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UFO Whistleblower David Grusch: Interdimensional Entities, Crafts & Trinity Site Connections!

On today’s episode of the Occult Symbolism and Pop Culture with Isaac Weishaupt podcast we’re going to take a look at the biggest story of the century (perhaps)! A whistleblower named David Grusch sat down with News Nation to reveal how there is a secret group within secret groups of the United States intelligence community that has been covering up the truth about UFOs and alien bodies! We’ll talk about some of the interesting statements that have been released so far about inter dimensional beings, malevolent entities, and even a strong connection to the atomic bomb, Trinity Site and Twin Peaks!

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Website publisher of IlluminatiWatcher.com and top 5% Amazon author of THE DARK PATH; Isaac Weishaupt has been on the leading edge of theories surrounding the elusive “Illuminati” and its infiltration of the entertainment industry. Using examples of familiar pop culture and works of entertainment, Isaac has been speaking and writing about the occult from a unique perspective that seeks to understand the big agenda while helping others along the way.

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Isaac Weishaupt 0:06
Welcome back to occult symbolism in pop culture. I’m your host, Isaac Weishaupt. Today we’re talking about David gross. The whistleblower says the US has got you will those alien bodies? What’s going on? We’re gonna talk about it today. We’re going to talk about what I mean. Look, it’s possible. This is the biggest story of the century of mankind even could be, we don’t know. And we’re going to talk to you about this whistleblower named David grush. How he sat down with news nation to reveal how there is a secret group within the secret group in the United States intelligence community, covering up the truth about UFOs Alien bodies. But we’re going to talk about some of the interesting statements that have been released so far. And it hasn’t even aired yet. About interdimensional beings, malevolent entities. And some very strong connections to the atomic bomb, which takes us to the Trinity site, which takes us to the great world of Twin Peaks. Have you signed up yet? I’ve been harping on you. I’ve been telling you. We’re going to do the super mega ultra deep dive into Twin Peaks called the gray Lodge. We’re gonna go over season one, season two, the film and then season three. And we’re getting ready to take off on the mothership. So get in there. If you got the month of June. To sign up and get in there. You can get in there for two bucks. If you go to Illuminati watchdog calm, hit the VIP tab, use the coupon code cherry pie all one word all lowers or all uppers and you can get in for two bucks and you’ll get that for two bucks. I’m gonna give you a copy of the dark path. I’m gonna give you a copy of Kubrick’s code. You’re gonna get the ad free version of the podcast for a month right then it’s going to renew at $5 Thereafter, because I gotta I gotta pay the bills. I’m down here eat molto meal. Cinnamon toasties True Story tastes like cinnamon toast crunch. Turns out times it’s tough at the wise hop household. All right. We’re eating cinnamon toasties and dyno pebbles or whatever they’re called. You got to get the dyno pebbles with the marshmallows though. All right. And that’s the way that’s how you get them. That’s how you get back at him. Life hack. But I’m gonna give you the stuff the ad free version of the podcast, and you’re an unlock 107 170 Bonus episodes. We just did a bonus episode this week on Taylor Swift and her occult concerts summoning the demons. Witchcraft. I don’t know. Is it true? We’re gonna talk about it. It’s there waiting for you, along with every show we’ve ever done since 2016 2017 Bonus episodes. And guess what? This month I’m giving you two bonus episodes. Hell, you might make it three or four. I don’t even know I’m losing count. Because after I record this show, I’m coming back in the studio. And I’m dropping one of the most salacious episodes I’ve ever done. So salacious. That’s why it’s got to be on the bonus supporter feeds only we’re talking about Jamie Foxx some conspiracy theories about what happened. Some stabby side effects maybe we don’t know. Man, AJ Benza went on Dr. Drew, spilled the beans. I’ve talked to AJ Benza not to name drop, but I’m gonna name drop. I’ve worked I worked with AJ Benza a few years ago on some things, not like I worked with him. You know what I mean? The lightest of casual connections I have with the guy, but he seems like an honest dude. And he confirmed he confirmed illuminate confirmed with me so I don’t know. But we’re gonna talk about Jamie Foxx. And it’s not just the stabby thing we’re going to talk about. It connects him to Diddy, and some of these parties he was having very juicy hot gas, but it’s too hot for the free feed losers. Don’t be afraid to eat loser anymore. You go sign up cherry pie all one word to go. Or you can sign up for the other supportive feeds. You know the whole drill you know where to go, you know what to do. Now let’s talk about David grush. Again, possibly story of a lifetime. We don’t know You know, sometimes they gas things up and then then they fizzle out. Like we did a whole show about the big. The big UFO disclosure report back in 2021. nine pages. They said hey, there was 150 sightings and moving No, most of them are. Some of them. We don’t give his money’s. I was kind of what I said. cool way to make something so interesting, so boring, you know? But if this whistle blower leads us to full disclosure, we’re gonna finally get the answers are we alone which is going to shake up everything it’s gonna shake everything up even though he even though I’m gonna guess they’ll find a way to water down and not tell us much and be vague. But yeah, whatever right now news nation is the one that interviewed this, this whistleblower. And they’ve dropped a few little 1013 minute videos here and there, you can watch. The big interview releases Sunday, June 11. But for now, I watched several of these 10 minute videos. Basically, this guy, 36 year old Air Force vet was part of some top secret program or had had, I don’t know the top secret classified. What do you call it? I can’t think of the term security clearance. And he was an intelligence agent and all this stuff. Well, he was told through some folks that there was the super duper Ultra top secret program where they had fully intact UFOs. And he then filed a whistleblower report, which the Inspector General is taking very seriously calling it urgent and credible. Now when I first saw this David gross guy, I thought this guy’s seems like an actor. And I don’t believe him. But apparently his service has been verified by Lesley keen news nation, and allegedly keen she broke this particular story on the debrief website. She was the one that wrote the 2017 New York Times article that first released to the public that the Pentagon was researching this stuff. And then three years later, the Pentagon confirmed it at a very odd time in March 2020 or April, right. So apparently, he’s the real deal. He says that the government’s been keeping it all secret. This this sort of inner sanctum. You know, it’s very much like you see an X Files and stuff, right? Or even even to MOOCs. You know, they got the blue rose task force within the task force. The Russian dolls, you know, but anyways, his beef is that they were keeping everything secret from the congressman from the public, even from the UAP task force arrow, the latest iteration. He says, they were doing active public disinformation, which isn’t shocking, right. And his belief is that most of these groups that should have access to information have not been read into it. This is the the I don’t know if the deep states the right word anymore, but the secret government and apparently, he also filed this whistleblower report because he was facing retaliation for disclosing some of this information and talking about it to people that he shouldn’t Genet. So and diverse was we’re gonna go through his roles here. And apparently, he was a member of arrow, the latest UAP Task Force on some level. He was an intelligence agent. He thought maybe he was being deceived by what he was being told by some third parties. But he was showing some documents, I guess, to prove that it was real. He hasn’t seen any photos or seen the actual craft, apparently. But on some of these 10 minute clips, where news nation is talking to him to sort of tease for the Sunday full interview. He’s asked if we have bodies, do we have the alien bodies? And he says, well, sometimes you encountered dead pilots. Believe it or not. It’s true. That’s what he said. And in fact, I was I’ve been consuming a lot of this information on various sources. All right. But Chris Nunez, a podcast called the debrief. It’s on YouTube. She interviewed Lesley Keane. And I can’t think of the other guy’s name Blumenthal, Rob Blumenthal, something like that. And Leslie said on the debrief podcast there, that group didn’t mention anything to her about dead bodies. She’s like, that’s a whole other ish, right. And And Leslie Kean confirmed she said there’s no documents. There’s no photos that we as the public can see, it’s all classified, but the inspector general apparently has.

And she also has multiple sources that don’t know each other that told her this same story about what’s going on these inner hidden chambers. And if you know anything about the occult, secret societies, this is how they operate. In fact, I interviewed Professor Diana Pustaka, in 2020. In her book, American cosmic, that’s kind of how it worked. They call it the invisible College of UFO believers or researchers, or whatever. So all these things are lining up. Now. It’s either the largest psyop of all time, very possible. Or it’s the real deal. And it’s time for them to reveal to the public. The Pentagon responded to this claim by the whistleblower, but they they did it in a very strange fashion. They said the arrow the air office knows nothing about any of this. And it’s kind of like well, that’s what David grish said. He said that this is an inner inner sanctum secretive thing and that was his whole beef was that they’re not talking to anybody. They’re not talking to arrow this is like some real what’s the guy next file is the smoking man, the cigarette man. What are they smoke on their Marley’s? Marla Marlowe’s on I remember. But I think I saw that in season three of Twin Peaks. Now I’m thinking about it. I think they also were smoking a cigarette called with the same name. Well, I’m still getting through the details of the show on Twin Peaks there. Like I said, you’re going to join me as we try to decode this whole thing. It’s a massive undertaking. And then, in the meantime, I’ve got youthful UFO Disclosure going on. And Jamie Foxx, illuminate confirming P Diddy, I mean, good lord. That’s why it’s gonna take us forever to get through Twin Peaks, we’re gonna enjoy the journey. You know, in the past, when I’ve done these big, massive deep dives and books, I get obsessive about it, and I’m not doing it this time. That’s how I’m enjoying it. Right? I really enjoy the show. So I’m really going to enjoy and take my time and I’m gonna do it right baby. And in fact, the next one picks up so because you’re probably waiting for it. moped next week, we’re gonna go through the whole cast of season one and two. We’re not We’re not handling Season Three yet. That’s a whole nother beast. All right. Our first focus is to get through Season One, two, and the movie fire walk with me. That’s our focus for the next six months, maybe I’d say. And then season three is gonna be a whole it’s a whole other can of worms, my friends. Let’s look at the debrief article. Written by Lesley clean and there it is Ralph Blumenthal boom June 5 2023. The whistleblower David Charles grush 36, a decorated former combat officer in Afghanistan is a veteran of the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, Nga, and the National Reconnaissance Office NRO he served as the reconnaissance offices representative to the UAP Task Force from 2019 to 2021. So right when the disclosure thing happened from late 2021, to July 2022, he was the NG as CO lead for UAP analysis, and it’s representative to the task force, so very closely plugged into this thing. So for one, I guess, like his group, kind of turned into arrow, which is the latest name for it, they you know, they change names like three times I don’t know if it’s different personnel, but they keep changing titles for doing the same function. Research researching UAV. Now, they talked about this exact claim about these sorts of secrets within secrets. In his statements cleared for publication by the Pentagon in April grush asserted that UFO legacy programs have long been concealed within multiple agencies nesting UAP activities in conventional secret access programs without appropriate reporting to various oversight authorities. He said he reported to Congress on the existence of a decade’s long, publicly unknown Cold War for recovered and exploited physical material. competition with near peer adversaries over the yours to identify UAP crashes landings and retrieve the material for exploitation slash reverse engineering to garner asymmetric National Defense advantages hot boy that a mouthful are what? So, okay, how can we unpack all this? Let’s talk a little bit more about this guy grush left government service on April 7 2023, due to these reprisals, right. He believes that his report to the inspector general somehow got leaked to the this is my interpretation that somehow got leaked people that he worked with, and he was, you know, getting punished for snitch. But his whole beef was that look, they’re they’re purposely keeping the secret to avoid the oversight by Congress, because Congress is asking a bunch of questions, which they should. So the IG, they found the complaint, credible and urgent, but this, my friends, and you’ll see that in the news clips, if you read the article that happened in July of 22. So I don’t know how urgent that is, but that was a year ago. And they’re claiming there’s a reason why it’s been so secretive. Even on the global level, because you got to think Well, I mean, your voters don’t only care about America, right? They care about other countries. The allegation here is that it’s some kind of Cold War. Nonsense to this day. I’m gonna read you again. And it’s very stuffy, the writing is very stuffy. Hey, you know why it’s not BuzzFeed. So what do you expect? Jonathan Gray. I think this is like another not a whistleblower. But another guy who kind of said this kind of stuff happened. Jonathan Gray says secrets have been necessary. Though a tough nut to crack potential technological advancements, may be gleaned from non human intelligence UAP retrievals by any sufficiently advanced nation, and then use to wage asymmetrical warfare. So therefore, some secrecy must remain national security stuff, right. However, it is no longer necessary to continue to deny that these advanced technologies derived from non human intelligence exist at all, or to deny that these technologies have landed, crashed or fallen into the hands of human beings. Great noted that they hypotheses that the United States alone has bullied the other nations into maintaining the secrecy for nearly a century continues to prevail as the primary consensus amongst the public at large. My hope is to dissuade the global populace from the archaic and preposterous notion to potentially pave the way for a much broader discussion. grish says it was dangerous for this 80 year arms race to continue in secrecy, because it further inhibits the world populace to be prepared for an unexpected nonhuman intelligence contact scenario. What? What’s going on here? There is, and this sounds an awful lot, like a lot more dangerous, right? Because the way he’s talking makes it sound it’s reminiscent of Snowden. And what’s the other dude? Edward Snowden will say, Who spilled the beans about what was going on? Because he’s like, look, this isn’t fair for mankind. But then you got to ask yourself, Is this all theatrics? Is this the way that they say, Look, we’re gonna get this non human contact scenario soon. You got to ease the people into this. Maybe it is. Maybe it’s the way they they do it. Maybe it’s the way that they you know, you’re forced their hand and they say, look, all right, we had to keep it a secret because of this, that the other protects the blah, blah, blah. And this is the only one because what do you want to do? You want to go out and be like, hey, for 80 years, we’ve been talking to aliens. Sorry. You got to Gotcha. like Kanye West meme. Gotcha. Now, I’m going to play a clip. Because like I said, there’s multiple news nation clips. Listen, I want you to listen to what he says. He’s asked if these things are malevolent. Right? Are they evil? Are they evil doers? He will do and aliens.

And listen to what my man says.

Speaker 2 20:13
US nation has confirmed Gresh his credentials, but he says he can’t show us the proof of the alien craft for national security reasons. In a somewhat frightening revelation grush claims the non human species may not be friendly.

Speaker 3 20:27
I’ve been told that there have been attempts to bring down craft that we’ve acted offensively against nonhuman craft. There have been instances and there are certain techniques have human beings being hurt or killed by a nonhuman intelligence.

Speaker 4 20:48
While I can’t get into the specifics because that would reveal certain us classified operations. I was briefed by a few individuals on the program that there were malevolent events like that.

Speaker 2 21:01
grush says he has to be careful about providing detail he shared this letter with us from the Department of Defense giving him permission to do the interview with news nation. It says the interview questions are approved for public release. However, this approval does not include any photograph, picture exhibit caption or other supplemental material not specifically approved by this office. Our concurrence for release does not imply DoD endorsement or factual accuracy of the material. grush says the United States is not the only country that has encountered non human intelligence. He says our geopolitical rivals have their own crash retrieval programs.

Isaac Weishaupt 21:37
Brothers, aliens are gonna kill us. Aliens are gonna kill us. I think it’s interesting, though, because I think it was Tom DeLonge who was saying that man who was somebody I think it was Tom DeLonge don’t quote me. Somewhere was I think it might even been on Joe Rogan was saying that the military vets can’t. There’s some red tape where if a vet gets jacked up from an alien, that they can’t cover the disability or something, which I don’t buy that at all. It doesn’t make any sense. But you’re telling me that they can cover up for the existence of aliens for 80 years. And reverse engineer alien craft with a que can’t wrap their mind about how they could possibly find a way to cover the health benefits or whatever. So apparently, that some of these aliens are malevolent, but to be fair, I mean, if if a craft was shooting missiles at me, I might fight back to so are all the correct to say malevolent. But hey, we’ll see what happens here. Now, that’s the gist of all the sort of ideas about what they’ve been teasing for the show the big interview that drops on Sunday on news nation, okay. Now, I know that that’s not why you came here. You came here for conspiracy, outlandish claims, and I’m gonna give it to you. All right. There’s a of course we got to go to Reddit, right? There’s a Reddit claim that there exists an article, David gross been interviewed by a French paper a les Perry Xian. And it’s called, they might be extraterrestrial or something else, but they’re not human. And this is apparently translated. No idea if it’s true. But apparently he talks about these crafts. And you’ll never guess where he says that come from. He said grush says, I wasn’t certain of their non human origin until I was briefed on the analysis carried out by members of these programs on these recovered vehicles. The interviewer says, what could be the origin of these objects if they aren’t human? Chris says my degrees in physics, the mechanical and experimental data shows that it’s not human. Could be x, it could be extraterrestrial, or it could be something else coming from other dimensions as described by quantum mechanics. I haven’t seen enough data to say it’s one thing or another the US government must have more information. Now if you read my two alien books, which I’m sure you have, they were featured on Coast to Coast AM I remember that marijuana they let me on there. What are they thinking? Let me let me on they’re spreading my insane ideas. But that’s the crux of the argument is that because I researched the paranormal and aliens and the occult, and all these realms overlap with this particular thing, the phenomenon. And in there lies quantum mechanics, which is occultism proven through science in a way, the idea of quantum entanglement, things popping in and out of our dimension. And don’t look look I don’t have a degree in physics, I took two courses of it in college, it was very difficult, but also very fascinating. And my, my hypotheses in my in Aliens UFOs and the occult user illusion, one was that using the science of quantum and the occult, they know that if we focus enough attention in this realm, maybe we can manifest aliens into our existence. On some weird level, don’t ask me how it works. I certainly don’t know. It just seems to me that that’s what’s going on through entertainment generally. And here it is. Gross basically says that’s what’s going on. More or less, okay. Now, and here’s another here’s something interesting. He says the earliest crash recovery was actually conducted in 1933. In Italy. Listen to this, he says. One was recovered in Italy in 1933, which is the earliest case I’ve been briefed on. I can’t talk about the others. The interviewer says what allegedly happened there. Guru says in 1933, a bell light craft around 10 meters in size, was recovered in magenta northern Italy. It was kept by Mussolini’s government until 1944, when it was recovered by agents of the Office of Strategic Services. That’s the OSS, a former US intelligence agency. I think it’s the predecessor to the CIA. Ironically, it predates anything the public has heard about for decades such as Roswell, I was authorized to talk about it by the DoD office of pre publication and Security Review. Interviewer says, you’re talking about information conceal for decades. Aren’t you afraid of playing into the hands of conspiracy theorists? Well, we’ll pump the brakes here. Mr. Interviewer. Let’s not use this disparaging derogatory stances about conspiracy theorists. All right. I don’t know if you check the scorecard. We’ve been kind of right about everything I write. Sometimes, sometimes, some of us sometimes are right about some things. That’s the fair way of saying it. Which, which just goes to show you, you can’t dismiss all conspiracy. That’s the point. Gross responds, Yes. There’s always a likelihood that this will encourage more unfounded conspiracy theories. The irony is that this was once a conspiracy theory that turns out to be true. Well encourage away groups we’re doing it time for unfounded conspiracy theories. That’s why should I call it conspiracy theories and unfounded pop culture, I don’t know. Then it talks about the reprisal claims on there to the interviewer says, You state in your complaint, you suffered reprisal, blah, blah, blah. And he claims this is why he filed the thing. They tried to attack my security clearance. They made allegations of misconduct against me things of that nature, to protect the ongoing investigation on my behalf. I can’t give too many details. Blah, blah, blah. Do you fear for your life? He said at one time there were threats of this nature. There you go. real stuff. And like they always say that’s a Bob Lazar was saying he’s I gotta I gotta go public to protect myself. Let’s go back to that Italy crash because someone on that Reddit dropped a link to the black Vault, which is a website that released a ton. I mean, they got tons and tons of FOIA request UFO documents and such. And this was a few years ago. So this isn’t anything new. Turns out. And it talks about Mussolini, who has had his own UAP das force, believe it or not, and all these everyone’s got all these task forces. Yeah, they don’t exist, right. Okay. I’m gonna read you from it. Just just an interesting piece of it that we’re going to talk about later the crashed UFO was stored in the hangars of the SI machete. In vers Yachty Mussolini thought that this unconventional flying vehicle was a French British or German secret weapon. But apparently Guglielmo Marconi believed it was extra terrestrial in nature, the RS 33 cabinet, according to the mysterious sender of the material, who wrote to us, saying he was a relative of one of its members who had investigated this apparently, between 1933 and 1940, there were many different Italian UFO sightings. In one instance, an Italian fighter plane intercepted a UFO between Ravenna and Rome. And in August 1936 There was a multiple UFO sighting a flying cigar and to Saturn shaped UFOs. to Saturn shaped UFOs Oh my God, not keep taking it to Twin Peaks. But you see a lot of Saturn symbolism on that show. And the concept of time is, of course very fickle in the world of Twin Peaks, as is in the world of contactees. This gets into a lot of quantum stuff, the time space fabric connected. There was a comment or on Reddit

fluid war 1647, who said interesting coincidence that Enrico Fermi began his pioneering work on neutron bombardment in Italy in 1934. He went on to win the Nobel Prize in 1938, for his demonstrations of the existence of new radioactive elements. Of course, he then later went on to join the Manhattan Project. So we’ve got this crash in 1933. And throughout the 30s, in Italy, and then Fermi was working all this stuff over there simultaneously. That is interesting right. Now Fermi, he’s the famous scientists who came up with the Fermi paradox, which says, which is part of which is part of my beef with the whole phenomenon. Look, the universe is supposedly so big. It’s been around for so long, and there’s so many planets and galaxies and stars. Statistically, there’s got to be intelligent life, somewhere besides Earth, there’s got to be somewhere in this massive universe. The paradox is where the hell is it? Where’s the evidence? It’s got to be out there. Meaning high likelihood of extraterrestrial life in this world. zero evidence. Now Fermi, he created the world’s first nuclear reactor. They call him the architect of the atomic bomb. I know all my Twin Peaks fans out there, they’re already chomping at the bit. They’re like, Oh, I know where we’re going with this. And I’m not going to spoil anything. But we’re gonna go there. Fermi left Italy in 1938. They had some racial laws. He was married to a Jewish woman came to America and worked on the Manhattan Project. In fact, he was there at the Trinity site, July 16 1945. quick plug the Oppenheimer movie. I think it comes out real soon. Your boy I might go to the theater, and I might suffer in the theater and watch it. I definitely want to see it. But he was there. Trinity the Trinity say of course, Trinity is the codename for the first detonation of the first atomic bomb in America. At her nada del muerto journey of the dead. Which is also next to where when we interviewed Paulo Harris, and her book with Jacque valet that I read, called Trinity about the actual first UFO crash retrieval in America in 1945. That happened right after the Trinity test. Right next to also Sykora where there was another very famous UFO crash. And at the Trinity site, to honor the first atomic bomb. There’s a big black obelisk. Very strange, right, the symbol of male masculinity, the phallus the obelisk located on the journey of the dead at the first location for the detonator the atomic bomb. Now the name Trinity was chosen by Oppenheimer for reasons that apparently aren’t definitive. There was a reference to the Christian Trinity that people thought maybe that’s what it was. Others say it’s his love that he had for this poet named John Don. There’s a poem on Wikipedia that goes like a little something like this as West and East in all flat maps, and I am one r1. So death doth touch the resurrection. And but apparently, nobody knows, why do you call it the Trinity site? I think it’s strange to have a spiritual element there. Because this is a big to do. This was a big shift in all of humanity. Some say for the better, some say for the worse. Hell, you could argue it’s the end of humanity. And, of course, to wrap it all up, if you watch season three of Twin Peaks, you already know there’s a reverence in there to the Trinity test, opening up doorways. Opening up doorways, Jack Parsons, in 1946 was conducting experiments and opening up gateways as well. That’s why the Collins elite were interested in these concepts of channeling the devil and how it ties into UFOs. Is it all connected? It could be and then there’s gonna be much, much, much, much more to come on the Twin Peaks thing when we get into the great lodge episodes. We’re going to tie it into season three. We’ve got a long way to go before we get there though. But it ties into Jack Parsons, Aleister Crowley, some classic Golden Age conspiracy theories. We are going to do a deep dive on Jack Parsons that’s long overdue. Me and my wife Josie did a sort of casual discussion about Jack Parsons, Marjorie Cameron, L. Ron Hubbard, and the Babylon working ritual, which opened up some of the gateways. We did that on breaking social norms as three episodes of it all out now. So in conclusion, Oh, and before I forget, did you hear about the May 1. Las Vegas UFO crash? George Knapp tweeted it. There was apparently multiple eyewitnesses of these eight 910 foot tall aliens. And police body cams captured this falling UFO. Well, it’s a light right? It could be a meteorite or meteorite or whatever you call it asteroid. I don’t know. But either way the body can call this object crashing into the earth. And then minutes later 911 starts blowing up with people saying hey, there’s a foot tall aliens in my backyard. Now perplexing that nobody grabbed his cell phone. I saw bird frozen in the sky I was I was you I could get myself well not fast enough. Of course I didn’t capture it. Because that’s the phenomenon the Trickster name is fascinating story there. So look, if you’re new to the UFO world, let me tell you something. It’s straight drama. It’s drama, drama. Everyone’s got an opinion already. We haven’t even seen the damn interview yet. But everyone’s got an opinion. It’s either. Oh my god, proof of alien god Luciferian salvation, or oh my god, total government SIOP lies disinformation. They’re trying to create the new world order. And I certainly don’t know the answer. I do think it’s funny how triggered everybody gets though immediately like that. Now apparently, if groceries lyin to this Inspector General, he’s gonna do some prison time. So I mean, I gotta believe the guy’s telling the truth, unless this is a huge psyop and everyone’s in on it. So the question is was excited to make these claims is this predetermined? Bill Cooper talks about this and behold a pale horse. Remember? He said that he seen a lot of documents talking about this stuff about aliens. He saw us oh come out of the water in question if he was sort of manipulated into seeing that. So he wrote would release that information? Because he was also a naval intelligence. Well, I should say he’s also intelligence, but for the Navy. And then, you know, back to me, of course. Is this is this what I was? Is this more evidence to lump into my alien book Looks talking about the phenomenon of aliens being interdimensional versus Extra Terrestrial, which would satisfy Fermi’s Paradox where, look if they’re on all the planets all over the place where the damn aliens? Well, maybe there isn’t anything out there on the other planets. Maybe they’re in other dimensions, like ghosts. I’m gonna read you what Bruce said. He said, my degrees in physics in physics, the mechanical and experimental data shows that it’s not human. It could be extraterrestrial. Or it could be something else coming from other dimensions as described by quantum mechanics. Which of course ties us into the Twin Peaks, nuclear testing Trinity sites situation, sharing apart atoms opening up gateways. And then he says some of them are malevolent. Could it be that this is a sales pitch for more weapons systems? That’s kind of where the all the roads were leading was a we need more money to study this thing? Which doesn’t really make sense because all the conspiracy people said, dude, you’ve been you guys been studying this since the 40s. What do you mean? What are you talking about? What do you mean?

Now, one last thing. No, no, yeah. Let’s talk about the there’s a linkage between the intelligence agencies, the UFOs and the occult. They do similar things like the intelligence agencies and the occultist. They’ve got secret hand signs and secret symbols. Even in Twin Peaks. You see the No, I can’t even think of it. What’s the name of the secret group? The book house boys who almost got my Twin Peaks card revoked. They’re the book house boys they do secret hand gestures. Laura Palmer’s doing weird hand gestures, sometimes her arms bend back. Weird stuff, right? It all has secret meaning. They all they use various code names or magical names. I mean, it’s very interesting. John D. He was the Queen of England secret agent signed his name double oh seven. And of course he was in the UFOs to channeling the Nokian language from the aliens Aleister Crowley, British intelligence, use that a Nokian language the language of Adam, to make contact with aliens. L Ron Hubbard naval intelligence, of course, tied in with Croley and Parsons. And if you listen to the episodes I did about Parsons on breaking social norms. You know how Parsons was making Hubbard watch as he was on the desert, you know, bobbing and weaving on the ball at a champ invoking the wand as they say, in the desert trying to manifest the goddess of Babylon to end the world. By channeling aliens channeling UFOs Marjorie Cameron, in fact showed up and they confirmed that a UFO was the sign to prove she was the goddess Babylon. Bill Cooper was naval intelligence. And of course, you know, how put off was part of Project Stargate for the DIA and other intelligence agency. And you’ll find lots of those folks on the to the stars Academy Tom DeLonge group there. They’re tied in intelligence Jim semi man. So there’s a real strong link between those three realms. Okay. So let’s all watch the full interview. Airing Sunday night. Shout out Kurt Russell on Twitter saw me it could have also said that they believe it was two three and a half hour interviews. I was able to confirm that as a one hour interview Sunday at 9pm Eight Central. So and it’s on news nation, you got to figure out how to watch it. Go to their website, you’ll see it. And let’s see what happens. Let’s see how much of this stuff real and, and go sign up for the damn toolbox. Twin Peaks, get the gray Lodge. Use the code cherry pie if you go to Illuminati watcher.com Hit the VIP tab, scroll all the way down sign up for tier one. It’s five bucks a month. You get in there for only two bucks. Using the coupon code cherry pie all one word. And you’re gonna get the books, you’re gonna get the access to everything. You’re gonna love it, you’re gonna set it up and you’re say, Oh my God, why did I just do this the whole time to read all these pesky ads. And I get the books and I get the bonus shows every time they drop. Because guess what I’m recording right after this. I’m recording another bonus show about Jamie Fox and what’s really going on with him? What’s going on with Diddy? What’s going on with Justin Bieber, Usher, Nick Cannon, what are they all doing together? Some weird stuff. That’s what they’re doing together. And we’re gonna talk about it on the next bonus show. So don’t miss that. All right. And then of course, you can sign up for any of the supported platforms, you get all the same bonus content. I just I managed the VIP section so I can offer the coupon. But you can go to patreon.com/illuminati watcher, that’s the most popular because you can comment and talk to the community, or the easiest is Apple podcast. You double click the button and you’re in and you’re done. The easiest most seamless thing you’ve ever seen in your whole damn life. Those are all your options. Links are always in the show notes. Until next time, stay WOKE

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