someone had saved it and they posted the original post, which I, I believe you can still find today. Probably.

[01:46:22] Speaker C: Yeah, I actually have the entire text of it right here on this piece of paper. But we, like, we’ve done this before, as I said.

[01:46:30] Speaker A: But.

[01:46:30] Speaker C: Yeah, sorry, continue. I just, like, this is too coincidental. You’re bringing up the exact thread I’m staring at.

[01:46:36] Speaker A: Yeah, so, so what I did for my show, because I don’t like to just, like, bite off people’s research, so I, I, I said at the beginning of the show, I was like, this is based off a Reddit post. I’m going to go through the talking points and then I’m going to add and elaborate and dive into some of the points to tell you, like, what I think and if they’re real or whatever. Right. So a lot of these points, full disclosure, are coming from that, that Reddit post. Okay. I, I’m saying this because I got in trouble from someone.

I’m not gonna get into the drama of it, but some. Another creator was like, hey, man, you stole my. And I’m like, bro, we both looked at the same Reddit post and I said it on my show, like, it’s the same thing.

[01:47:12] Speaker C: Anyway, give it a break. Vigilant Citizen. We’re all gonna be okay.

[01:47:15] Speaker A: Vigilant Citizen.

Who is Vigilant Citizen? You know what? I think it’s weird. Have you ever seen Vigilant Citizen? Is that a human being? Have you ever talked to them?

[01:47:24] Speaker C: No, no, I just, I know their work.

[01:47:27] Speaker A: But, yeah, they’ve been, I mean, a legend, right? They’ve been around forever, covering this stuff long before I did. And I often wonder, like, how they’re doing given the. Because guys like you and I have had to keep sort of pivoting with technology, you know what I mean? And a person like Vigilant Citizen, like, they’ve always stuck with the blog.

No real social media presence, no video, no YouTube, no. No real books. And I think, like, I’m starting to wonder. I’m like, was this, is this an AI thing? Like, what is this thing? And, and I Think, you know, young people today will, Will. Will never find vigilant citizen, because, like, no one’s surfing the Internet like they used to. And then on top of that all, it’s. There’s always going to be this question of, well, is this just like an AI blog? Like, where’s the human being behind it? Because that’s, that’s part of the deal with podcasting today is you’ve got to get your face out there so people know you’re a human being and not just some weird, you know, AI thing. Sorry, side tangent, but good.

But Sabrina Carpenter, her. Her. Her father is Nancy Cartwright’s stepbrother, which means her aunt is basically Bart Simpson. Right? Nancy Card, of course, the voice of Bart Simpson. She is a Scientologist, as are Sabrina’s parents and her sisters.

The question that everyone has is Sabrina Carpenter a Scientologist? And apparently she’s been elusive about confirming that some people believe that she is the. The next sort of replacement for Tom Cruise.

Those are some pretty big shoes to fill, I think. But that’s like some of the conspiracies is that it’s. Ties are into Scientology and the Simpsons, which obviously has all those, you know, predictive programming events that have happened over the years. Synchron, mysticism, whatever you want to call it.

And then when I was looking into her, she had. She had done an episode of Law and Order svu and the episode is about a child being controlled by a child exploitation network. So kind of strange that she would sort of get a start out with something talking about, you know, child abuse on that level. She was in the movie Horns, which starred Danny Ratcliffe as the sort of pan. Archetype, and she gets.

She gets like, raped and murdered. I haven’t seen the movie, but then she shows up at the premiere wearing an Alice in Wonderland dress, which is again, a film about initiations and things.

And then, you know, she, like I said, she started off with Disney as well. She was with Girl. A show called Girl Meets World.

She starts her music career with Disney’s Hollywood Records. She does a bunch of albums. I. I went into a little side thing on my show, talking about how she dated Barry Keoghan, who was the guy in Saltburn, if you’ve ever seen that, which was a intriguing movie. It. It plays on Shakespeare’s Midsummer Night’s Dream themes. And it’s. It’s kind of weird. A weird movie in her music videos, you’ll see because she’s got. I went, I went and looked her whole. I watched her Whole catalog of music videos going all the way back to the first. First album when she was 11 years old. And there’s silly stuff. There’s like she. She covers one eye with a pineapple. But I’m kind of like, I don’t know. Was that, Is that something to condemn her over? I don’t really know. But her, her first real album, her first full album was called Eyes Wide Open, which obviously in that Reddit post they tied to Eyes Wide Shut, you know, and if she’s truly a Scientologist, that adds more mystery to this thing, because Tom Cruise, obviously in Eyes Wide Shut, and there’s a whole sort of subtext in Eyes Wide Shut about Scientology when you find out that Kubrick’s daughter was a Scientologist and you see the supposed reference to the naval officer, which is supposed to be L. Ron Hubbard, you know, the founder of Scientology and all this stuff. But in that video for Eyes Wide Open that Sabrina Carpenter was in there, she’s. There’s like various sketches of like eyeballs that she’s doing in a book, right? So there’s more of that all seeing eye sort of theme. In that Reddit post, they claimed that the music video was filmed at Park Plaza Hotel, which they claim is a lodge for the Order of the Elks. At first I couldn’t verify that. So when I recorded the show, I was like, I can’t verify that. I don’t know, maybe.

But since then I’ve been able to like verify. I’m like, oh, okay. That really is.

So it’s. That’s. That’s a real thing. That really was filmed in a sort of freemasonic type type environment.

[01:52:04] Speaker C: Now what about this part of the claim where it says this Park Plaza Hotel was originally known as elks Lodge Number 99, was built as a lodge for a secret to Masonic style fraternity known as the Benevolent and Protective Order of Elks, which counted a number of extremely powerful people among its members, including.

[01:52:22] Speaker A: Six presidents completely unrelated. But Barry Keoghan in Salburn, during the Midsummer Night’s Dream sort of sequence, he’s wearing the. The sort of elk stag horns.

[01:52:32] Speaker C: There you go. And taking it back. You know, Michelle Lammy said that they initially hooked up with Travis Scott to make him some kind of like studio in a box he could take on the road with them. And one of the things they made for him was a desk chair where the back of it was an antler.

[01:52:52] Speaker A: Yeah, that’s right.

That’s right. Now, the Sabrina Carpenter thing with that video, what’s what’s interesting with the Eyes Wide Shut connection is that the Redditor found is a good point, is that at the end of Eyes Wide Shut, there’s a scene where they’re taking their daughter Helena to the toy store and she plays with a bassinet. And, and she says, I could put Sabrina in here.

And I had never caught that. I actually re watched that part of the movie to make sure that was true. And that’s what she says. And people are like, well, what if. Is that a reference to Sabrina Carpenter? You know, and then there’s also the side theory that the bassinet is the same one used in Rosemary’s Baby. At the, you know, in Rosemary’s Baby they sort of have this satanic Antichrist child so that they’re. They piece it together and say, what if Sabrina Carpenter is the Antichrist? You know?

[01:53:44] Speaker C: Right. If you don’t mind, let me just read from this post. So it is from a deleted account, so we can’t credit anybody. But the, this. I took down this whole thing because it really, it closes the loop really well, like with these details and the, the synchro mysticism of this loop.

So this person says, let’s return to the first single on that album of hers, Eyes Wide Open, filmed in the Elks Lodge 99. No doubt the first thing that jumps out to you is the song. Song’s title matches with Eyes Wide Shut. You got the connection to Tom Cruise. I’m skipping along. So is there anything else that might connect her with the film Eyes Wide Shut? Well, Hollywood director Roger Avery has spoken about how at the end of Eyes Wide Shut, the two main characters, Alice and Bill, allow their daughter Helena to be taken away by two shady men who have been in the background of various scenes throughout the film. But before this grim ending, Helena looks at an old fashioned pram, which Avery describes as the Rosemary’s Baby bassinet, which he claims is totally Kubrick saying something. And indeed, it does look very much like the pram featured in the iconic poster for Rosemary’s Baby. But what does Helena say when she leans over the pram? She says, I could put Sabrina in here. Then she runs on and picks up a Barbie. The Barbie in question is the 1996 Sugar Plum Fairy Barbie from the Nutcracker collection. Let’s unpack this a bit. Is there any significance to Helena saying, I could put Sabrina in here? Well, there is, of course the fact that the video for Sabrina Carpenter’s song Feather begins with Carpenter’s name written in the same font and color as the Rosemary’s Baby title. There’s also the fact that Carpenter was born only a couple of months before the film’s release, so that Helena could be talking about her as if she is the baby on the way. And then there is the story of Rosemary’s Baby, which is about a man who allows his child to be born as the Antichrist in return for Hollywood fame. Then there’s the fact that director Roman Polanski is a child rapist and is well known to have been interested in the occult. His wife, Sharon Tate, was murdered while she was pregnant, just a year after the release of Rosemary’s Baby. Polanski happened to be away at the time. The official stories that the Manson family murdered Tate and her friends because the previous occupants of the house had wronged him. Some, however, have suggested that Polanski was somewhat involved with the Manson Family. Was Carpenter planted like Rosemary’s baby in the film, prepared for months or even years in advance? This all seems like a fairly big stretch. But what about the fact that the very same year that Kubrick released Eyes Wide Shut, Polanski released the Ninth Gate? Just like Eyes Wide Shut, it’s about a clandestine satanic cult. And just like Eyes Wide Shut, it features a satanic ritual scene. The scene was filmed at the Chateau de Ferris, which was built for the Rothschilds and is famous for its strange parties. Incidentally, the exterior scene of the Somerton mansion and Eyes Wide Shut, where the satanic ritual takes place, is meant More towers. James Mayor de Rothschild commissioned Chateau de Faris to be another meant More, but twice the size. And what about the fact that Satan is incarnated in the Ninth Gate as a nameless, young, pretty blonde woman?

Perhaps this is all confirmation bias. Perhaps I’m seeing patterns where they aren’t. But there is at least one more thing that bugs me. As mentioned in the final scene of Eyes Wide Shut, after Helena looks at the Rosemary’s Baby pram, she picks up a Sugar Plum Fairy Barbie doll. The Sugar Plum Fairy is a character in the ballet the Nutcracker, which is about a collection of dolls that come to life. Carpenter, of course, has featured voodoo dolls in her music videos, and indeed, she often looks very doll like. The idea of a living doll also seems to resonate with Monarch programming. But there’s something more.

In her Netflix Christmas special, A Nonsense Christmas with Sabrina Carpenter, There’s a very odd moment near the middle of the special, the special’s duration, a scene ends, and we are left alone with Carpenter in a kitchen for no Apparent reason, she picks up a knife and stares at the tip of it as if she is hypnotized. The tune playing in the background dance of the goddamn Sugar Plum Fairy.

[01:58:02] Speaker A: Oh.

[01:58:05] Speaker C: That was a long way around, but man, I think that that guy sticks the land in there.

[01:58:09] Speaker A: Yeah, that’s pretty legendary Reddit post for sure, because like most of those conspiracy Reddits aren’t that good. That one was pretty good.

Now something I can add to that, that I found when I was doing my research on it, that Sabrina Carpenter was in an ad for the 2024 Paris Olympics.

And in it she’s talking to a blue bird. And I realize this is a sensational claim, but the reason I bring it up is because in her videos she does have these sort of MK Ultra symbolism throughout the videos of like the butterfly and the eyes sort of doing the spiral and all this crazy stuff. But she’s talking to this blue bird, which. The idea here is that MK Ultra was originally called Project Bluebird because it was supposed to be a program for, you know, a truth serum to make prisoners sing like a bird was the idea.

So, so I, I, you know, that’s just something else I could sort of lump into that. That growing theory that. That was pretty good.

Hell yeah.

[01:59:02] Speaker C: Very, very interesting. So it seems like she is a strange archetype. I think it’s very provocative to add in the idea that she would be born under the conditions in which to try to create an archetype of demon or an Antichrist figure.

There are apparently, you know, that’s what the Babylon working was about. There are these rituals at the right time where you can kind of use the sky clock astrology and do the right thing and impregnate a woman under these specific conditions to draw down a powerful demon into a human vessel and then have that be born.

I hesitate to even say what I’m thinking, but.

[01:59:41] Speaker A: Well, it’s not too much of a leap, you know, because, because, you know, because Jack Parsons like to bring it back to what you’re complaining about. Jack Parsons and L. Ron Hubbard were doing those, those Babylon workings together. So, I mean, Jack Parsons or L. Ron Hubbard specifically Elrond Hubbard knew about this Incan in. In incarnation of the, the Whore of Babylon, the Scarlet Woman, you know. So if Sabrina Carpenter is in league with the Scientologists, like maybe there’s like a dark inside group of Scientologists that are trying to do this sort of thing because L. Ron Hubbard maybe continued that, that mission of Jack Parsons.

[02:00:20] Speaker C: Yeah, that makes a lot of Sense to me. And so I am gonna say this, but in the long history of doing this show, I’ve only gotten a few, like, cease and desist scary messages. Do not talk about this thing. And one of them was from the widowed husband of Tracy Twyman, who saw on my subreddit somebody, not me, inquiring about Tracy’s her, her child. And, you know, a lot of people love Tracy Twyman’s work. Great, fine.

But people should look into who she used to pal around with maybe before she had a career as a podcast guest. And it’s a lot of occult people, and maybe people should look into who her original husband was, the father of this child. And maybe people should look into the potential that she was involved in this very same sort of experimentation and that her offspring was born under similar conditions. And I don’t have any idea. All I know is that this is one of the things that got me a really nasty, intimidating legal letter. And I basically wrote back and said, I don’t control the forum, I don’t control Reddit. What a person wants to write on Reddit, you can go take that up with them. It’s very well known when she wrote Clock Shavings, she wrote about her personal experimentation, contacting the biblical Cain and contacting Baphomet using all of these occult tools, including the Ouija board. And then she wrote that book.

[02:01:57] Speaker A: Book.

[02:01:57] Speaker C: So we’re already talking about a person who goes full throttle into the occult to try to experiment or get insight or see if this stuff is real. You know, I don’t think she’s a bad person, but could her, her younger self have also done an experiment with a husband who was a cult adjacent and thought, hey, let’s see that, See what happens and try this. You know, I don’t want anything. I don’t. I’m not trying to speak negative of a child out there who has no control over the conditions in which they are born, but I find that interesting. That’s all.

[02:02:30] Speaker A: Yeah, that is interesting.

[02:02:31] Speaker C: It’s all alleged. I know nothing about it. Caveat, caveats, etc. Etc. This is the plus hour. Don’t clip it, blah, blah, blah. I don’t know. But, you know, look into it.

[02:02:43] Speaker A: I the only one, you know, I was familiar with Tracy’s work, obviously, and I think it’s probably. I heard her on your show, I think, or Freeman or somebody, and she, she was one of those people that I was trying to get a hold of. And we actually exchanged an email because I was going to get her on my show. And then, you know, she passed. But one of my listeners sent me a copy of Genuflect, which you can’t find anymore. Yeah, her. Her sort of non fiction or her fictional novel. Fictional and loose quotes, I guess. I haven’t read it yet. It’s sitting over here and I’m like, I’m dying to read it one of these days. But it’s a pretty big book.

[02:03:18] Speaker C: Yeah, well, it’s all about the anal birth of the Monk list.

[02:03:21] Speaker B: This.

[02:03:22] Speaker A: Oh, interesting.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

[02:03:25] Speaker C: You know, this is, this is where it goes.

That was another tangent. I can’t seem to stay focused, especially when we’re under the. The time clock here. But that is the Sabrina Carpenter loop. Is there anything to say about Ariana Grande? I went down a little rabbit hole with her based on the post you did, where she was in this Brighter Days Ahead video which kind of covers some very MK Ultra eternal sunshine adjacent memory erasure. And it’s full of symbolism. People go look at Isaac’s post on this. But another child star, a Nickelodeon child star, which is featured heavily in the quiet on the set stuff with Dan Schneider and her doing all this vaguely sexual stuff like letting donut glaze spill on her lips and having to deep throw to pickle whatever he was making this child do.

The thing I found interesting is a claim that her and Pete Davidson sacrificed Mac Miller. And I thought, what? So I looked into the timeline. Ariana and Mac Miller broke up in May of 2018, and Miller passed away in September of the same year. Ariana Grande and Pete Davidson dated and were engaged in 2018. Their whirlwind romance began in May of 2018 and they were engaged by June. However, the relationship ended in October of the same year.

So what the hell? Pete Davidson sweeps in, takes his girl, gets engaged to her, and then Mac Miller dies and he breaks off the engagement. What?

[02:04:59] Speaker A: Well, there’s no doubt Pete Davidson sold his soul to the devil. There’s no way this guy should be pulling as many chicks as he’s pulling.

[02:05:06] Speaker C: Right? Just because you remove the tattoos doesn’t mean that the deals aren’t still in place, Pete.

[02:05:12] Speaker A: Exactly. Yeah, Ariana Grande is one of those people I’ve been picking up. She got my first YouTube channel torched. But yeah, I’ve been talking about her videos for a long time and she had, she had various sort of like symbolism of MK Ultra stuff. You know, this, this, the basic stuff people point out, like the butterfly and the eye and all that stuff. But then she had this New sort of short movie on YouTube called, what’s it called? Brighter Days Ahead. And it starts out, she’s burning her personal effects. And this is. I. This holds some kind of energetic field for occultists. In fact, like I said, I was. I watched Texas Chainsaw Massacre in the theaters last night. It was like a big to do, you know, because they released it for one night. I, I watched it with new eyes and I, I realized there’s an occult lesson to be had in Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I never realized it when I, you know, I’ve seen a movie countless times, but there, there’s this heavy talk about astrology that sets up the whole, the whole movie and, and Saturn being in retrograde. And they pick up this hitchhiker and he’s like a total weirdo. And he takes this photo of the guy in the wheelchair, I think his name was Franklin. And he wants Franklin to pay him for the photo. And he’s like, I’m not paying for this photo. So the, the hitchhiker dude like lights it on fire, which is reminiscent of this Ariana Grande clip. And, and from there the, the, the hitchhiker like puts a blood sort of sigil on the side of the van. Texas Chainsaw. And obviously things spiral out of control. Not good things happen.

But the Brighter Days Ahead video is. It’s kind of like the eternal sunshine of the spotless mind, where you can erase bad memories or select good memories for. For later. You know, is like the whole sort of storyline, you see, you know, the familiar symbolism. She’s wearing the checkerboard, black and white stuff. They go through a bunch of her memories and like each memory is like a different sort of like music video because it’s a set of like, I don’t know, four or five music videos. Anyway, the whole point is, it’s about this whole idea of like, memories, memory retrieval, suppressing memories, that sort of thing. And this is obviously all referencing the project of MK Ultra. You know, that was the exact idea was that they were trying to study dissociative identity states and alter egos. And if you could brainwash someone to do, go do an assassination and then furthermore, if you could get them to forget that memory so they didn’t even know they would do it. And then Ariana Grande was in the news talking about, at the same time talking about how she has full memory loss of several years of the beginning her career.

[02:07:42] Speaker C: Yeah.

[02:07:43] Speaker A: And you know, I, you just look at all this stuff in her, her family, her. Her parents had, they were part of McCann Communications, which is part of like military industrial complex stuff. So, I mean, kind of a loose one there. I don’t see any hardcore evidence to suggest she’s been MK’d ultra. But I mean, the story lines and the things she’s saying point to that sort of thinking.

[02:08:05] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, I, I thought the whole thing stuck the landing when she actually came out and said, I have a few missing years from the beginning of my career. I can’t remember at all. You know who else sells missing time is Frankie Muniz, another child actor now. Well, yeah, they say, I mean, they say he was in a race car accident and he now has missing memories and he doesn’t remember his time on the show Malcolm in the Middle at all. Or maybe he got by a couple people who then got prominent careers afterwards. I, I don’t know. I don’t know how these things happen.

[02:08:37] Speaker A: But wow, man, I didn’t know that.

[02:08:39] Speaker C: This, this really is always a pleasure. I love you in a completely hetero Christian brotherhood kind of way, but I, I, you know, a lot of things. We’ll have to talk again. There’s more on the, on the plate here we didn’t get to. We got a new Jordan Peele movie that looks like it’s going to get into the occult initiation of the celebrity culture. We got a new Spielberg UFO film. We gotta. We’re gonna be busy guys in the next 12 months. But you’ve really been crushing it lately. Very prolific. Always doing stuff, let people know what they should check out. You got The Substack, the YouTube channel, the podcasts. Hit them.

[02:09:21] Speaker A: Yeah, the, the Reliable is the podcast. Occult symbolism and pop culture, all the other things are, you know, I’m at the whims of whoever wants to cancel me and torch my account. So, you know, by all means, follow them. You know, Instagram’s been pretty good to me at Isaac Weishop, so you can follow me there and then. Yeah, the podcast is a cult symbolism in pop culture. You can find it on everything.

I’ve got a Patreon when you’re ready to, you know, break free of the pesky ads that I make my free feed losers suffer through. So be sure to check that out when, when the time is ready. And you’ve, you’ve, you’re ready to commit because I’ve got just hundreds of bonus episodes now. I do bonus episodes for the Patreon and there’s a 55 episode Twin Peaks Deep Dive that’s more Twin Peaks occult symbolism than anyone could handle. In fact, I’m writing the book about it right now, so. And then I’m going to write the Dark Enlightenment book probably early next year. So yeah. Oh and then all my books are on Amazon narrated on Audible under Isaac Weishaupt. So pick your. Pick your favorite sort of method of taking in my nonsense and go for it. Thanks. Thanks again, Greg. You’re the man, dude. I appreciate you.

[02:10:25] Speaker C: Ah, you are the man. Thank you for remembering us little people on your meteoric rise through the ranges of conspiracy commentators.

Keep up the great work and take care.

[02:10:36] Speaker A: Thanks.

[02:10:41] Speaker D: Dark Enlightenment be damned. Another new term for transhumanistic technocracy. As if we didn’t have enough.

But hey, if they self identify as the Dark Enlightenment, who am I to question it? Especially these days.

[02:10:57] Speaker C: But you know, it is always great.

[02:10:58] Speaker D: To get an update from Isaac. He’s one of the OGs that I’ve really stayed in touch with and talked to shop with off the air. And he’s just a good guy.

[02:11:08] Speaker C: I like Jay Dyer too.

[02:11:10] Speaker D: He’s more of the academic flavor, but he’s also more rigid in his Christianity. I don’t mean for that to be an insult at all.

[02:11:20] Speaker C: Jay is also very funny and appreciates good humor.

[02:11:23] Speaker D: I’m only saying they really are the two main figures in that pop culture.

[02:11:29] Speaker C: Slash occult analysis wheelhouse house.

[02:11:31] Speaker D: Jay is also more on the movie side and Isaac is more on the music.

I don’t know why I’m going down this road of comparing them so aggressively.

I like both Isaac and I have a good rapport and it’s good to talk to him every so often. That’s it.

And the catalyst for this was the Diddy trial. And that is why I reached out and I wanted to wrap a bow around that because we did talk about it the last time he was here.

[02:11:58] Speaker C: Cause it was just starting and we.

[02:11:59] Speaker D: Were like, wow, I can’t believe this is really happening.

And we always want these things to be bigger than they are and we want more to be revealed, but there is often a bit more in the details for those who actually do pay close attention. And I know Isaac is that guy, so figured it was worth talking about because this is the best we get when it comes to exposing these networks.

For my money, I think the biggest thing in this episode is the very Pizzagate adjacent network of freaks that we talked about.

We got into it a bit in the free show, but this is a great example of why I’m sometimes really happy that we do have the free plus split because we went deeper into some of this. So called art that these Chapman freaks are auctioning off for six figures.

Little toddler statues with a dick nose and an asshole mouth. Really twisted.

And it is episodes like this one where I feel a little bit bad and somewhat awkward subjecting the poor guys in the studio editing booth to this stuff.

Because usually they’re just trying to edit some promo video for a real estate agent. And then they got me on the schedule every so often, often throwing out stuff like this.

But I did send them the images and asked them to put these statues on the screen at that part of the conversation, because I don’t want it to be hypothetical. I want everyone to see exactly what we’re talking about.

And this part of the conversation did come up organically right at the one hour mark, which is great because I do think these images would probably get this episode taken off YouTube and get me another strike.

I’m not trying to be dramatic. We also know that conversations about vaccines are more likely to be censored than the bizarre Elsa gate adjacent cartoons that they have on there. But I don’t think anyone would blame me for being a bit nervous to have that stuff in the free show.

But anyway, if you’re a free listener and you’re curious, you only have to Google Chapman Brothers face.

[02:14:09] Speaker C: One word.

[02:14:12] Speaker D: And you’ll see what I’m talking about.

And looking at it again, if someone pays a hundred grand for this stuff, they probably do put their dick in that hole, right?

I would say that these people who purchase this should be investigated.

But I know the argument. Yeah, bizarre taste in art is no crime.

[02:14:33] Speaker C: Some of the nicest people I know.

[02:14:35] Speaker D: Love gory slasher aesthetics for some reason.

Definitely not my thing. But when you get this weird torture porn art of children and it’s circling around the elite class and sold at these auctions for insane prices, I think we know what’s going on.

Even if there’s nothing we can do about it. At least acknowledging it and being like, hey, there is kind of a line, right?

[02:15:06] Speaker C: I mean, something’s wrong with the psychology.

[02:15:08] Speaker D: Of a person who would make that stuff and then support art for those kind of insane prices. But, you know, whatever. Very interesting rabbit hole. So, yeah, the first hour set the stage and the second hour dove us.

[02:15:23] Speaker C: Right off of it.

[02:15:25] Speaker D: The CCRU stuff was really interesting too. Probably need to go further on that.

Balenciaga and the Chapman Brothers, lots of wild stuff in that second hour. Me and Isaac have been doing this a while. We know how to bring the heat. Sign up for plus if you want to hear More ad free and action packed. Help me help you and get twice as much show for as low as 8 bucks a month. Links right in the show notes tokenized podcast link for your app. So you don’t even need the username and password stuff anymore. It’s basically magic. The higher side chats.com okay, and let me also say this. After I recorded this episode, I got curious about some things we talked about and I did some follow up research and guys, I went too far. This happens every couple of years.

I went too far.

I did not realize that there are telegram channels that are very raw, probably way closer to dark web content than anything else that’s easily accessible.

And I wanted to see more about that artist who made the image on Jay Z and Ellen’s hoodies that we talked about.

The Castaway Wilson imagery, which I really do think is a method of flaunting this stuff because Tom Hanks is a freak too. Is that a Spielberg movie? I’d have to look that up. But what I saw claimed to be the source image for the this stuff. It’s basically a screen capture or it seems like a frame of a video that is allegedly out there where a little girl’s face is cut off and worn by allegedly supposedly, according to the Internet, Hillary and Huma.

And I don’t know, I don’t think this shit has only happened once anyway, so I don’t know if that, that exact video has been kind of twisted around for political purposes.

But what I saw looked like a photograph of a skinless face of a little girl. And the eye is there, just the same composition as that sketch on the hoodies.

And it really disturbed me. And it’s been a few days now, but God, it burned itself into my head and I could not get into a good mood for a couple days. I wish I had not seen it. It took a chunk of my soul or something.

It’s one thing to talk about this stuff, but when you see it and realize you can’t do anything about it and these people are completely untouchable, it’s just tough.

You don’t want to see that.

I didn’t even want to tell my wife because I don’t want her to even think about that.

[02:18:10] Speaker A: That.

[02:18:10] Speaker D: But what can we do really, but hug our own kids and try to be our best selves and appreciate life.

I don’t even really want to talk about it anymore, but I thought it was important to say because I don’t know when else I would say it, but just be careful how far you go, hmm, I’ll move on. But the story with this video is that it was on the Weiner laptop and that when cops saw this and investigators saw this, they were so deeply disturbed that a lot of them quit their jobs and they say, say some committed suicide. I don’t know about that part. Seems convenient for those out there who want fewer people to have seen the evidence.

Convenient suicides, you know, a theme lately on the higher side, chats. But definitely I understand quitting your job or being asked to be reassigned to even traffic patrol or something because you can’t be looking at this all the time.

Okay, moving on.

So the last show was with Janice McAfee, THC’s first in studio guest.

I am really glad it worked out and it ended up being content that was personal and fresh and that made it more interesting to be in person, I think. And I do feel for her loss. I appreciate her thick skin and willingness to talk about all the theories and speculation.

It’s also a show, the only one I can remember that cut off in.

[02:19:39] Speaker C: The middle of my damn wrap up.

[02:19:41] Speaker D: It is always something, right?

So this happened on the export. The guys at the studio said there was a power outage overnight and they exported the show. You know these things, they take forever. So you, you set it and you go out at 5pm and you come back the next day and it’s exported. And I guess it didn’t go all.

[02:20:00] Speaker C: The way through and no one caught.

[02:20:01] Speaker D: It until I saw someone bring it up in the comments. So you didn’t really miss much. It was just like 12 more minutes of me rambling on. But of course there had to be a caveat with that show, right? I was so excited to get it out. Of course something goes wrong and I couldn’t really fix it on the video. It wasn’t worth it to me to re upload it to YouTube once there’s already a thing happening. And then I had bad video compression issues here at home. It was a 16 gigabyte file and that’s too big for the plus streaming platform platform.

So I basically just fixed the free and plus audio shows and I’m just saying let’s move on from that. You know, a little annoying, but hey, if you really want to hear that last 12 minutes, it’s there in audio form. As for the rating though, I’m glad it was well liked. It’s sitting at a 4.8 right now and that’s about as high as it can go. So I’m just glad it was well received.

Pretty interesting, especially the plush show where she looked right at the camera and made her plea to the code breakers to keep combing over the whack token. And John’s Twitter feed from that time.

That’s good content.

I probably should clip that. But she really did sell it and she was great.

And I don’t wanna badger you about plus, but hey, if you like what.

[02:21:27] Speaker C: I’m doing, you’re missing half the show.

[02:21:29] Speaker D: Without plus and half’s kind of a lot.

I am happy to say I only get paid directly from people who buy the ticket and take the ride and.

[02:21:40] Speaker C: Enjoy what we’re doing here.

[02:21:42] Speaker D: And if you respect that, then, you know, buy the ticket and take the ride. All right, so we have come to the meetup calendar. Let’s see what’s going on.

Wednesday, September 10th, Dayton, Ohio at the Canal Street Arcade and Deli. September 14th, Austin, Texas, Sour Duck Market. September 15th, Auckland, New Zealand at Gail Breath’s Ale House.

September 21st, we have one at Neff Brewing in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

And September 28th, Portland, Oregon at the Bunk Bar. Okay, okay.

So I know I bitched about wanting to see more events. We do have a couple more events.

[02:22:25] Speaker C: And there’d probably be even a few more.

[02:22:27] Speaker D: But I found out we also had a glitch on the website with the captcha thing. It was keeping people from posting and man, I hate captchas. But I guess it’s something we can’t remove or everyone would remove it.

So that is the next thing on the list. Got to fix the captcha for the meetup website. If you tried to make an event and had a problem with it, try again in like a week or so and we should be back in business.

All right, well that is the show. Big thanks to Isaac. Show him some love if you like his work and dedication to this really dark stuff that he does.

Spend a lot of time trying to suss out and package for people so they have a better understanding of how the world really works.

And yeah, it’s tough work to do, so give him an Atta boy. Thank you for listening. Take care of you and yours.

I’ve done my part.

[02:23:21] Speaker C: Your move.

[02:23:22] Speaker D: Pedo art peddlers, entertainment industry traffickers and frazzled drip freaks.

Your fuckin.

[02:23:32] Speaker B: There’s darkness everywhere Right on up to the edge of the light A cold and persistent force it is, Lord knows not hard to find we get dropped in this place where the dice decide to land It’s a goddamn freaking miracle if we get a decent hand.

[02:24:02] Speaker C: So.

[02:24:02] Speaker B: Be thankful if you’re born on the right side of some random object, arbitrary man made imaginary life. And be grateful if you happen to see yourself born into a decent, even boring family.

We get proud when sometimes it’s just luck we are free to go sometimes when we pretend we’re stuck. Being humble never hurt taking what you see.

You might not pat your own back too hard if you know how bad it could be.

Just be thankful if you’re born on the right side of some random, arbitrary man made imaginary life.

And be grateful if you happen to see yourself born into a decent, even boring family.

[02:25:53] Speaker A: Sam.