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On today’s episode of the Occult Symbolism and Pop Culture with Isaac Weishaupt podcast we start talking about Catcher in the Rye! We’ll walk through the whole book and I’ll point out lots of symbolism and messaging that lends itself to a theory that the main character Holden Caulfield is a MKULTRA mind controlled Incel killer abused sexually (possibly trafficked) and mentally by MKULTRA scientists. We’ll touch on symbolism of the Joe Atwill Freemason conspiracy theory, I’ll point out the connections to secret society I discovered with a coded reference to Skull and Bones 322, his “people shooting hat”, sex obsession, violent fantasies, Luigi Magione connections and more!

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[00:00:00] Have you ever read the book Catcher in the Rye? It’s coated with symbolism of MK
Ultra sexual abuse, secret societies and undertones of a sex obsessed incel mass murderer
named Holden Caulfield. And today I’m going to walk you through the entire book and prove to
you how people like Mark David Chapman could turn into mind control killers of John Lennon.
I’ve been researching the occult full time since 2011 and you’re listening to occult symbolism in
pop cult.
[00:00:33] I’ve been talking about this episode for months now.
[00:00:36] Today we’re going to walk through the entire book, Catcher in the Rye. I’m going to
point out lots of symbolism and messaging that lends itself to a theory that the main character,
Holden Caulfield, is an MK Ultra mind control incel killer obsessed with sex, possibly trafficked
himself, mentally controlled by MK Ultra scientists. We’re going to touch on the symbolism of the
free Masonic conspiracy that Joe Atwill discussed.
[00:01:04] And I’ll point out all the connections that I found with secret societies, coded
references to skull and bones322, what the real meaning is of his people shooting hat, his
obsession with sex and violent fantasies, connections with Luigi Mangione and so much more.
This is a story about how these nerds are going to kill us. All right?
[00:01:29] No, not the Nerd Reich. This is just plain old run of the mill in cell nerds turning into
killers.
[00:01:37] All right, now this is part one and if you’ve never read the book. I got you, fam. We’re
going to go through the whole thing today and I’m going to read you the passages that I found
relevant to this argument. And conspiracy.
[00:01:54] I am going to put a nail in the coffin of this Catcher in the Rye conspiracy. Everyone
points it out, everyone talks about it. We’re gonna do a deep dive and actually thoroughly go
through it and explain what I think is going on. I don’t know if my theory lines up with everyone
else’s because you’ll notice there’s lots of conspiracies about this book.
[00:02:16] And I don’t know that anyone’s done it this way. I mean, maybe.
[00:02:21] All I know is that this is what I’m going to do for you, for the audience, all right?
[00:02:26] And we’re talking about this because this book is part of pop culture history.
[00:02:31] It’s oftentimes required reading in high school.
[00:02:35] It’s one of the most read books in all of human history.
[00:02:39] People like Lee Harvey Oswald, Oprah Winfrey, and you know, the aforementioned
Mark David Chapman, of course he was obsessed with it. He had it on him when he killed John
Lennon. He self identified himself as the main character, Holden Caulfield.
[00:02:56] Robert John Bardo was carrying it when he murdered Rebecca Schaeffer.
[00:03:00] The book is featured in Six Degrees of Separation. It’s featured in Mel Gibson’s
Conspiracy theory movie and more. And what sparked my interest here, because I actually
never read the book. It wasn’t required reading in my school.
[00:03:15] People keep saying this, required reading. I believe them. I guess we didn’t read it.
We read. I remember we read the Yearling about a deer. It was so boring. I wish I would have
read this crazy book because I was into, like, dark stuff back then. It probably would have turned
me into a killer, though. So maybe it’s good I didn’t.
[00:03:34] But the inspiration here was I interviewed Ryder Lee and Jay Widener because they
made Kubrick’s Odyssey 3.
[00:03:41] Go check out the interview. All right.
[00:03:45] I did it a couple months ago. And the crux of one of the main arguments for The
Kubrick Odyssey 3 documentary is that Catcher in the Rye plays an element, a role in the the
Shining. All right.
[00:03:59] And they talked a bunch about Catcher in the Ryan. I was like, I got to read this book
for myself. I don’t. You know, because, like, people keep pointing to it and mentioning it,
referencing it, and I’m just like, I don’t know anything about the book. I had no idea. I’m just
gonna read it.
[00:04:13] And it made me think.
[00:04:16] When I read it, I made me think, this is pretty wild. My mind was blown for a couple
reasons, you know, and because it was a. I’m not a. I’m not. I don’t love fiction books. Like,
they’re hard for me to read or for me to get into. I don’t know why. I’m a nonfiction guy, and this
book was very easy to digest.
[00:04:42] So I guess it was well written. I’m not a literature guy. I don’t really know.
[00:04:47] I thought it was easy to follow. It was easy to read. Good story. I mean, not good. You
know, an intriguing story that kept you reading.
[00:04:56] So I don’t know. I thought it was a good book. I’m like, okay, I see why everyone talks
about this. It’s like, really good. Good in the sense of easy to read and kind of keeps your
attention.
[00:05:05] But when you’re reading it, you can tell there’s something coded here. This isn’t the
overt story of Holden Caulfield. Isn’t where it ends. There’s so much residing underneath the
surface that was my take on it. And that’s why I want to walk you through the whole book.
[00:05:27] Now, first, I’m going to give you the overview. Obviously, plot spoilers, right? I don’t
know who hasn’t read Catch on the Rye besides my dumbass. Oh, and I’m gonna swear on this
because I got to read the passages from the book and I’m not going to filter it. So if you got little
ones, sensitive ears, tread carefully this. I’m going to read you the Wiki synopsis of the overview
of the book first so that you kind of know what we’re in for, because I’m going to kind of. I’m
going through my notes. All right. It’s kind of hard to explain, but I’m going to try to make sense
of the story as we go along.
[00:06:00] But kind of like Twin Peaks, I’m generally just going to pull out the elements that I
found pertaining to my conspiracy of occult symbolism here. Okay? Wiki says. Originally
intended for adults, it is often read by adolescents for its themes of angst and alienation and as a
critique of superficiality in society. The novel also deals with themes of innocence, identity,
belonging, loss, connection, sex and depression. The main character, Holden Caulfield, has
become an icon for teenage rebellion. Caulfield, nearly of age, gives his opinion on a wide
variety of topics as he narrates his recent life events.
[00:06:41] Yeah, I mean, that’s pretty accurate.
[00:06:46] So Holden, he’s the main character. He’s 16.
[00:06:49] When I read the book, I didn’t recall that being specified. It felt like he was in college
and he was on a break between semesters and trying to head home to New York City to be with
his family is kind of like the way I read it at first because I had no idea what the story was about.
[00:07:06] But apparently he’s 16.
[00:07:09] And. Yeah, I mean, the whole thing is his journey around town and meeting people
and perverts and sex and murdering folks. But you don’t really. You don’t really. It’s not overtly.
[00:07:22] I don’t know. You know what I’m saying? Anyway, so I’m going to walk you through
the book. I got a lot to get through, so we’re just going to move right into it. Okay.
[00:07:32] And again, this is part one, I’m going to go through the whole book. I’m going to point
out a couple things as we go.
[00:07:37] Part two, we’re going to dig deeper into who JD Salinger was and deep into some of
these conspiracies. All right. I’m Going to take a thorough look at Joe Atwell’s claims of the
Freemasonic deal, which I can support of some elements of that I found in my reading of this
book. I’ve got some. I’m excited to talk to you guys today about some of the things I found.
[00:07:58] Okay, so plot spoilers coming, yada yada. Let’s go. Chapter one.
[00:08:02] We’re introduced to the narrator, Holden Caulfield. In my notes. I. I have that he was.
That he’s 17.
[00:08:08] I should. I should recheck the book.
[00:08:11] Online, it says he’s 16, so I don’t know. Whatever he talks about. He had this lousy
childhood. Talks about his brother. He has an older brother named D.B. d.B. Wrote a book about
the secret goldfish.
[00:08:29] He says it was about this little kid that wouldn’t let anybody look at his goldfish
because he had bought it with his own money. It killed me.
[00:08:39] Now he’s out in Hollywood, D.B. being a prostitute. If there’s one thing I hate, it’s the
movies. Don’t even mention them to me.
[00:08:49] So he talks about Hollywood, right? Always in Hollywood is the place. Recall we did a
four hour deep dive on Diddy last year, I think. And we talked about Candy Michelle Johnson,
the adrenochrome witch author. And she talked about sex trafficking operations out in
Hollywood.
[00:09:08] This is in 1951. This book was published. Written in the late forties. Published in 51.
[00:09:17] All right. I think the only people talking about this kind of stuff back then was Kenneth
Anger in Hollywood Babylon.
[00:09:25] But he says one of the sentences I just read you. It said it killed me. And he. He says
this often throughout the. Like a mantra throughout the book.
[00:09:36] Okay, Chapter two. He goes to visit the dean of his high school and he’s get. He’s
getting kicked out of it, right?
[00:09:43] He talks about old people with disdain, talks about how gross they are.
[00:09:49] Talks about life being a game. Holden says it’s a game if you’re with the hot shots. If
you’re not, then there’s nothing. There is no game. Which I’m like, okay. I mean, that’s. That’s a
fair assessment. Critical of the elites. It’s a big club and we’re not invited kind of vibes, right?
George Carlin, the high school dean guy, talks about how the history. He failed the history class
because of some weird Egyptian essay that Holden wrote. I’m going to read you from the book.
He started handling my exam paper like it was a turd or something. We studied the Egyptians
from November 4 to December 2, he said you chose to write about them for the optional essay
question. Would you care to hear what you had to say?
[00:10:41] No, sir, not very much, I said. He read it anyway, though. You can’t stop a teacher
when they want to do something, they just do it.
[00:10:49] The Egyptians were an ancient race of Caucasians residing in one of the northern
sections of Africa.
[00:10:56] The latter, as we all know, is the largest continent in the eastern hemisphere.
[00:11:01] I had to sit there and listen to that crap. It certainly was a dirty trick. The Egyptians are
extremely interesting to us today for various reasons. Modern science would still like to know
what the secret ingredients were that the Egyptians used when they wrapped up dead people so
that their faces would not rot for innumerable centuries. This interesting riddle is still quite a
challenge to modern science in the 20th century.
[00:11:27] Take note to how the teacher says to Holden. He’s like, would you like to know what
you wrote? Why would they say that? Right.
[00:11:38] Why would he say that if he knew if he wrote it? He knows what he wrote. Unless he
was under some kind of mind control influence when he wrote it. All right, keep that in the back
of your mind as we go through the book, but let’s unpack an interesting find that I made here that
I’d like to add to the hall of fame of Catcher and the Rye Conspiracies. Unless someone already
did it, but I didn’t know about it. He says halfway between November 2nd and December 4th.
Well, do you know what day that is? That day is November 18th. November 18th is day number
322 of the year.
[00:12:16] We’ve done entire shows on this, talking about 3, 2, 2, the skull and bones number,
tying into Genesis, 3, 2, 2, you know, man becoming God.
[00:12:28] And of course, the Yale Skull and bones uses the 3, 2, 2 logo. And I, I’ll put a link in
the show notes for that episode where we, we dove deep into what that meant and how it could
just be the chapter of the the Brotherhood of Death.
[00:12:45] But it’s very important here, as we’re going to find out later, because Holden connects
us into secret societies and fraternities.
[00:12:52] Which one? Come on, brother. Skull and Bones.
[00:12:57] So we hear Holden’s been kicked out of a bunch of schools. This guy can’t get it
together. Right.
[00:13:03] Chapter three. Holden says he’s a great liar.
[00:13:07] And he talks about a hypocrite rich guy who’s always going on and on about Jesus.
He’s atheist. Plot spoiler. He’s atheist. And he talks about it a few times in the book.
[00:13:19] But Holden says he’s a great liar. He’s a sociopath. All right? And we’re listening to
his narration throughout this book. This is his version of events, which I’m going to argue that
what we’re gonna explore is that he’s actually murdering a bunch of people in this story. When I
read it, it felt like I was reading American Psycho. The movie, right?
[00:13:45] Which they’re remaking, by the way. I don’t know how I feel about that. But, hey, I’ll
watch it. I’m not a big hater of the remake thing. You know what I mean? Like, I don’t know. I’ll
give it a whirlwind. They generally don’t work out, but I don’t know, it’s something like. I’ll watch
it. Anyway, Holden’s talking about a bunch of books and he has this very bizarre, quote, unquote
funny book.
[00:14:11] He says, my brother gave me a book by Ring Lardner for my birthday just before I
went to Pence.
[00:14:19] It had these very funny, crazy plays in it. Then it had this one story about a traffic cop
that falls in love with this very cute girl that’s always speeding. Only he’s married to the cop, so
he can’t marry her or anything. Then this girl gets killed because she’s always speeding. That
story just about killed me. What I like best is a book that’s at least funny once in a while.
[00:14:44] I mean, is that funny if you’re a psycho murderer? Probably.
[00:14:54] And again with the. That story killed me, you know? He says it multiple times, like a
mantra.
[00:15:00] Then he talks about this guy named Ackley who comes into his room and is annoying
and gross. And that’s what I don’t understand about the story. It’s like, I thought he was in
college because he has a roommate. I’m like, wouldn’t you be at home if you were in high. In
high school?
[00:15:15] I don’t know. Don’t ask me.
[00:15:18] Guy named Ackley comes to his room and he’s annoying and gross. Ackley is making
fun of Holden’s hat.
[00:15:25] Now listen to this. He took another look at my hat while he was cleaning them up
home. We wear a hat like that to shoot deer in, for Christ’s sake. He said, that’s a deer shooting
hat.
[00:15:40] Like hell it is. I took it off and looked at it. I sort of closed one eye like I was taking aim
at it. This is a people shooting hat. I said, I shoot people in this hat.
[00:15:52] And that’s what. And that’s what Blows my mind is the things that I’ve seen in passing
and online about Catcher in the Rye.
[00:16:01] No one’s talking about how this is coded language for a psychopath murderer.
They’re just like, oh, it’s a coming of age story.
[00:16:10] I’m like, bro, maybe I. Maybe I drank too much conspiracy Kool Aid. But I’m like,
dude, this book is about murdering people. He literally says it.
[00:16:20] I shoot people in this hat. And then guess what? Throughout the story, he’s taking his
hat with him everywhere.
[00:16:26] Chapter four.
[00:16:29] Holden. He kind of keeps going on and on about these other boys that he talks to.
And he’s talking about their perfect build, how they’re good looking, they got these gorgeous
locks, and now they act all sexy.
[00:16:42] So you’re kind of like, is this dude gay?
[00:16:46] The point I’m pulling out here is that. Not that there’s a problem with being gay, the
point I’m trying to pull out is that he is suppressing his sexuality. And you find out later he’s a
virgin.
[00:16:56] He’s suppressing his sexuality voluntarily, involuntarily, we’re not sure.
[00:17:03] Then this other guy, Strad ladder, walks out.
[00:17:08] And Holden is. He kind of, like, obsesses for a minute, right? It’s very creepy. This is
what he says. I sat there for about a half hour after he left. I mean, I just sat in my chair, not
doing anything. I kept thinking about Jane and about Stradlater having a date with her and all. It
made me so nervous, I nearly went crazy.
[00:17:28] I already told you what a sexy bastard Stradlatter was. All of a sudden, Ackley barges
back in again through the damn shower curtains as usual. For once in my stupid life, I was really
glad to see him. He took my mind off the other stuff.
[00:17:45] What were you doing in that shower, bro? Thinking about how sexy this dude was.
Right? And again, I don’t care. This is the 50s, though. So, like, they coded some of that stuff,
I’m guessing. I don’t know.
[00:18:00] Again, my point is, Holden is a very sexually frustrated guy. Like, maybe he’s bi. I get
the feeling he’s bi, all right?
[00:18:14] And add the social unacceptance in the 50s of gay folks, and that adds, like, a level of
shame into it, which makes people act crazy.
[00:18:26] It’s a very mentally unhealthy society we’ve got, right, that creates all these
murderers.
[00:18:33] Instead of just being chill and, like, loving everyone, be like, yeah, man, like
consenting adults, do your thing, bro. Like, instead of being like that, it’s Got to be this whole,
like, shame and guilt and make people feel tortured and anguish. And then they get mad and
then they lash out. And then there’s like all these shootings, like it’s crazy.
[00:18:49] Then we found out Holden has a dead brother named Ali.
[00:18:53] And the night he died, Holden broke all the windows in his family station wagon with
his fist.
[00:19:00] And he talks about how the parents were going to have him psychoanalyzed, which I
argue they did. And I argue that they got. He got psychoanalyzed by an MK Ultra mind control
scientist.
[00:19:14] Strad Ladder gets back from his date and Holden tries to hit him. Blacks out from the
book. Strad Ladder kept taking these shadow punches down on my shoulder. He had his
toothbrush in his hand and he put it in his mouth. What’d you do? I said give her the time. In Ed
Banky’s goddamn car. My voice was shaking something awful. What a thing to say. Want me to
wash your mouth out with soap, did you? That’s a professional secret, buddy. This next part, I
don’t remember. So hot. All I know is I got it from the bed, like I was going down to the can or
something. Then I tried to sock him with all my might, right? Smacking the toothbrush so it would
split his goddamn throat open. Only I missed. I didn’t connect. All I did was sort of get him on the
side of the head or something. It probably hurt him a little bit, but. But not as much as I wanted.
It probably would have hurt him a lot, but I did it with my right hand and I can’t make a good fist
with that hand on account of the injury I told you about.
[00:20:16] Anyway, the next thing I knew, I was on the goddamn floor and he was sitting on my
chest with his face all red, that is. He had his goddamn knees on my chest and he weighed
about a ton. He had hold of my wrist, too, so I couldn’t take another sock at him. I’d have killed
him. So again, murder.
[00:20:33] Murder on my mind.
[00:20:36] So Holden ends up getting punched, and he’s bleeding. And he proceeds to put on
his hunting cap, his people shooting hat. And he takes a look in the mirror and starts laughing
very much. Robert De Niro. Taxi Driver Vibes. Okay? Which I think I’m sure people have
compared Taxi Driver to Catcher in the Rye.
[00:20:59] So now, Chapter eight. Holden’s walking around in the snow at night. He’s got his cap
on, he’s got blood all over his face.
[00:21:05] Gets on a bus, he meets a woman who turns out to be the parent of another student
at his school.
[00:21:11] And Holden lies about what his own name is and says that his name is Rudolph,
probably because his nose is all bloody, right?
[00:21:19] But he talks to this woman about how he actually knows her son. And they’re having a
siggy and. And he’s kind of gassing her up about how great her son is. And he’s totally lying,
right? Because he’s a liar, he’s a sociopath.
[00:21:34] And he knows that, you know, one way you can make a mother feel real good is
talking up her son. So he’s very manipulative.
[00:21:42] And we find out that he thinks she’s sexy.
[00:21:46] So he tells her that he’s got a tumor in his brain and he needs an operation and that’s
why he’s still in school.
[00:21:55] So, yeah, okay, next. Chapter nine. He gets off the bus. Now he’s at Penn Station.
He’s heading home.
[00:22:00] But he wants to get a hotel first for a couple of nights. And all this is. That’s why I was
so confused. I’m like, this guy’s 16 or 17. Says 17 in the book.
[00:22:09] Anyway, different times, right? In the 50s. So he goes to the hotel and he’s doing
some people watching from his window.
[00:22:19] He sees a guy putting on women’s clothes.
[00:22:24] And he says to the reader, he admits that he’s the biggest sex maniac you ever saw.
[00:22:31] Holden referring to himself.
[00:22:36] And he talks about how he doesn’t understand it.
[00:22:40] And then he’s like all revved up and he’s in the mood, so he calls a sex worker, but
she can’t meet him. Now he’s seeing a dude put on women’s clothes, cross dressing. And he
proceeds to talk about how he’s like this crazy sex maniac. And I. I assume that he’s interested
sexually and pretty much whatever at this point.
[00:23:05] Next chapter, we find out he’s got a sister named Phoebe.
[00:23:09] Says her favorite movie is 39 Steps. If you look that up. I never seen it. It’s a 1935 film
by Alfred Hitchcock about an organization of intelligence agents. Huh.
[00:23:21] Like the CIA? Like the MK Ultra ones, maybe.
[00:23:25] Anyway, he ends up going to a bar. It’s called the Lavender Room. He dances with
this girl. She’s not listening to him at all. She’s looking around while he’s talking to her. And this
is what, like, I was like, dude, this reads like American Psycho, you know, because he’s all
Patrick Bateman’s always like yelling. He’s like, I’m into murders. And what do you Say murders
and executions. And they’re like, oh, yeah, sounds good, buddy.
[00:23:47] And he says something in there that kind of matches up his whole incel vibe. He says,
every time they do something pretty, even if they’re not much to look at, or even if they’re sort of
stupid, you fall half in love with them. And then you never know where the hell you are. Girls,
Jesus Christ, they can drive you crazy. They really can drive you crazy. Okay, chapter 11. He
leaves the bar. He’s thinking about Jane again, that Strad Ladders girl.
[00:24:17] And turns out she was his neighbor growing up.
[00:24:20] And he implies that Jane had been abused while also being very cold and careless.
Because this guy’s a psychopath, right? To get what he wants, he says.
[00:24:34] So what I did was I went over and made her move on the glider so that I could sit
down next to her. I practically sat down in her lap, as a matter of fact. Then she really started to
cry. And the next thing I knew, I was kissing her all over, anywhere. Her eyes, her nose, her
forehead, her eyebrows and all her ears. Her whole face except her mouth and all. She sort of
wouldn’t let me go to her mouth. Anyway, it was the closest we ever got to necking. After a while,
she got up and went in and put on this red and white sweater she had that knocked me out, and
we went to a goddamn movie. I asked her on the way if Mr. Kuday.
[00:25:12] Kudahi, Mr. Kuday, that was the booze hound’s name. Had ever tried to get wise with
her. She was pretty young, but she had this terrific figure. And I wouldn’t have put it past that
coup d’ay bastard. She said no, though I never did find out what the hell was the matter. Some
girls, you practically never find out what’s the matter.
[00:25:34] And again, subtle, implied abuse, I think, of this underage girl.
[00:25:42] Then he goes to a nightclub called Ernie’s that his brother DB Used to go to before he
started prostituting himself in Hollywood. You know, just a casual. Read this old book.
[00:25:54] And Ernie himself is done playing. And you get more of this sort of disdain from
Holden about society in general. He says, you sure? You should have heard the crowd, though,
when he was finished, you would have puked. They went mad. They were exactly the same
morons that laugh like hyenas in the movies at stuff that isn’t funny. I swear to God, if I were a
piano player or an actor or something. And all those dopes thought I was terrific, I’d hate it. I
wouldn’t even Want them to clap for me? People always clap for the wrong things.
[00:26:26] So his disdain for humanity and society is supporting his off kilter thinking and
fantasies of murder and violence.
[00:26:38] Chapter 13.
[00:26:40] He walks home from Ernie’s and he feel. He starts talking about how he’s feel. He
feels like he’s yellow, right? Which is like a term they used for feeling like a coward.
[00:26:52] He says what you should be is not yellow at all. If you’re supposed to sock somebody
in the jaw and you sort of feel like doing it, you should do it. I’m just no good at it though. I’d
rather push a guy out the window or chop his head off with an axe, then sock him in the jaw. I
hate fist fights. I don’t mind getting hit so much, although I’m not crazy about it, naturally. But
what scares me most in a fist fight is the guy’s face.
[00:27:16] What? This guy’s crazy.
[00:27:20] But also, take note to the Church of Satan doctrine, right? If you sort of feel like doing
it, you should do it. You know, do what thou wilt kind of vibe.
[00:27:29] Of course, as you know, that’s not really the Aleister Crowley thought behind do what
thou wilt. But you get what I’m saying, right?
[00:27:40] Church of Satan is very much a social Darwinian labor anarcho libertarian kind of
thing.
[00:27:49] So he finally procures a sex worker, then talks about how he’s a virgin. Okay, that.
See, he’s a violent incel. I told you. And he gives another fake name. This time it’s Jim Steele.
[00:28:05] He’s been doing it all night at the bars. Fake names, right? Aliases, alter egos. This is
the fracturing of the mind. The dissociative identity disorder. Various alters can come up.
[00:28:15] We’ve talked about this countless times.
[00:28:19] My Eyes Wide Shut series, six part series. We talked about it because it’s. Stanley
Kubrick used heavy symbolism of going over the rainbow. That’s the idea of dissociating. You
know, it’s in wizard of Oz and so on and all these episodes. If you’re like, dude, I don’t know
what you’re talking about, go to illuminatiwatcher.com I got on the side margin or if you’re on a
cell phone, scroll all the way, you’ll see a big block that says index of every episode. And you
can do a control F search. And I’ve got every episode going back to 2014 listed on there. Okay.
If you’re on the Patreon, if you’re on the supporter feeds Patreon VIP section, Apple Premium.
You gotta scroll. Sorry, I don’t. I don’t have a way around it. So go to the Illuminati watcher, find
the year and month, and then scroll back on the app to that time. Okay? All right.
[00:29:09] And I’ll try to put a link in the show notes, by the way. Okay. All right, fine. I’ll put it in
my notes link for Eyes Wide Shut series, because they love it. There you go. Consider it done,
fam. All right, so he’s up in room 1222. He spells it out 1222.
[00:29:31] With the prostitute, right? And he says he’s 22 years old now. He’s lying to her still, of
course. What’s up with all the twos? 12. He’s in room 1222, says he’s 22 years old.
[00:29:44] And you’ll find this throughout the book. The last chapter, he looks at a clock and says
it’s 20 to 12.
[00:29:51] The word 20 shows up 22 times in the book.
[00:30:00] What’s the deal?
[00:30:02] The 20s and the twos and the one. I’m a. I got an idea. I’m going to float it in the
conclusion. Let’s keep going. All right, so he’s talking to the prostitute and a female. He says he
doesn’t even want to do anything. He just wants company, okay?
[00:30:19] And he claims that he had an offer operation on his spinal canal.
[00:30:25] Anyway, he ends up shorting her on the money. She calls him a crumb bum.
[00:30:30] Must have been a hard disk back in the 50s.
[00:30:33] And he has her leave. Doesn’t even say thank you. And he’s like, I’m happy I didn’t
pay you.
[00:30:41] So he’s kind of like, crazy, right, this guy? Chapter 14. He talks about being an atheist.
[00:30:48] Doesn’t like the 12 disciples.
[00:30:51] He’s not a Christian.
[00:30:54] I’m gonna read you. Take the disciples, for instance. They annoy the hell out of me, if
you want to know the truth. They were all right after Jesus was dead and all. But while he was
alive, they were about as much used to him as a hole in the head. All they did was keep letting
him down. I like anybody in the Bible better than the disciples, if you want to know the truth. The
guy I like best in the Bible next to Jesus was that lunatic and all that lived in the tombs and kept
cutting himself with stones. I like him 10 times as much as the disciples, that poor bastard.
[00:31:22] Whoa. This. This book was wanting all the smoke in the 50s, you know what I mean?
[00:31:30] All right, let’s Keep going. Maurice is the name of an elevator guy who act. Who was
the guy that.
[00:31:38] That Holden used to procure the hooker. All right, he shows up because he’s like, you
didn’t pay the hooker and. And slugs him and takes the money. He’s like, all right, Holden, take
that.
[00:31:52] And then Holden has this weird violent fantasy that he goes into.
[00:31:57] I wasn’t knocked out or anything though, because I remember looking up from the
floor and seeing them both go out the door and shut it. Then I stayed on the floor a fairly long
time, sort of the way I did with Strad ladder. Only this time I thought I was dying. I really did. I
thought I was drowning or something. The trouble was I could hardly breathe. When I did finally
get up, I had to walk to the bathroom all doubled up and holding onto my stomach and all. But
I’m crazy. I swear to God I am. About halfway to the bathroom, I sort of started pretending I had
a bullet in my guts. Old Maurice had plugged me. Now I was on the way to the bathroom to get a
good shot of bourbon or something to steady my nerves and help me really get into action. I
pictured myself coming out of the goddamn bathroom, dressed and all, with my automatic in my
pocket and staggering around a little bit.
[00:32:42] Then I’d walk downstairs. Instead of using the elevator, I’d hold onto the banister and
all with this blood trickling out of the side of my mouth a little at a time. What I’d do, I’d walk
down a few floors holding them onto my guts, blood leaking all over the place. And then I’d ring
the elevator bell. As soon as old Maurice opened those doors, he’d see me with the automatic in
my hand and he’d start screaming at me in this very high pitched yellow belly voice to leave him
alone. But I’d plug him anyway. Six shots right through his fat, hairy belly. Then I’d throw my
automatic down the elevator shaft after I’d wiped off all the fingerprints and all. Then I’d crawl
back to my room and call up Jane and have her come over and bandage up my guts. I pictured
her holding a cigarette for me to smoke while I was bleeding. And all the goddamn movies, they
can ruin you. I’m not kidding again. I think this is literal. I think he literally did this stuff.
[00:33:34] Then he kept going. He says what I really felt like, though, was committing suicide. I
felt like jumping out of the window, he says I probably would have done it too, if I’d been sure.
Somebody cover me up. As soon As I landed, I didn’t want a bunch of stupid rubbernecks
looking at me when I was all gory.
[00:33:54] Now, remember, in the MK Ultra storyline, a man named Frank Olson jumped to his
death in 1953 after MK Ultrahead Sidney Gottlieb supposedly dosed him. Allegedly.
[00:34:12] And that was two years after Catcher in the Rye was published.
[00:34:17] Now, fun fact, the hotel that Frank Olson jumped to his death was formerly known as
the Hotel Pennsylvania, which was featured in a Glenn Miller song called Pennsylvania 6 5000,
which is a reference to the phone numbers they used to use before. Area codes, whatever.
Right? And you actually heard that song in Twin Peaks. Remember, Leland was dancing to it.
And another episode, Sarah Miller says, it’s Glenn Miller night at the club.
[00:34:48] Very interesting.
[00:34:50] Chapter 15.
[00:34:52] He notes several times in the book that he hates the word grand because the word
grand is phony. It’s. And I’m like, is that some kind of MK Ultra trigger word? I don’t know.
[00:35:03] But he hates the word. He keeps saying it.
[00:35:06] So he’s leaving the hotel. This part’s actually just kind of funny. He says, I took a look
out the window before I left the room, though, to see how all the perverts were doing. But they all
had their shades down. They were the height of modesty in the morning.
[00:35:21] Pretty funny. Okay, so Holden’s father, we find out, is a corporate lawyer. So he
comes from money.
[00:35:28] Maybe a red flag, I don’t know.
[00:35:31] But he talks about how in the story Romeo and Juliet, he likes Mercutio.
[00:35:39] Mercutio. I don’t know how to say it. Mercutio more than he likes Romeo, because
Mercutio was smart and entertaining and he shouldn’t have died. It was Romeo’s fault. All right,
chapter 17. He heads to the Biltmore Theater to meet Sally for matinee.
[00:35:57] And he talks about looking at girls legs, you know, fantasizing. Sally shows up, and
during intermission, she goes to see a guy that she knew. And Holden gets all jealous and mad
and crazy, right?
[00:36:13] Then they go ice skating, and he’s ranting about how much he hates society. He
hates the cliques, he hates people’s obsession with cars. What’s the point of life? And. And he
starts getting real crude. And she’s. Sally’s like, I’m out of here. I want to leave this. You’re too
much. Right? But then he gets all apologetic and he admits that he’s a madman. He’s like, I’m a
madman. He says. He says he’s a madman 16 times in this book, okay, I think what we’re
getting is, like, mixes of literal story versus allegory or something.
[00:36:48] But he’s a madman. He’s a Madman. Killer, chapter 18.
[00:36:54] Sally bails on him.
[00:36:57] So he’s like, I’m gonna call Jane up. But she doesn’t answer. Then he goes to the
movies. But he goes. So he goes again, but this time by himself.
[00:37:04] He hates the movie, as usual, even though he kept saying he hates Hollywood, he
hates movies, he’s whatever. So he goes to a place called the Wicker Bar, which obviously
makes me think of the Wicker Man. And he goes there to meet Carl. And he starts thinking of
the military and the war because his brother, D.B. was in the army.
[00:37:25] And Holden talks about how he would hate to be in the military and says something
that made me think of Stanley Kubrick’s Dr. Strangelove. He says, anyway, I’m sort of glad
they’ve got the atomic bomb invented. There’s ever another war, I’m willing to sit right the hell on
top of it. I’ll volunteer for it. I swear to God I will.
[00:37:46] So you’ve got a lot of these Kubrickian connections, right? And it’s with the Shining,
with the. You know, when Wendy’s reading Catcher in the Ride, we talked about on that episode.
[00:37:58] And here, a direct reference to Dr. Strangelove, chapter 19.
[00:38:04] He’s talking to us about this guy Carl. And he was always talking about sex and all
kinds of perversions, we find out.
[00:38:12] And he knew about people that were gay.
[00:38:16] Talks about movie actors pretending to be gangsters and cowboys when they’re
actually, like, gay.
[00:38:21] Carl shows up, and Holden only wants to talk to him about those things. He’s
obsessed with that kind of stuff.
[00:38:29] But Carl, he says he’s dating this Chinese woman and he likes that the Chinese
culture views spirituality and the physical experience a certain way. And Carl tells Holden, like,
hey, man, you should go see a psychoanalyst and figure out how to have a better sex life. You’re
kind of crazy. And again, another reference to going to a therapist of sorts.
[00:38:52] Chapter 20.
[00:38:54] Holden is now fully drunk and he’s contemplating what it would look like if he was
dead. Fantasizing about death again. Chapter 21. Holden finally gets to his home that he grew
up in. Talks to his little sister, Phoebe. Dad’s out of town, by the way.
[00:39:11] And Phoebe’s like, why’d you come home so early, right? And she suspects that he
got kicked out of school again. And Phoebe’s right. Very astute. 10 year old.
[00:39:20] And he tells Phoebe about how he doesn’t like the school anyway. Why? Because he
can’t join the fraternity. He says everybody was always locking their door when somebody
wanted to come in. And they had this goddamn secret fraternity that was too yellow not to join.
[00:39:38] Recall earlier we Talked about the 322 coded reference, chapter 22.
[00:39:45] There’s only 26 chapters, so we’re almost there. Phoebe thinks that her dad is gonna
kill Holden for getting kicked out of yet another school.
[00:39:54] And she gives him grief for hating on everything.
[00:39:59] Then he says, you know what I’d like to be? You know what I’d like to be? I mean, if I
had my goddamn choice. What? Stop swearing.
[00:40:09] You know that song, if a body catch a body coming through the rye? I’d like.
[00:40:16] It’s. This is her interrupting. I’m doing my best, folks, all right? It’s if a body meet a
body coming through the rye. Old Phoebe said, it’s a poem by Robert Burns. I know it’s a poem
by Robert Burns. She was right, though. It is. If a body meet a body coming through the rye. I
didn’t know it then, though.
[00:40:37] I thought. I thought it was if a body, catch a body, I said, Anyway, I keep picturing all
these little kids playing some game in this big field of rye and all. Thousands of little kids, and
nobody’s around. Nobody big, I mean, except me. I’m okay. Are you with me, folks? Did you
catch that? Nobody’s around except me and all these little kids, all right? And I’m standing on the
edge of some crazy cliff. What I have to do, I have to catch everybody if they start going over the
cliff. I mean, if they’re running and they don’t look where they’re going. I have to come out from
somewhere and catch them. That’s all I would do all day. I’d just be the catcher in the. Ryan. All I
know, it’s crazy, but that’s the only thing I’d really like to be. I know it’s crazy.
[00:41:21] It’s the only thing he wants to be. So now he’s also a pedophile. A pedophile.
[00:41:29] I mean, if you read it that way.
[00:41:32] And actually, in part two, we’re gonna unpack because it’s actually far more insidious
than what this is. We’re gonna unpack that poem. So if you haven’t subscribed to the show, do it
right now. Pull out your little phone, hit a little sub button, and while you’re doing it, while we’re
Wrapping up. I need you to drop me a five star. Okay? I got one star haters. They don’t know
what the hell they’re talking about. They’re crazy people.
[00:41:57] And I need you to help me drop a five star. Look at. Look how many hours I’m saving
you. I’m reading this whole book for you. I’m doing voices. It’s great. You love it. Five stars,
please.
[00:42:08] Love you. Okay, chapter 23.
[00:42:12] Mom Comes Home and Holden is hiding in the closet from her. And he ends up like
borrowing money from her. He starts crying and he gives her his people hunting hat. And he’s
like, all right, I’m gonna go to this. Mr. Antolini, one of his teachers houses strange, I know.
Chapter 24. Mr. Antolini catches up with Holden and he fears that Holden will hate people like
football players when he’s older.
[00:42:42] Holden says he doesn’t hate too many people.
[00:42:45] He says that. He says, I see Holden. He says he sees Holden going down a fall in the
future. Let me read you what it says.
[00:42:55] All right, Listen to me now.
[00:42:58] I may not word this as memorably. Memorably as I’d like to, but I’ll write you a letter
about it in a day or two. Then you can get it all straight. But listen now, anyhow, he started
concerting, concentrating again. Then he said, this fall I think you’re riding for. It’s a special kind
of fall, a horrible kind. The man falling isn’t permitted to feel or hear himself hit bottom. He just
keeps falling and falling.
[00:43:23] The whole arrangements designed for men who at some time or other in their lives
were looking for something their own environment couldn’t supply them with. Or they thought
their own environment couldn’t supply them with. So they gave up looking. They gave it up
before they ever really even got started. You follow me?
[00:43:42] I’m like, bro, I’m not following you. What are you talking about? He’s talking about
falling and falling and he says it’s a horrible thing. And it made me think of Twin Peaks, right?
Fire walking me when Laura talks about falling and falling and the angels won’t catch you.
[00:43:59] But listen, this is the part where we’re getting to what we need to talk about. Mr.
Antolini tells Holden, hey, you should go see a psychoanalyst yet again.
[00:44:14] And he’s got a German name, Wilhelm Steckle.
[00:44:19] Among other things, right? Because you know, it’s like all them, not all them Nazis
were doing all them up them psychological operations and mind control experiments. And then
we brought them into America, we’re like, hey, why don’t you get us to the moon, wink, wink.
And, you know, once you do a little MK Ultra, among other things, you’ll find that you’re not the
first person who was ever confused and frightened and even sickened by human behavior.
You’re by no means alone on that score. You’ll be excited and stimulated to know many, many
men have been just as troubled morally and spiritually as you are right now.
[00:44:54] Okay, Good. All right. Mr. Antolini seems all right, but then Holden falls asleep on the
couch and he. He wakes up and Mr. Antolini’s hand is on his head. Holden jumps up like, what
are you doing, bro?
[00:45:15] The implication here, again, you gotta read between the lines. The implication here is
that Mr. Antolini was doing something inappropriate because Holden then goes on to compare
him to other perverts that he knows.
[00:45:29] And he leaves. Holden leaves. And he says this kind of stuff happened about 20
times since he was a kid.
[00:45:38] And earlier he talked about how he was getting uncontrollably tired at Antolini’s.
[00:45:45] And then he says he slept too much. Mr. Antolini drugged him and was going to rape
him.
[00:45:50] And Holden was the victim of this throughout his life, 20 times since he was a kid,
probably through the MK Ultra, disassociating sexual trauma stuff, right?
[00:46:06] Because.
[00:46:07] And in case you didn’t know, like, that’s the. That’s one of the theories is that when
someone’s treated with a horrifying trauma, it causes split in the mind, a fracture. It activates
what they call the amnesic barrier, the thing that’s supposed to protect the brain. When things
are too scary, like in a car accident, your brain shuts off. It’s like, oh, shit, we don’t want to
remember this one conk. And supposedly this happens with sexual abuse. And the child can
create alter egos and aliases through this fracturing of the mind. They call it dissociative identity
disorder. Is it true? I’m not a doctor, but there’s elements of that that are true. But the conspiracy
community puts together this grand arching theory about this has happened to many people,
and I believe it. I think it’s 100% true.
[00:46:54] And that’s what’s happening to Holden. That’s why he’s a psycho killer.
[00:46:58] And everyone’s like, you should go back to those crazy doctors you were seeing. You
know, the mind control Nazi doctors.
[00:47:05] And it’s undeniable. When you read this chapter, you’re like, oh, dang, man. Chapter
24. We find out the whole deal, what’s going on here. That’s why he’s so mad. That’s why he’s
so sexually confused and frustrated. He’s a mess.
[00:47:21] But listen, he says. He talks about how he’s uncontrollably tired at Mr. Antolini’s and
he fell asleep on the couch.
[00:47:30] He says, what made it even worse. My eyes were sore as hell. They felt sore. And
Bernie from not getting too much sleep.
[00:47:39] And then he talks about he’s nauseous and he’s got a puke. He was dosed an ether
rag. I don’t know. One of the side effects of either is burning eyes, by the way.
[00:47:50] But he got doped or dosed and then sexually assaulted.
[00:47:56] That’s what I’m reading.
[00:47:59] So he’s walking around now. He’s spiraling as if he wasn’t already. He’s talking to his
dead brother. He sees his dead brother talking to him. And he sees himself, like, dying, not
making it across the street.
[00:48:12] And he decides, like, I’m not going home. And he fantasizes about moving away and
being on his own.
[00:48:18] He wants to leave entirely. And he writes his younger sister Phoebe a note about
leaving. And he goes to her school.
[00:48:26] And he sees on the wall, someone wrote you on the wall. And he fantasizes about
killing them.
[00:48:34] But he decides he’s too yellow. He’s a coward. He’s like, I’m too cowardice to kill him.
[00:48:39] So then he takes a second to go to the museum and he starts dropping knowledge
about Egypt to these little kids. Because you remember the beginning during his.
[00:48:49] That time period with the 322 encoded. He wrote a report about Egypt, which we’re
going to talk about in Part two, right? So say. Subscribe to the show. We’re gonna talk about Joe
Atwill’s theory about the freemasonic ritual that Holden went through.
[00:49:04] He says he’s talking to the little kids, right? He says, I horsed around the two of them
a little bit. The mummies, what are they? I asked the one kid, you know, the mummies, them
dead guys, they get buried in those tombs and all toons that killed me. He meant tombs.
[00:49:23] The kid said, tunes with an N. As in November. Okay, I know some of this probably
didn’t translate over. You’re probably like, what? What are you talking about? Isaac?
[00:49:35] How come you two guys aren’t in school? I said, no school today. The kid that did all
the talking said he was lying, sure as I’m alive. The little bastard. I didn’t have anything to do,
though, till old Phoebe showed up. So I helped him find the place where the mummies were.
Boy, I used to know exactly where they were, but I ain’t been in the museum in years. You two
guys so interested in mummies? I said, yeah. Can’t your friend talk? I said, he ain’t my friend.
He’s my brudder. Can’t he talk? I looked at the one that wasn’t doing any talking. Can’t you talk
at all? I asked him. Yeah, he said, I didn’t. I don’t feel like it.
[00:50:13] Finally, we found the place where the mummies were and we went in.
[00:50:17] You know how the Egyptians buried their dead? I asked the one kid. Nah. Well, you
should. It’s very interesting. They wrapped their faces up in these cloths that were treated with
some secret chemical. That way they could be buried in their tombs for thousands of years and
their faces wouldn’t rot or anything. Nobody knows how to do it except the Egyptians. Even
modern science.
[00:50:37] To get to where the mummies were, you had to go down this very narrow sort of hall
with stones on the side that they had taken right out of the pharaoh’s tomb and all. It was pretty
spooky, and you could tell the two hotshots I was with weren’t enjoying it too much. They stuck
close as hell to me. And the one that didn’t talk at all practically was holding my sleeve.
[00:50:57] Let’s go. He said to his brother. I seen him already.
[00:51:03] Come on. Hey. He turned around and beat it. So the kids ran away.
[00:51:10] And at this point, Holden’s down in the tomb and he sees more graffiti that says, fuck
you.
[00:51:16] And I think he’s hallucinating at this point. I think he’s just seeing shit, right?
[00:51:21] So Phoebe finally meets up with Holden. He’s having this, like, psychosis stuff going
on. She meets up. She’s got her suitcase.
[00:51:29] She’s like, I’m ready. I’m gonna leave him with you, big bro.
[00:51:33] And he eventually decides that he’s not gonna leave. He’s like, I’m gonna take you
back to school instead.
[00:51:40] And during the exchange, she tosses his red hunting cap back in his face.
[00:51:45] They get into a fight, and he makes up by taking her to a carousel. And he’s sitting on
a bench watching her ride this carousel.
[00:51:54] And, you know, they make up. She puts his red cap back on again.
[00:52:00] Now, what’s interesting here, this is the final, like, stretch of the story.
[00:52:05] He’s in New York City At Central park, watching her on the carousel. Well, this is
where Luigi Mangione comes through. I talked about this last year on the podcast I did about
Luigi.
[00:52:17] I mentioned this book, Catcher in the Rye, connected to all these MK Ultra type mind
controlled assassins. Right.
[00:52:25] And I suggested that I wonder if Luigi was. Or the real killer. I don’t know if it’s Luigi,
but whoever killed that dude, if they’re going to tie some Catcher in the Rice symbolism because
it’s been in so many prolific, massive pop culture murders. And in the, in the book Catcher in the
Rye, there’s talk about these ducks. He keeps referring to these ducks in the book. I didn’t talk
about it yet, but he talks about these ducks at Central park south, which is right off of 6th
Avenue, which is exactly where the shooting happened, outside of the Manhattan Midtown
Hilton. All right, so we already, like, have one connection to the locations in the book, to the Luigi
shooting. And sure enough. And. And let me rewind a little bit. William Ramsey. As you know,
I’ve been talking about doing this show for months now.
[00:53:15] And I was all ready. I got my notes for part one done. I’m still working on part two. And
I was like, okay, on Wednesday, I’m Gonna Record Part 1. Well, wouldn’t you know, yesterday,
on Tuesday, William Ramsey was on Tinfoil Hat. You know, my. I had William Ramsey on my
show a few times. I’ve done Tinfoil Hat a bunch of times. And he was on there talking about
catching the Rye. I was like, oh, boy, this guy beat me to it, you know, no shade, man. We love
William Ramsey. He’s very educated guy. But because I want to, I’m trying to.
[00:53:46] I always try to give my props to my fellow truthers, okay? And this is one that I heard
from him on the Tinfoil Hat show. He said that the carousel that I just read to you was also
connected to the Luigi Mangione shooting. I said, get out of here, William.
[00:54:02] So I looked it up. Sure. You go to New York Post. It says his back. Remember the
backpack with the Monopoly money they recovered? Says the bag was recovered south of the
carousel near Heckshire Playground.
[00:54:17] Now could I be off? Maybe there’s two carousels in Central Park. I don’t know. I don’t
live in New York City.
[00:54:23] Maybe someone could debunk that. It doesn’t really matter to me. I don’t really care.
My point is, it’s now two location connections to Catcher in the Rye.
[00:54:36] Now, if you look up this carousel, the smarty folks who somehow look Past all this talk
of incel sex obsessed MK Ultra abuse and are just like, yeah, it’s a story about growing up or
whatever they say. They’ll tell you that the carousel represents Holden’s life being this daily
repetitive grind, right? It’s the Samsara of Twin Peaks. The donut, the circle fan, all that stuff.
[00:55:05] Oh, and I promise I’m not going to every episode bring up these connections of Twin
Peaks in the future. We’re just hot off the heels of me finishing my Gray Lodge 55 episode series
for been almost two years of work. Still working on the book. Lord knows if I’ll ever finish the
book.
[00:55:23] But we’re just hot off the heels of the grand finale. So, you know, I promise I’m not
gonna bring up Twin Peaks every episode in the future. Okay. All right.
[00:55:35] So anyway, so Holden, he’s like, all right, me and Phoebe, we straight now.
[00:55:42] He takes her home, calls up DB on the phone, they have a nice little conversation.
Whatever, whatever. Final chapter, chapter 26.
[00:55:51] Listen, how this book ends. I’m going to read to you.
[00:55:55] That’s all I’m going to tell about. I could probably tell you what I did after I went home
and how I got sick and all. And what school I’m supposed to go to next fall after I get out of here.
But I don’t feel like it. I really don’t. That stuff doesn’t interest me too much right now. A lot of
people, especially the one psychoanalyst guy they have here, keeps asking me if I’m going to
apply myself when I go back to school next September. It’s such a stupid question, in my
opinion. I mean, how do you know what you’re going to do till you do it? The answer is you don’t.
I think I am. But how do I know? I swear it’s a stupid question.
[00:56:27] DB Isn’t as bad as the rest of them, but he keeps asking me a lot of questions too. He
drove over last Saturday with his. With this English babe that’s in this new picture he’s writing.
She was pretty affected, but very good looking.
[00:56:42] Anyway, one time when she went to the ladies room way the hell down in the other
wing, DB Asked me what I thought about all this stuff I just finished telling you about. I don’t
know what the hell to say. If you want to know the truth. I don’t know what I think about it. I’m
sorry I told so many people about it. About all I know is I sort of miss everybody I told about.
Even old Stradlatter and Ackley, for instance. I think I even missed that. Goddamn Maurice. It’s
funny. Don’t ever tell anybody anything. If you do, you start missing everybody.
[00:57:16] What he’s. Now he thought it talks about the psychoanalyst guy that they have here.
He is in a mental institute, an asylum or something, prison, I don’t know.
[00:57:30] And it’s either because he literally murdered all these people that he misses, or he
just misses them because he’s blocked. Because he’s mentally wanted to kill these people. And
this is all mental game.
[00:57:43] It’s hard to tell, right? I’m sure, like some scholar out there probably unpacked all this
and like came to some other conclusion or whatever. But you’re not here to listen to a scholar.
You’re here to listen to my dumb ass.
[00:57:55] And that’s my reading on it. And I think Illuminate, confirm. Okay. In conclusion, we’ve
got a lot to unpack. We hit on some ideas. I kind of laid the groundwork for what I’m going to spill
to you in part two. We’re going super deep in part two. You ain’t even ready for part two. Okay.
[00:58:15] And I. I told you earlier I would talk to you about the number how the. The word 20
shows up in the book 22 times.
[00:58:21] I punched it into Google AI and it claimed to tell me that it represents the symbolic
age of adulthood for Holden, which is the point where he thinks people become phony and lose
their innocence, which he wants to protect. He sees it as his tipping point and he apparently
doesn’t want to make it to the age of 20. Thus I propose our. Our MK ultra victim, sexually
abused from being a child to these Nazi MK Ultra scientists, went on a murder spree because
he’s sexually frustrated. He’s an incel. He’s confused, he’s hurt, and it ends with him killing
himself because he doesn’t want to hit age 20.
[00:59:03] Dark Story, if you look at it through that perspective.
[00:59:09] And I don’t need to reiterate all the things I said on here. I mean, he literally talked
about. That’s the cap he wears when he shoots people. And then he goes on this shooting
spree. I think. I think he goes on a murder spree. So again, stay subscribed to this podcast
because I, you know, prayers up to nothing major happens between now and the time I can
Record Part 2, which is going to be.
[00:59:33] I don’t even know. I gotta. I gotta finish a few things. I’ll say three to seven days from
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