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Those Conspiracy Guys and Isaac Weishaupt

SPEAKERS

Isaac Weishaupt, Gordon from TCG

 

Isaac Weishaupt  00:02

Find the rosicrucians the Kabbalists all these people is always goes to Lucifer as the Savior it always does 100% of the time not country Matt bush non country music I don’t listen to country music so I can’t testify to that. But Helena Blavatsky, I mean they all talk about it right? Well, that’s he said the Satan is, is actually of course the enemy of God but in reality Satan is the highest Divine Spirit. And this is the called wisdom on earth. And that’s, that’s what inspired all of the things that conspiracy world looks at, like the whole idea of NASA and the Nazis, of course, goes back to jack Parsons, who was working with croley and jack Parsons says, I’m the Antichrist and i’m gonna i’m here to get rid of the lying hypocrisy of Christianity and Crowley said, I’m here to bring you the A on and post the new age, the age of the crown and conquering child and Basically all the old gods will be will be no longer Hey everyone it’s your boy Isaac Weishaupt host of conspiracy theories known popular culture today is a special episode your man my man Gordo from those conspiracy guys is allowing me to share our two hour plus conversation where we get into primarily the dark path but you know, we get we get going on all sorts of topics trending topics and all that so to keep this intro less than 17 minutes like the one I did on the Dr. Pasulka show, I will be brief but the latest and greatest updates in my little world which you I want you to be a part of patreon.com backslash Illuminati watcher. I’ve got a special offer running until September 8. You gain you can get your name in the back of my alien birth, alien book alien book, you illusion one dropping in September. You my friend can be on the Patreon team and get your name in the back of it. All you got to do is sign up@patreon.com backslash Illuminati watcher, and you’re gonna get so many benefits that you’re gonna stay on the team forever. Like everyone does. We cleared 1000 supporters that was my goal. We cleared it. Thank you very much everyone. join the team. go above and beyond and you will no longer get commercials, you’ll get early access, you’ll get BONUS episodes like I’m dropping a Project Blue Beam explained episode for the Patreon folks they get one two extra shows a month. You’ll see take a look at all this stuff you get you’ll I assure you you will sign up once you see all the ebooks everything. The the special offer By the way, like I said expires September 8. So get on the team before then. And also if you want to do that, legally you have to and you’ll see the links for all this when you get on there. You have to sign up at There’s like a post I made with a poll about yes or no, I want my name in the book. And the reality is the default is no, legally, I can’t just put your name in the book, you have to go to that poll. And yes, if you want your name in the book, you have to do that. Otherwise, I can’t do it. So if you sign up, which you will, you have to go to that post, which you’ll see links to that when you sign up, they’ll send you a welcome email and it’ll be on there. If not hit me on the messages that Patreon I’ve got a message thing I answer all of them, hit me up and I’ll send you the link. And if you say yes, I will put your first name, first letter of your last name and that’s it unless you specify clearly you want a full name or you know, if you got some weird gamer tag, that’s what I put in there. So and you’ll see all this stuff on there when you when you sign up. So again, you got till September 8, and then you lose me forever. And user illusion, one alien book dropping in September. The paperbacks in October probably depends how long it takes to get the proofs back, but I got a gal A special thanks named In order to submit all this stuff so there’s the whole deal enjoy this two hour show with your man Gordo from those conspiracy guys.

 

Gordon from TCG  04:10

Isaac Weishaupt Welcome

 

Isaac Weishaupt  04:12

man I’m happy to be on this show we You and I have been in this game for a minute or two sort of inadvertently Crossing Paths so this is a big deal for me so I do appreciate you letting me on the show and talk to your lovely audience we’ll find out like the devil’s haircut you got by the way

 

Gordon from TCG  04:30

I was just holding on to man that got me widow’s peak going on and I was you know doing a little call me over job in there just wasn’t working. The barber was just like, what do I do with this? What do we do? And just like dose was culminated that’s also slice a fucking man. We get to it now. But like I didn’t knock me back.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  04:45

Man. That’s Yeah, I just need to look man. I need to get that CrossFit back at the CrossFit.

 

Gordon from TCG  04:52

Yeah, it’s because we’ve been crossing paths where I’ve talked to Greg Harewood like many’s the time you know I’m listening to him for jazz I said 10 years, which is the first place I’ve heard of you. And you’ve also been on Sam Tripoli’s podcast. You’ve been pumping action on YouTube for years and years. Unfortunately, there was a bit of a hiccup because YouTube to me, a bunch of dry haunts, decided just to pull the plug on you, right?

 

Isaac Weishaupt  05:19

Yeah, exactly. So, and it’s interesting how the last 10 years has progressed, because I started blogging in 2011. With no intentions of it, like doing anything, I was actually what I was doing was I’d finished my my bachelor’s degree and I had a two year gap before I started grad school. So I started the blog, just kind of, you know, dicking around and slowly sort of picked up traction and then we started doing YouTube videos and then those picked up traction. This was like 2012 ish, 2013 ish, that I started the YouTube videos and back then if you recall, there was tons of conspiracy videos like it was on fire. And I

 

Gordon from TCG  06:01

really well smoke smoking draw and watching a shooting 345 in the morning and it was like recommend recommend recommend just like yeah,

 

Isaac Weishaupt  06:08

love this shit. Yeah. And like people used to sort of talk about going down the rabbit hole and clicking videos and staying up all night like it was a whole thing. And then in 2016, everything changed. And that was a very curious time because not only did my website traffic, which was linearly increasing every month, about half, half a million pageviews a month at the point in 2016. At the same time, in the same year, the blog that I started getting removed from the first page of Google results also started getting sort of shadowman on YouTube, and then eventually fully banned on YouTube for saying stuff that I’ve followed them. I mean, I’ve sent emails 2030 emails back and forth, trying to get a definition trying to find out why they wouldn’t tell me they just tell you violate community guidelines. And you know, I’d like 73,000 subscribers at the time and it just it was there’s a lot of time to make these videos you know, so I was real pissed off at them. And then you know what what I’m getting at here is the short version Google and YouTube of course the same thing. Yeah, same company and they’re the number one and two search engine. So the truth is that somebody out there the Illuminati, whatever we want to call these people, they have a vested interest in manifesting reality and creating the reality they want to be chosen, which in the truth or community, we all like, this is nothing new. We get this, but it’s an all in an all out sort of assault on on finding the narrative of what everyone needs to understand and filtering everything else out of the way.

 

Gordon from TCG  07:47

Yeah, well, I mean, it’s since the early 90s. You know, in the way that I you know, I was watching I was watching alien documentaries are you’d be watching The X Files and then finally, the thing like a Chupacabra, so Often you look it up and you know it’s sent to the library or to the dial up internet, you know, in the late 90s. And as the 2000s came along and 911 woke a lot of people up I think that was my like true conspiracy awakening. And then for those 15 years, it was just building and building and building and it was a whole broadcast yourself ethos online that people were having blogs, they were getting followers. It was independent media in its purest form, like 2012 was probably like peak YouTube, you know, far far at the power of creators like proper influencers before it got commercialized before got whitewashed. On Facebook, the same like Facebook was for people to connect, it wasn’t like this, you know, commercial behemoth where if you put stuff up, it takes like three days for people to see it. Or if you have a bunch of followers you have to pay or no one will see it. And it ends up becoming this like utilitarian type of service where it doesn’t work naturally. The same with like Twitter chronological timeline. You put something up and it’s like, here’s this is happening now and you don’t see it for two days. So like, you were part of this community that was pumping out conspiracy stuff, seeing current events, analyzing them to your knowledge, and then pumping them back out as videos. I still see you have like, Isaac Weishaupt does that as a YouTube channel, I don’t know if that’s even yours. There’s like maybe 10,000 people on it now. But 70,000 people is a lot a lot to lose. We started the show in 2014. It was pretty soon from 2013. And up to like, 20. Like I said, 2016 everything was hunky dory. And then I started getting like, dings on older videos on YouTube older episodes. Were still showing up in Google, but not as well as we were, what do you think was the change? Like, is this a power change? Is that the what would just keep sisters coming in? Was there like a decision of like, okay, you know, implement plan alpha, where we’re going to take over this independent media because we know mainstream media is being more and more distrusted. Like, what was the change? What was the catalyst for that? Do you think?

 

Isaac Weishaupt  10:04

something curious that happened in March of 2016, you can see there was a bill that was called countering foreign disinformation or something to that effect. That here in America we were pushing through. And basically, if you read the language of it, it says, hey, there’s fake news, and this is foreign propaganda. And we need to do something about it. This is back in March of 16. Yeah, then fast forward through the summer, late summer of 2016. President Trump is running for office. And, you know, people start seeing all these weird videos and links on their on their social media feeds. And then you know, and the official story goes that well turns out that there was in fact fake news and there was foreign in, you know, countries trying to manipulate the election. So in October after trumpet one or November, excuse me, all of a sudden that Fake News starts circulating Yeah. And they and everybody was at everybody act shocked the media, the politicians all like whoa, what is this fake news? I can’t believe someone did this and it’s like, No, dude, you guys knew back in March this was gonna happen so

 

Gordon from TCG  11:14

don’t act surprised three three Macedonian teenagers in there in the back bedroom destroyed the American elections apparently Yeah,

 

Isaac Weishaupt  11:20

right and and you know and I’m not smart enough to know what really happened there you’d have to spend a year researching it and go down that rabbit hole. But the point I’m getting at here is I think in 2016 there was a sort of false flag attempt to silence the truth or community and they started populating this fake news term. And all this is devastating and, you know, now, because of fake news, we got Trump in here and everybody hates Trump. And, you know, we really need to do something about it and let’s science the conspiracy. Truth. There’s like, wait, why, like how do we get from from foreign countries and causing the problem The truth is and that’s what they did. was in Iraq was

 

Gordon from TCG  12:00

to be like domestic terrorists, you know, straight, straight white men are like school shooters and like if you take all of that stuff analysts that I wish, if you think about it now, like audience at home thinking about it now, if you think about it now, it seems like oh, yeah, that was a thing. You know? Yeah, that was in San Bernardino. And Yo, yeah, the Vegas thing. But if you list all the shit that happened over the last four years, I was in a list. Like it’s fucking Melcher face the amount of times that the US has like blatantly lied, been caught and went out. Well, here’s another thing and a big thing that I found when we were doing our episode on propaganda. The start of 2016 was the Smith month act that was enacted after world war two a basically the Americans were using propaganda through the news media during the war to you know, encourage people to go to fight for our country and all kinds of stuff, but the powers that be knew that okay, sheesh, if we leave this For the stage with the power to tell lies and propaganda and manipulate the populace, they’re definitely going to use it for bad. And so they put this moratorium on the for like 70 years where this Smith Smith mundt act was put in where you can’t propagandize to the American people to your own people. You’re not allowed to manipulate news media or tell us to manipulate your populace. And that was rescinded by the Obama administration in 2013. So you can see from then filter down, it took maybe two, three years, that the second term of Obama’s administration, it started to really ramp up door, you know, underplaying all the drone strikes, really playing up like the terrorism and ISIS and all this kind of stuff. And when Trump came in, I think they thought that he was going to walk away with this and it was going to be a kind of a whitewash of, you know, Illuminati control, the elites, were going to really push all the buttons, and it was kind of an obsession, which led to the Russia gate thing which led to all of these other False holds hidden in different symbols and meanings. If you were to, if you were to say for YouTubers, particularly, which is the second biggest search engine, and do you think that that rule or even like the ad pocalypse is and stuff that happened is that like YouTube’s way of trying to gain control over this uncontrollable mass of people? Like we are all pre ouch like incorruptible conspiracy theorists we won’t fall for that shit will always ask questions will always, you know, double down on bad decisions about media consumption. Do you think it’s there? It’s a particularly targeted thing from YouTube to get rid of the people who question the mainstream narrative.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  14:43

Yeah, hundred percent because, like you said, there’s all these false flags in history Operation Mockingbird was telling us how evil communism was. And, you know, you’ve got all these weird little CIA operations on American soil which they’re not even supposed to do. And you know, YouTube. So it’s kind of like we were saying earlier Google, YouTube social media, like that’s where everyone gets all their information. Yeah. If you control those things, like you can create reality you’re an occult magician as it were, of the modern day. And, and when you look at the history of who the Illuminati is, you’ll see all these called references. And it’s always about ritual magic. It’s always about man creating God becoming God. And this is exactly how they want to do it. The the ns curious I that you talked about that Smith montek. I hadn’t heard of that before. I’m definitely gonna look that up. It has in fact, it did expire just a couple years ago. I mean, that would make a ton of sense. It does. It’s do.

 

Gordon from TCG  15:45

I think that like, the way that the masses are controlled, they’re going to soak in with a service, something that’s brilliant, something that seems free and it seems to happen again and again and again, you know, like mobile phones. Like, oh my god. And then the next thing is like Snowden comes and goes like, Oh yeah, but they can hear everything you’re saying and people are like, Yeah, but they can play candy crush on like an unscented he pictures to my boyfriend’s. I just keep it like in general, I mean, like people are still around is when they were in a conversation with a friend. And then they go on Instagram and there’s an ad popping up. They’re like, Huh, I was just talking about that. They’re like, you fucking they’re listening, you know, put this out there. So Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, they drew everybody in, got everybody to put their, like, we all put our foot in our lives, you know, into this thing. And then it starts getting taken away from you. You know, Alex Jones got switched off David like recently got switched off from a 5g and lots of people who are like big deals, just getting switched off. And is it is it like, Susan Wojcicki and her sister and her brother in law, and you know, a certain set of people who are like, we are going to decide we’re the council of elders and we are going to decide that this is the message and if so, if that is the narrative, are they Illuminati? And what like, why these Illuminati then if they’re allowed into it?

 

Isaac Weishaupt  17:06

Yeah. So when you talk about all the Google types, I did a show I did super show called the Google conspiracy about a year ago. And we talked about Sergey Brin and his wife and his wife is involved in this trans humanistic 23andme system where they’re taking your your DNA and storing it so that when the when the big transhuman push happens in 20 years they can charge you you know, X amount of dollars to be like, Hey, I’ll get your DNA from back when you were healthy, I can harvest you a new kidney or whatever you need and it’s just gonna cost you X amount of dollars. But but the the it’s funny because the you so what I get often is, and it always surprises me sort of takes me back I get people that reach out to me and talk about how they used to follow my my first YouTube channel, Illuminati, watch your one back in You know, you know, battles 678 years ago, whatever, whatever it is, and, and they were like, Oh, I watched that when I was a kid and you really helped form my opinion and it kind of like, kind of blows my mind like the, you know, the fact of power of that. And so I try to be very careful about what I say and try to present my, my ideas and thoughts supported with evidence and facts and links. Because, you know, we as a truth community have an obligation to make sure we’re steering people in the right direction because they all see the manipulation happening through the mainstream channels, the psyops, the false flags, like people people know this intuitively. Most of them choose to stay ignorant to it. Some of them dabble over into the conspiracy world. And you we as troopers have to keep those people in our camp because you’ve got to persuade normal rational people to believe in this stuff. You know, as truth is or you know, stereotypically a little, maybe fringy or a little more open minded to things, but not everybody is. And the way I see things. If, if you’re the Illuminati and you want to create reality and create the narrative and trick people, all you need is like this herd immunity, sort of like the vaccines, you just need, like 80 90% of people to believe it, the 10% whatever you you get, we’ll just label you crazy. And that’s where it ends. And it’s funny because I always say this, it’s like the conspiracy theorists are always right. They always come out right and eventually

 

Gordon from TCG  19:31

over over the longest time,

 

Isaac Weishaupt  19:34

it always happens. And I’m, and I’m one of the most skeptical truckers out there. Trust me, I’m very skeptical of a lot of things a lot of people say and inevitably like we’re talking about the the smartphones you know, I remember when that was the big conspiracy is like all the smartphones are gonna, you know, that’s a tool for the Illuminati and, and I just did a show about COVID connections to technology and we talked about How there’s this, this this system, right? And let me explain it through like a quick example. So if you’ve got an Android phone, on the Android system, it’s got this little program right into it, then you have a certain type of TV that has an arrangement. Maybe I’m making this up Samsung, maybe they’ve got a agreement with Google, and the TV and the phone, they use ultrasonic communication that we can’t hear. It’s above the audible spectrum away human beings can hear. And they pass an ultrasonic signal. And when they know there’s another device, LinkedIn, they transfer data, and it and it could be for anything could be for advertising could be for location data, but what they’re doing is they’re building a database, a database much like we saw in Westworld season three if you followed Westworld watch the belt at the end. Yeah, the internet, man. Exactly. It’s all linked into 5g five G’s Internet of Things. Every single item you buy is going to be linked tend to this, this new internet of the digital matrix thing. They can have a location data of everything. And what the reason they want all that is because they want to predict human behavior to what they always kind of say is, it’s to is to sell ad space is to sell you products, which I’m sure is part of it. But there’s also this component of control. They want to control and manipulate your behavior much like you saw on Westworld. When they find out that this big black, the blacks on the row Rehoboam was collecting all the data and predicting how people would live how they would die, and then it would create it would have this, this infrastructure to create the world to make sure that happened, it would deny, you know, if you were going to die of a drug overdose, they want to make sure that that’s how it fits in and you don’t get a job that’s too good. So not even

 

Gordon from TCG  21:52

that though it’s a young Nian paradox because if they put it into the hallway, and it says, This guy is going to die over to go over those more than likely When you go in for a job interview, they won’t give you the job. Because they know that you have behaviors that are at risk behaviors. So you’re like, well, we don’t want you in the job. So not getting the job is almost ensuring that negative destiny. So it’s like it’s a young Empire. Like if I, if I do this, then this, you know, and yeah, it doesn’t it, doesn’t it. I think if you’re not more control, us and technology, the Internet of Things is probably like, it’s not as insidious as people are making it to be. It’s the people behind us power, like what is it far it’s sold as a convenience. And people are like, Oh, that’s, that’s great. It’s totally convenience. Like if you have a thing on your phone, you have it now. And you’re saying like, Am I really gonna say hey, Siri was gonna activate everyone’s phone. Like, Hey, can you remind me are like in st, is time Want to be able to buy such and such a ticket for a gig before it goes, you know, it goes too late. And you will get a message from your phone to say, hey, the office where you buy those tickets is closing in 25 minutes. I’m just going to take 20 minutes to walk there. So you have five minutes to get ready and go like it’s 10 minutes. Oh my god, that’s so convenient that we’re the forgotten about that, you know, like there’s these intricate, like, if that then this or like Zapier, like integrations between all these different apps between location and your voice recognition, all of this stuff. It’s sold as a convenience. And no one would ever think. Oh, yeah, but they can totally use that to like, predict what they’re going to do in the future are put something in my way that I know I will consume or I will engage with that will change my destiny. They’re changing people’s destinies, by knowing what their past is like a really intimate detail.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  23:50

Yeah, that’s real talk. In fact, there was a I don’t remember who it was for the life of me, a real smart man said something to the effect of, there’s going to be a time when people stops. When they when they were referring to their phones, spying on them when they might have been Edward Snowden said something like, there’s gonna be time when they stop saying, hey, they’re listening to me and they start saying, My phone’s listening to me. And that’s bad because we forget that there’s human beings behind the manipulation of this device. Yeah.

 

Gordon from TCG  24:18

You don’t know who’s actually listen, try for what reason that’s the that’s the thing like it’s the reasoning behind it, who’s using that information on what far we’re being sold as a convenience. It was a service called Google Now, that was around a few years ago. And what it would do you turn it on on your Android phone. And you know, if you if your usual wakeup time is eight o’clock and you got to be in work for nine, get up. You should shower and shave against the character. 20 minutes drive your dinner at 10 to nine all good in the hood, what Google net was doing, you put an alarm on for eight o’clock. Google now changed your alarm woke you up 20 minutes earlier. And when you pick up the phone and says hey, Google Now alert. The traffic on your usual route to work is very heavy. So you either have to get Now, if you want to go your usual route are, you can stay in bed for another 20 minutes and here’s a faster way to go. And then when you’re on the roof, it knows that when you walk past this cafe or like, Oh, that’s where you get your coffee. So it tells that person in the cafe, this guy is going to pass by every day. He’s a loyal customer. If you want to keep them as a loyal customer, I’m walking this way to work every day. Give them like a 10% discount thing. So it’s all for this remarketing you know, Facebook social media promotional tool to sell people extra stuff, but it fucking knows your habits better than you do. Yeah, scary.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  25:35

Yeah. And you know, we’re living in very dangerous times with this COVID thing. Here in America, we got to think of Clearview AI. And what it is. Yeah, yeah, that’s where they’re going. But before before they were talking about making this contact tracing app, they were taught they there was a program that law enforcement use and what the police would do is they would take photos of people out in the streets, that Maybe looks sketchy. And that photo will get checked in the Clearview AI’s database to find out who it is say okay this is Joe Blow he’s got a warrant for his arrest buzzer blah and a cop say oh, this is great you know it’s affecting what cops are protecting the citizens but But what’s even cheery about that? Well what’s worse than that is that when you find out where Clearview AI got their information, they scraped YouTube Facebook profiles, pretty much the whole international and and build up profiles of everybody. They’ve got it all. That’s why they did the 10 year challenge. Man people were doing a 10 year challenge

 

Gordon from TCG  26:39

going like, Hey, this is a 10 year challenge like you’re updating Facebook’s facial database for your fucking face.

 

26:46

Exactly.

 

Gordon from TCG  26:47

Yeah, it’s weird man. So the illuminator behind this who are the Illuminati in your opinion? We did an episode on the Illuminati. We went back all the way back to Adam Weishaupt and was my

 

Isaac Weishaupt  26:57

my great great great grandfather. So company now no LASIK, no relation. So what, you know, barring the last five months of my life, before COVID hit my world was researching the occult researching symbolism. The the idea that I had come to, and I still stand by things haven’t changed, that the Illuminati would be like this sort of group of thought leaders and these elitist who think they are here to steer the destiny of Americans of, you know, of the world population, I should say, Excuse me, but specifically, America’s more

 

Gordon from TCG  27:37

of us out there.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  27:38

Oh, America was like a CD experiment for them. Yeah, that’s why Manley P. Hall wrote the secret destiny of America. That’s where all the founding fathers were all these Freemasons. You know, but it’s basically an attempt to control the destiny of the world, to steer mankind through what they call the evolution of conscience. They think that they are here for a purpose. Because once you have so much power, so much influence so much wealth, there’s got to be something more, there’s got to be another brass ring to reach and that is controlling the world controlling, you know, in late enlightening the masses, so to speak. And they’ve been doing this for hundreds of years. They use what I argue as sort of dark energies to do this. And this is all knowledge that’s been hidden from the public, of course, passed down through ancient Mystery Schools, secret societies, all the way back to Pythagoras back in 500 BC, he was the first he was like the Oji of secret societies. And he sort of built the first one, and

 

Gordon from TCG  28:48

what Egyptian times like most of the Freemason symbolism and iconography is all based from like secret knowledge is from all types and BC like Egyptian construction and that’s what the main And repaired to Freemasonry is like those lads making giant obelisks and giant pyramids and stuff with knowledge that’s seemingly you know, you can’t repeat that today without serious technology, you know?

 

Isaac Weishaupt  29:12

Exactly the when you look at the founding of America here, people want to believe this was a Christian nation and you know, all those early Puritans that came over here were you know, the Christians getting away from the from the you know, for religious freedom they wanted to find religious freedom and that’s not really what happened when you look at Washington DC, all the layout, the alignment of it was with Sirius the all the occult symbolism all the pagan imagery, there’s no there’s no Jesus Christ imagery in Washington, DC. This country is not a Christian nation. It was based on ideas from Francis Bacon and john D. Were talking to aliens and channel experience and

 

Gordon from TCG  29:53

intagram

 

Isaac Weishaupt  29:55

Yeah, with the owl and all this shit and Oh, he mean throw. I mean, you’re Audience is smart enough. I’m sure they know all this stuff about all that. Yeah, yeah. So like, I think that it’s very clear that there is a hidden group of people who are very powerful and they’re running the show behind the scenes and then they tell the masses what they want to hear and most people are you know, they just go with the program. I’m not saying they’re too dumb, they just they just go with the flow and then the same people back behind the scenes like they set up stuff to make conspiracy theorists and troopers look crazy or look dumb or look evil or look dangerous. like we saw with common pain long when you dude showed up with AK which like, again, like I always go back to like we choosers had to be very careful because our audience, they’re very, they’re looking for the answers. That’s why, during the Age of COVID, the conspiracy world is on fire because mainstream people watch the news and for three months, we’re watching the news and like It seems like they don’t know what’s going on. How do they not know what disease looks like? Or who gets it or

 

Gordon from TCG  31:05

don’t know, that’s the thing. It’s a lot of people end up asking questions, right. And people, when they get answers to those questions, and they don’t like the answers, so they reject them. Yeah, what are the answers are real or not real? I think that’s like, for some people, that’s like a personal preference thing. You know, some people do if you tell them this is what happens. This is the crack Bill Cosby is a rapist who drugged his victims and had sex with them against their will. You know, Harvey Weinstein is a rapist. And they won’t believe about Bill Cosby. And they totally were that were Harvey Weinstein because of what they’ve been programmed to accept from a source that’s trusted. So what news and what media has become from the days when it was an establishment outlet? So you had the Walter Cronkite’s. This is the news and If that motherfucker said specious, that was the truth, because you knew when he’s there like ourselves to where I am this morning the President does dead. john f kennedy was shocked and everybody’s like, Walter Cronkite said that shit john Kennedy’s dead okay? And it was it was true when to the wasn’t but everything as he said up to that point was like the gospel of gold like gilded fact and news was like that for a really long time. So when now in the present day when people can broadcast themselves how expensive was a camera even up until like the early 2000s how expensive was hosting your own service I was watching Tom Green on the on the Joe Rogan show like I used to watch hungry when I was a kid. I remember him broadcasting stuff like going online, go waiting ages to download the video. I’m watching him do a chat show from his front room. And he’s talking about like the the actual like the the scale of his production was mine. He had like fucking wires running his own server. system the way that that Google have now they just are Amazon AWS or wherever, like Tom Green was broadcasting himself before anybody in the early 2000s on a cost hundreds of thousands dollars in equipment and bandwidth fees. So it’s making the so much easier for a child to pick up a phone and start a YouTube channel about frozen Chicken nuggies. It kind of dilutes the efficacy or dilutes the value of online information. So the people who are no more than money or gold or bonds or stocks for a company, you’re manipulating p it’s, it’s it’s a fiat currency of information. Right? So you’re manifesting, you’re manipulating people into going, which is the valuable thing. Stocks are all invaluable. They’re all intangible, you know, assets, you can’t actually hold them. But if somebody else finds value in the thing that you have, it’s worth money, but it’s not actually a thing. And if everybody else agrees that the thing that you have is worth money, they’ll start bidding off each other and they’ll pay more actual money for the thing that you have. So it’s it’s a perceived like subjective value. And that’s what’s out there happening the information to news to fact, to truth. Like you said truth or a few times instead of conspiracy terrorists, there’s almost there’s a black mark against conspiracy terrorists now since Trump took office. And I think it’s because they don’t want people looking up those terms. They don’t want people questioning the narrative, even though the narrative is super sketchy. It’s further divided America into this. There’s one establishment worshipping sector. And then there’s another kind of, I feel it’s underground. I feel it’s like, punk rock. I feel it’s it’s against the norms where it’s like, No, I’m not going to just take what the TV tells me. And they’re the ones that are being vilified. It’s a total flip flop from what it was, you know, even five years ago, when the people who were subversive were the progressives, they were the artists. They were the dancers in the polls. I know that all that shit is totally mainstream. It’s in every television show. It’s in every movie, The symbolism talent pushing this agenda down your neck. Where is this coming from? In your opinion, like who is behind this push this change to what we’re facing down like a transhumanist future? That’s like, totally politically correct, fully, like multi gendered pan race show, you know, this, this whole agenda that seems to be popping up, like who’s behind

 

Isaac Weishaupt  35:31

the people behind all this? And I argue that a lot of those ideas of the sort of reframe, like, I feel like those are all they’ve a lot of weapons of mass distraction, as it were. And I think that the gender stuff is part of that. You one could argue that it’s all sort of an occult pursuit of the bathmat, because it’s a male with the female breasts and all that which, again, that’s a symbol for reconciliation of opposites. Not necessarily saying that now we’re not really referencing gender. But if you look at propaganda, if you look at the history of propaganda, you can’t look at it without finding Edward Bernays back in the early 1930s. This was a guy who was using Freudian ideas. And of course, Freud was a capitalist, according to the author of going clear a book about Scientology, where, you know, Freud was all about these dream interpretations. And Bernays was tied in with the corporate corporate America. And what he was doing was scaring the masses into taking on new habits, and people were more naive back then it seems, but maybe not. I don’t know. Maybe not. Maybe people are just as naive today. But like he was the guy who got women to smoke cigarettes called torches of freedom, and got people to eat bacon and eggs for breakfast that originally it wasn’t a thing people used to eat like granola for breakfast. In fact, before that, there was no breakfast. If you were to do Breakfast. They used to think sometimes they would eat leftovers from dinner the night before, because back then you didn’t preserve meat. So meat would be green, and you’d have to cover it and catch up to eat it. Yeah. But he was also the one who got people to buy diamond rings, which are essentially worthless. But yeah, it’s like the same attitudes of like, oh, people are stupid. There’s a formula of how to deceive them. And that’s what again, that’s the role Google YouTube, all your social media is play. And if you talk about consolidation of power, what more effective consolidation of power than if you can reach out to Google YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, or Instagram, of course part of Facebook. And what it is, in my opinion, is an ancient the the sort of a call religion that the Illuminati appear to subscribe to. It’s this combination of neo platonism hermeticism and capitalism. And it’s, it’s all this sort of ancient philosophy. Fie, the idea of inversion, and you hear Sam Tripoli, always talk about this stuff about what’s up is down collapses. Right? And that’s that’s the truth evolution. Yeah, that’s that’s exactly what it is it’s it’s everything is inverted and and to me and this is where things are going into you know and if you’re asking me my subjective personal opinion this is what i think i think there is clear evidence they’ve always wanted to destroy Christianity they think and the reason they want that is because Christianity is an inversion of their true religion. They think that Jesus Christ at best was just one of the avatars of God wasn’t the final wasn’t the Messiah at all, you know, so they admire him on some levels, but he’s not the real, you know, final avatar, final Messiah that they’re waiting for. And they believe that God the Father, the one that created the Garden of Eden that created the world that we live in Through ritual magic through incantation through the logos, the word created the world and in capitalism, they say it’s through mental emanation through thought. Because they will they subscribe to this idea of as above so below and there’s this there’s this connection that we can sort of make if you know how to practice the right things the dark side, if you know how to go into the dark side so they so I think that they and that’s some real shit right there, man. I wrote one of my one of my you will borrow books about Star Wars conspiracy, it’s a shorter book, but in fact, what that some I’ve got, like a few short books and the reason for that, including the Star Wars one is because I started writing just a simple blog post about it. And like, next thing you know, 10,000 words in next thing, you know, I’m 20,000 words. And I’m like, Damn, this is way too long for a post on so I just packaged it as a book. Yeah. But yeah, it’s all this idea of the inverted ratio. And it’s always it’s always Gnosticism and agnosticism tied into Crowley tied into all these ancient belief systems, the Knights Templars. And it’s it means those capable of knowing and there’s a knowledge and gnosis that came from Lucifer came from the Luciferian Spirit came from the serpent in the Garden of Eden told Adam and Eve they could be like Gods their third eye would be open which the third eye is the all seeing eye which is the same as the Brow Chakra which the Brow Chakra is denoted with the two horns which ties us into Moloch and you know, sacrifice of the kids and all that stuff. But yeah, I don’t wanna get too far ahead of the subjects you wanted to stick

 

Gordon from TCG  40:40

to but yeah, well I mean there’s so many terms flying out there that that can be like unpacked or whatever. So like if you’re if you’re talking about Christianity then right like, why why In your opinion, is Christianity like the default like the good one on how what like, why is the dark side not acceptable

 

Isaac Weishaupt  40:59

because So like, I don’t know what the right term is. The, the purpose of the occultist is what leads me to believe that Christianity is the right faith. Because these people who I don’t agree with who are manipulative, and deceitful are trying their damnedest to destroy Christianity and not so much the other religions. Because it is an inversion of their belief system, which if you watch the Zeitgeist films, you’ll see this, this attitude of, oh, Christianity, just based off of all these other gods that had the same story, and if you if you dig into like, no, that’s not it’s just not true. Like

 

Gordon from TCG  41:43

some of the things that Christianity says, that’s the inversion of what like the Illuminati believe or what Satanists or whatever believe so like, well as industry

 

Isaac Weishaupt  41:53

so, and let me give you some background because I know I know half as happy as or pie rolling Your eyes like Jesus this guy is a truth or until it comes to religion then he’s on board with the one of the biggest manipulations and controlling things in society. And I get that like I get it put put

 

Gordon from TCG  42:11

your hand into my sight I can usually believe.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  42:15

And, and my thing is that organized religion is made by man inspired by God. Therefore, it is susceptible. It’s, you know, anything of this world of this material world is susceptible to evil. You know, you look at the Catholics and all the you know, they’re covering up the decline of little little kids and Jesus come on, should we and we, we grow them here. Yeah. So like, I’m not here to defend organized religion, but the story of Jesus Christ, and if you look at his teachings, a lot of the stuff he came to rectify the message of God and a lot of the stuff that organized religion today wants to you know, He wants to fight for like, you know, anyway I don’t want to get into religious elements but

 

Gordon from TCG  43:06

no yeah but I mean some of the some of the things that I always talked about he was an allegorical kind of a guideline for living a good life. Yeah. And also with like, practical applications of like hygiene and sexual practices that are being taken now as the gospel and imposed upon people by like conservative Christian right wingers, like still abortion and all but by putting the Bible says also like don’t eat shellfish, you know, sin, because treehouse years ago, he couldn’t keep shellfish fresh and if you add that you get for HANA stellaria. So they’re like, I don’t know how are we going to make them not eat the prawns? They get the prawns and they ship everywhere. Put it in a book that God says you’re not allowed to do put it in the book. Okay, we put no gayness no prawns, like that’s, that’s the level of my understanding totally how it works. Totally.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  43:59

In orthodoxy, we focus on New Testament when Jesus came, you know, Jesus wasn’t like, Oh, don’t eat the shellfish. He was just it was just love, you know, you got to have empathy because back then, that was sort of a radical concept for people. Or so the story goes that empathizing for one another was kind of difficult, it wasn’t something they did. So to answer the question, the the ideas that Christianity provides, that the Illuminati doesn’t like, is that there’s a good and there’s an evil. And this is the crux of the whole argument here. Whereas the Gnostics and these Illuminati types, they believe that, Well, sure, there’s good and there’s evil, but the evil isn’t bad. You don’t avoid the evil. This is, you know, and this goes into the arguments of Freud and Bernays and Carl young, they talked about the, the, the the ID, the ego and the super ego, right? Well, you know, the super ego is, and I’m paraphrasing, while And I’m not a medical doctor or an expert on this, but super ego is kind of like the social norms and the constructs. And then the it is your like instinctual animalistic desires. And then in between Yeah, the reptile brain and in between you got the ego, which is your regulator that determines how much you know how much you abide by the rolls, and how would you break the rolls. And in the call, they say, well, you got to destroy the ego. You got to get rid of that thing. Because the reality to them is, there’s no good there’s no evil, they’re all I mean, let me rephrase that. There’s good and there’s evil, but neither one is bad. Carl Jung infamously said I would rather be whole than be good, because what he was saying is he wants to reconcile the opposites. He wants to embrace the good and the evil. And that’s how these weirdos prove to each other how woke they are, is and when you see stuff about like, you know, sacrificing little kids and, and and raping people and, you know, ritual sacrifice and feeding on the fear of little kids and all this crazy stuff. They’re like Who the hell do this stuff? It’s these people because they’re proving each other how woke they are by saying, like, Look, there’s no such thing as a llama, I’m gonna do this horrific thing. And, you know, it’s just, it’s just the way it is it is what it is man. And this is what Star Wars was talking about, because because he has to say, he’s there to balance the force. He’s not there to eliminate the dark side. He’s there to balance it, meaning he’s embraced the whole spectrum of what is and in their philosophy. That’s what it’s all about. It’s about embracing the good and the evil. Evil isn’t bad. That’s a construct given to you from the Bible. From the all the Abrahamic religions, essentially but, but it’s all the you know, Halina Blavatnik key jack Parsons, Alice Bailey, Alistair Crowley, all these guys. They all talk about how the story of Christ and Christianity is the biggest problem It’s the lying hypocrisy. It’s because I think Christianity was it must be some essential element that is preventing people from being enlightened or evolving to the next step of where they want to take us. That’s to the best I could understand why that is.

 

Gordon from TCG  47:18

Do you think that like, for my position like I’m a Roman Catholic, you know, I’m not born again Christian, but we, you know, we read about the teachings of Jesus and you know, the rules you’re supposed to live by. and Roman Catholics particularly have a load of fucking crazy stupid rules. Do you know about like, times you can consume alcohol and you’re not allowed to eat red meat on a Friday it’s only fish you’re allowed to eat and this kind of is the same like, you know, the Jewish people, you know, Saturday or Friday, depending on which, you know, you’re not allowed to do anything if you’re really religious Jew, like you can’t even answer the phone or like touch anything electric, you know, on a Sunday and, like there’s all of these fucking crazy rules. I could, I could say something really snarky now about like masks for protecting against Corona because it’s just, you know, doesn’t push it. They’re these little arbitrary methods of control, you know, death by 1000 cuts, it is placing a binary this is all just coming from the top of my head. And so I’m trying to find the words. It’s planting the binary binary perception of how the world works in a human mind that shouldn’t be split into Do you know what I’m saying? Like there’s a there’s a there’s a cognitive brain and there’s a creative brand and both work in harmony, the left hand part you know, it said to be there has to be an evil and go to a black and white everything is in contract. But like the soul, the human soul shouldn’t be in contrast, it should be one on one with everything. And I think that creating, whether it be Illuminati or saying In this are Christians creating a paradigm of good and evil is still creating a contrast within the human soul in an effort to either control or to avoid or, or push back against a controlling mechanism so that the human can feel free happy whole, you know parents have something which is what the soul is like yarns far they want to be connected. So if you choose Christianity you give up a whole site of your life of all the bad things. No Lankan no drinking no writing your wife’s sister, no fucking prawns, no fucking up the IRS. You know, there’s all these rules that you’re not allowed to do right? And in exchange for that you get to have a direct connection with God and you get to, you know, like, let them wash over you and and feel nice about yourself, which is clean feet near Eagle a little bit right where you’re at. I’m a really good person. God is rewarding me or whatever is the opposite of that nosh making skit making children scared and then poking them and drinking their blood. Like it’s like some people do such good things and an effort to counteract that people do such awful awful things. But it’s all part of that, that human journey like that they’re wanting to feel connected to a group of other people who feel the same way. If there was an old goat or even if there was no black and white, we’d all kind of feel that connection. I think that happens true like drugs. True. You know, deep and meaningful conversations you have like black dudes who go into what’s up black dude, he converts a hold of the KKK dudes by just like having a chat with them. And under like, Oh, I had this whole like paradigm in my mind where like, my blood was pure and your blood was dirty and blah, blah, blah. And and and it was somehow like he words he just kind of washed that away and you’re like, Oh, yeah, no, we’re all sound. Gentlemen, like even Christianity that’s in its Cree in its system of control. You’re kind of saying it

 

Isaac Weishaupt  51:02

sort of forces people to the rails a little bit and it keeps them from connecting is kind of what you’re thinking.

 

Gordon from TCG  51:06

Yeah, but you’re connected with everybody that’s on your side of the rail. And that’s a no for you because you feel like oh, yeah, no, I’ve so many people here, the army of Christ, like cuca onward Christian soldiers. It’s the same with Muslims where they’re all like we are all together, man. Let’s fuck it out. Yeah, buoy and it’s really around in a circle around the big black stone. And like, hit each other on the Hades with swords. And then like, you know, fucking Pull, pull up an infidel apart by the limbs or something like that. And then like, just don’t eat for like, a whole month, like, whatever it gets you to feel connected to other people. If there’s enough people doing it, they’ll do that shit. Like, are the Manson family like if there’s older people doing this? You’re like, yeah, this is okay.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  51:49

Yeah, we have a real, there’s like a real sort of tribalism, that we all want to be a part of a group. Yeah. And the here’s what here’s the kind of thing is like A lot of the New Age concepts, a lot of these ideas of the sort of collective unconsciousness and the sort of you know, if you if you read there’s a guy named father Seraphim rose he was an orthodox monk who wrote a book in the 60s talking about orthodoxy and the new religion of the future. And he was basically a conspiracy theorists back in his day, and he saw the writing on the wall about how this was all going to go down how science fiction was going to lead us down this path of the ecumenical ecumenical ism where, in his argument, which, which I could see, he says that the reason you have all these new age ideas, these ideas of like, well, all religions are kind of right. It’s all the same God is because it’s watering down Christianity. It’s diluting the effectiveness of it is what he claimed right. And, and it’s hard for me because I read some of these new age things. I I’m really interested in Buddhism a lot and yeah, I meditate right? And a lot of those things are very helpful to me. And I think, man, I don’t know like, it’s hard for me to really put my flag in the ground and say, Nope, Orthodox Christianity is though, the only thing that can possibly be true. But according to a while the doctrine like that’s that’s the truth about it and ecumenical ism and the pluralism and all these ideas of that you see very prevalent A lot of people say they’re spiritual now they’re not religious, and they pick and choose bits of everything. They’re like, Oh, yeah, I’m like, I’m a, I do yoga, Buddhist, Hindu, Christian meditation and all this stuff. And what I think is happening there’s there’s sort of parallels because you talked about the the idea of like fasting, right? And in the Orthodox Church, we just got done with a giant fast and like, the Orthodox fast is pretty hardcore. If you follow it to the tee to the how much you’re supposed to do. You know, you’re abstaining from a lot basically for the 40 days, and I don’t, I’m too weak to do it. But the The, the idea there it runs in parallel with a lot of these are called New Agey sort of concepts. And it goes back to again you got to you got to look to the history to know the future. It goes back to these Dionysian and Apollonian rituals, where basically what people did was they were trying to make contact with the gods with the divine they call it so they would practice certain things they would, they would abstain from me, they would abstain from sex, they would abstain from, you know, dancing and rhythmic things. Or on the other hand, they were like Footloose. Exactly, they know what they were doing. Yeah.

 

Gordon from TCG  54:40

The symbolism and Footloose are we should we should go true lashes. Oh, okay. I should Yeah,

 

Isaac Weishaupt  54:44

I haven’t seen in frickin 20 years. 30 years,

 

Gordon from TCG  54:47

you will not dance in this town. Come on, come down, have a dance man.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  54:53

But, but the idea is you can either and then on the other hand, you overload on all those things. You do the drugs. You You got the drumming, trance and all these things, both methods of making contact with the divine. And it’s very similar to what the Christian grades prescribed and, and what a lot of people and I went through this too I was in a book club at my church and we were reading all these books about monks and how they would live and how, you know, you weren’t supposed to do this and you can’t do that. And, you know, you can’t even have a little finger in your butt because God forbid, you know, all this crazy, all this stuff. And it’s like, I’m like, god damn. Like, I can’t do nothing. Like all all these things. Like, I can’t do anything. Like what kind of life is this? Yeah, but what they’re saying is like, this is the prescribed and it’s kind of, it’s kind of like CrossFit, right? We’re gonna bring this into CrossFit. You go to CrossFit, and that’s my other cult. And they’ll say, Okay, here’s your prescribed workout, you got to do you know, 135 pound plus jerks and this and then the other. And then you go in there. thank Jesus. I can’t do 135 pounds, it’s like, well, that’s fine, you don’t have to do that. That’s the prescribed method of you want to, you know, build up. So you’re going to go down to 95 pounds until you’re ready, you know, a year or two from now you’ll go to the 135. And it’s just a prescribed way of living. You don’t have to, there’s no shame behind it. We live in a world where we shame ourselves to death. And I don’t know how much that’s like human nature. But the idea is that, you know, you’re, you’re, you’re looking at a prescribed way of doing things. It’s not a one size fits all approach. There’s plenty of people out there that are violating the rules on the daily and trying to get right with God and asking for forgiveness and trying to get on the right path to do the right things. It’s not like Jesus came and said, well, the prostitute ain’t gonna make it. She ain’t gonna make the cut like No, that’s not what he did. Like he came and said the opposite and was kind of shitting on the people that were mean to the prostitute, right? I said the opposite

 

Gordon from TCG  56:59

as long She was willing to repent and change her ways. She couldn’t stay a prostitute Erica with Jesus. That’s the crime of this the thing. So what I’m what I’m thinking is from watching, because I want to take apart this Illuminati Satanism thing, because like, I’m not totally like off the reservation. We talked about St. Neyland. See what you think as far as like organized religion Christianity like these devout religions go and if you take the other side to do is that well, it’s like fucking taking like Alister Crawley like taking like a 20 year old law of the desert and, and fucking the airsoft until he wasn’t until it he literally went insane. He went in. He came back here to the desert in Egypt and your mind was like, I had so much sexism. He’s gone crazy, right? And he was like, Yeah, yeah, I have to do that as part of a magic ritual. Like those things that people do. Getting fucking bananas drunk, taking loads of drugs, doing loads of DMT doing loads of ecstasy LSD. The getting involved with like, you know, crazy habitual sex addiction, our, you know, food overeating and all of these things that are like base physical desires. They’re also counteracted by stuff like people who get absolutely fascinated with meditation who go away to the you talk about that in your, one of your most recent books, the dark path, getting lost in the abyss, you know, when you look into the abyss, the Abyss looks into you, you go so far into the meditation game, trying to shed the eagle which is the, the kind of the Buddhist way like you have to walk through the field of shift the samsara and you have to recognize that you’re a human but in order to achieve enlightenment, which is the freedom from like personal regret the freedom from, you know, the inner voice, the self talk that will reduce you down to your physical form. You can be a spiritual being, you can be connected with God, like all of those things be a virtuous unreal Just like prayer or fasting are meditation or are eaten fucking Lord’s McDonald’s are eaten, you know, a bunch of a bunch of tablets and getting fucked up every single day. All of those things are just a way to get out of your human body to feel different from a car period form to be closer to God, or whatever you feel God is like, both of those things are looking at the same result end result, which is satisfaction, feeling of connection. Why is the propaganda around one better than the other? One is virtuous and good and the other one is marked as evil. But in the Christian religion, Muslims are evil. I’m fighting back and forth, it was fucking wars thought for hundreds of years. Because like even in Ireland, we had like a, you know, a terror like terrorist activity and a kind of a civil war over a really manouche difference in the beliefs of the Christian church. Like a couple of little different things, and then people are fucking blown Hotels over it’s because they believe in a slightly different religion. Like is it not just an identity that you want to conform to to be involved with people and whatever those activities are will get you closer to God that’s religion from the person outwards and then the people who run the religion from the religion inwards it’s a method of control of your populace on the use practical applications of their religious beliefs to ensure their success on their feet or financial our you know, like physical enrichment whether they buy land like the Christian church owns more land than anybody and on the planet like Scientology’s very quickly catching up it’s a fucking it’s a it’s a it’s a real estate game. They’re buying the richest buildings and the richest land and they have the money and they don’t have to pay taxes like they’re bringing it all up. You know, Christianity said like you’re not allowed to use condoms are not allowed use birth control, because we want you to fuck and make more Christians, please You’re more into religion to make it stronger. So like these rules from the inside out, you’re looking to be with God from the outside in, they’re looking for you to stay a man.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:01:11

Yeah. And that goes back to and I don’t I don’t subscribe to a lot of the dogma, which, you know, is frowned upon heavily in my face. Because I think that, you know, like I said before it’s we’re in this material realm where or Satan resides. And a lot of these I mean look, we go to war with people and night we’re killing kids and we’re doing all this shit. It’s like, you know, I’m more of like a kind of more viewed Jesus as like a hippie which I don’t know if that’s just out of my personal selfishness because I that’s more of me and who I am. It’s I’m more of a, hey, let’s all get along kind of guy. And however that works out is how I want it to work out. And, you know, if you watch Steven Greer, his latest close encounters with a fifth kind, which I always shit on, and I’ll shit on Steven Greer, but I kind of poke fun at him about that. Chairman meditated and chown dead aliens to the desert what can we do with

 

Gordon from TCG  1:02:05

Iran? No drones meditation Why can’t we do great guys feet to the fire over that shit man the Steven up Yeah,

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:02:10

that was like bows I told I was like dude that was the best episode you’ve ever done I love that and you got you know i don’t know i don’t know if he thought maybe it was shouldn’t have went that way or something but I thought man I thought they were both they were both respectfully disagreeing I thought

 

1:02:27

they were the half

 

Gordon from TCG  1:02:29

yeah like your goal but like Stephen Stephens charging for nothing because he’s like, if you come to me, I’ll be your conduit to talk to God which is an alien or whatever.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:02:42

That’s essentially what he’s doing right because I looked it up to because and I’ve always thought rear was kind of a nutjob and I watched the Close Encounters of the fifth I said, you know, this guy’s making a lot of sense now because like he was into sort of like this, you know, hippie, let’s all get along attitude and how you know, the world is deceptive to get us to fight with one And that’s kind of some my believing and I thought man maybe he’s right and I looked it up and yeah sure enough man and then trips out there with Dr. Greer a few grand each with and, but like it’s enticing because you’re like, Well shit I want to see the photos I mean if you guarantee me I’ll see a UFO for 3000 bucks I’ll pay it. You know?

 

Gordon from TCG  1:03:19

You don’t see it you just feel it it’s in your mind body it’s like you’re, you’re connected to them. And to be honest, if I had paid three and a half grand to see an alien and then it was brought to your meditation I’d be like, and someone asked me at the end like did you see daddy? Yeah, did you have three and a half grand? They fucking did. like you’d think you’d just be like you convinced yourself like Yeah, fuck it like I did. Yeah, that’s not something

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:03:42

I don’t want it was a bit of a sunken cost thing. It’s like spread the money of course you’re gonna be our greatest thing ever loved it? Of course. But um so yeah,

 

Gordon from TCG  1:03:50

the way we want to talk about Satan and and yeah, like specifically in the follow up answer to the fucking huge ass question. And then they asked like, who is saying and why do you Why have you got like attitudes towards money boilers for now Why? Why are you Why are you so adamant that it is the direct path that is the the left hand path the wrong way? Is it because it’s manipulating people because Christian Christians, Christian church does that too. Like where where is Satan on your barometer of awfulness? What do you understand?

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:04:32

This is great. So when I started this journey back in, I wrote my first book or grand unified conspiracy theory, which I you know, anyone’s first work they’re not too proud of and I fit into that camp where I kind of looked through what I wrote the first book, I’m like, God, Jesus is George Lucas

 

Gordon from TCG  1:04:48

and does he come back and change that man grand? Oh, there we go.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:04:53

And I you know, I started off with, you know, saying like, Look, I was born and raised a Christian, but I’m not a good one, I have lots of doubts and problems with it. And what I didn’t like at the time was a lot of the videos I’ve seen back this is back and of course, YouTube’s heyday of conspiracy a lot of the videos would always be like look at this dark thing happening and look at this thing happened. It was real interesting. I was like, oh, wow, was this and then it’d be like, now you know you gotta join God come find me and come to my church and I was always like, come on, man. Stop it with the sales pitch.

 

Gordon from TCG  1:05:28

I got stung and I was like, the mark of the beast if you don’t have it, you should buy now sell and all this stuff and I was like, Oh, yeah, I’m gonna flick up with microchips in this man that’s like

 

1:05:38

to come to the Arkansas crass Church of

 

Gordon from TCG  1:05:41

immaculate seventh Adventist day of rest. And you’re like, Yeah, fuck, bro.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:05:45

Yeah, it’s like they would hook me until they went into this sort of sales pitch and, and I kind of read the book and I thought, okay, here’s my here’s my attempt to separate the two because I hate it when they always tie religion into this idea of the Illuminati. And over the years, it sort of culminated to the me writing the dark pass where I came to the, the, I came to the conclusion that you can’t separate the two because if you want to talk about who’s the Illuminati, when you get into it, when you find out the power structure, when you find out there’s a control system, you can’t find that without seeing the occult dogma behind it and the occult dogma behind it behind the Freemasons behind the rosicrucians the capitalists all these people is always goes to Lucifer as the Savior it always does 100% of the time

 

Gordon from TCG  1:06:45

not country books.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:06:48

Non country music I don’t listen to country music so I can’t testify to that but Elena love ASCII talk. I mean, they all talk about it right? Well, that’s he said the Satan is is actually of course the enemy of God. But in reality, Satan is the highest Divine Spirit. And this is the called wisdom on earth. And that’s, that’s what inspired all of the things that conspiracy world looks at, like the whole idea of NASA and the Nazis, of course, goes back to jack Parsons, who was working with croley. And jack Parsons says, I’m the Antichrist, and I’m gonna I’m here to get rid of the lying hypocrisy of Christianity and Crowley said, I’m here to bring you the ion of horrors, the New Age, the age of the crown and conquering child and basically, all the old gods will be will be no longer and every man and woman will be a star. It’s this it’s they have this obsession with if you could boil it down to like a short argument. What they want is for man to enlighten him or herself and abandon the old ways the religious control systems And find Lucifer as the the saving the source of savior that much like the story of Prometheus stealing the flame from the gods and giving it to man that’s the technology, through technology through man’s own abilities, we will evolve man into the next stage the transhuman and man will become God. And their prophecies will be fulfilled that man can be God, much like the serpent told Adam and Eve, you can be like Gods if you just follow me. And they believe in that they think, Well, you know, God built this prison planet they were on and we’re going to get out of it. We’re going to get we’re going to find using lucifers inspiration and technology we’re going to find a way out of this prison and that’s what’s going to give us the transhuman which is going to start out as a sort of supplementing technology. augmenting the human form, but ultimately ends in the destruction of man, which is what you see all these, when you when you research a lot of the Illuminati ideas you always find this death cult obsession of killing people and nihilism and all this stuff because they genuinely want to destroy mankind and not in the sense of like, Oh, we want to nuke everybody and everyone’s gone. No, they want to evolve mankind and have a manmade God, which is going to be digital consciousness. Everything points to that everything I ever see points to this thing. And we keep going down the track. So this thing of the trans human movement, Moore’s Law, increasing computational power, the idea of avatars I mean, COVID is a prime example. I mean, this has conditioned us. I remember when COVID started, I was like, in complete shock. I was like, I was all of a sudden I was working from home from my day. job. And I was like, this sucks. How am I gonna do this? I can’t do my job from home. And like, slowly it’s like, Oh, I think I could do this. Now I’m to the point where I’m like, I’m never going back in the office. I don’t want to see those losers again. All it takes is time and

 

Gordon from TCG  1:10:15

anyone forget condition takes time. Yeah, and there’s new terms like the new normal and stuff like that. Like it’s it’s not a lot of celebrities coming out and like endorsing, you know, passive behaviors to just accept this new normal this. You said, you said this from prison planners. Like if the if the whole point was to get enlightened enough so that we can get off this prison planet. Where do we go? If watching how many hours? Yeah, well, there’s watching the documentary about like Pablo Escobar, El Chapo with it not be better to be the fucking king of the prison. Just stay in the front and just have everything yeah.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:11:03

all your

 

Gordon from TCG  1:11:04

bases satisfied. And then everybody else is a prisoner as well, but like you’re the most powerful prisoner. I think that’s probably the problem you have with the Satanists are the Illuminati, the people that you caught, like these celebrities, these very high powered politicians, they know that we’re in this differences. They know we’re in a prison, they know that we’re being controlled. They’re the ones doing it, but they just want to be the fuckin Pablo Escobar errs. They want to go, Okay, I won’t go to your prison. But I create my own prison, which is really just a house. And I fill it with like drugs and prostitutes and a swimming pool on a tennis court and have a really good time. But let’s call it a prison, quote unquote. And I live this way and then you guys can live whatever way you want and do what I say. Like it’s it’s the Luciferian way seems to be a shortcut to get the physical benefits of being a human on this planet, whereas the older way is like Christianity is totally do unto others as you would have them do unto yourself like everything is a fair system keep everybody on the same level whereas those variants like fuck that make money fuck bitches to window to the wall to sweat drips from this is my shit I’m taking mine I’m Gary Vee and this motherfucker like whatever i want i guess and anybody that doesn’t believe stash can suck off and go get a job you know picking up rubbish somewhere Do you mean like to rip on people who won’t Yeah, there’s there’s levels to

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:12:33

this shit as they say. The you talk about the wealth that some people get. Especially like the celebrities, the entertainers, and we all know like all these celebrities, entertainers. They go nuts. Why do they go nuts? Why do they do it? I mean, we go to your audience knows. I think it’s because there’s they get they get in just close enough to See that they’re involved with a Luciferian element. Like, for instance, you’ve got these handlers in the entertainment industry. And they, they approach Justin Bieber as a kid and say, Hey, so we’re gonna, we’re gonna pass you around and do some violating things to you. Yeah. And but you’re gonna get this big contract, and you and your family, you’re loaded down for life. And they think, and and, and I’m making that up. I don’t know if that happened. I assume I assume it happened based on tons of evidence that this always happens. And his breakdowns, much like Britney Spears and all this stuff. Yeah. So all these people get treated terribly. But you’re so desperate for it, that you’re willing to do it because you’re like, I mean, yeah, but I could be set for life. I could be a god on this earth, because that’s what the handlers are here to do is to you know, we used to be everyone used to be a pagan. It used to be a pagan society where we believed in a pantheon of gods right and We got rid of that essentially with Abrahamic religions. And now, our modern day gods that are worshipped are these celebrities and entertainers, they get treated as such they get admired as such. For sure that’s what happens. Let me let

 

Gordon from TCG  1:14:13

you set the pantheon of gods like the Greek gods Zeus and all these guys. The reason that that got stopped breathing that diluted away was because those Gods came down and started talking all the people and having demigods and semi gods and they diluted their their godly lives by pumping their milk into good looking young, one young Greek young ones, doesn’t mean we’re going like, Hey, you know, I’m a god. Let me get in for a second like, oh, okay, your God, let me take him like that she was contienen not because they just stopped believing in the gods because the gods were like, well, I’m jealous of humans get to live a human life and having love and loss and experience and all that stuff. I can’t have that because I’m immortal. I can’t experience time. I you know, things don’t like sugar does not taste the sweet if there’s no, there’s no gamble in losing that sugar. Like, it’s like if you only get it once in a while, it’s so much more delicious. So you have everything. Nothing is worth anything. Because you have everything you start looking for those more extreme. So the gods of Olympus were like no, no more than like the air cons I know you’re a fan of David all you can you hear talk about that kind of stuff like the air cons, or the jinn or the you know, the alien, the aliens that are about to come down and take over the planet like, you know, Operation Blue Beam or what have you. And those guys live outside of time and space there. They don’t have a car period formed. They’re jealous of us humans who get to live a linear timeline, who experience love and loss and emotions and you know, base instincts and feelings and all this kind of stuff. And we are made from their spirit in our bodily form. So we still feel we have a connection with that God. So when you say to somebody, like a little Luciferian way is to act like you yourself are a God, but somewhere deep inside you are trapped in the human’s body. So if you go too far into it, just like if you go too far into like, you know, at meditation, you kind of lose yourself. If you go too far into satisfying yourself with delicious foods. You fucking die early have gout or heart disease. Like if you’re doing anything too much, you’re going to get lost in it. So like the Luciferian idea of picking somebody like Justin Bieber in San Ali for your talent in exchange for your quote unquote, your your soul. We will give you everything that a human being can have on this planet right now. And he would ever want money like fam nor is he sex. Anything you ever ever wanted you can have. All you have to do is Just let us be your handlers let us you do what you’re told. And you can have that. So that’s the reward at the highest level. And at the lowest lowest level where someone has a piece of shit. They’re like, a bomb on the street, no relatives, no skills, no job, no tape, no shoes like are fucked. But they’re still happy. Because they know that when I die, I’m going to go to heaven. So it’s okay now to suffer now, because when they go to heaven, I’ll have the peace. But the thing is, most people would choose to have it now. And that’s what the loose fairing thing is. It’s like, I want it now while I’m alive. I don’t want to wish until I’m gone. I’m joined back with Gods. And also that that’s a Christian thing where it’s like you can’t have it now. You can only have it after you die. And there is no other God except for God. You are not a god. Don’t think you’re a god. There’s no garden in you at all. You’re a human and do Enjoy yourself you can only enjoy yourself after you die Do you see like the correlations between those Yeah, like I think the Luciferian ideas like have it now

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:18:11

yeah yeah it is exactly have it now it’s a sort of embrace the material world with each other. It yeah and and Crowley was talking about. So to do with that world stuff if you dig into croley what he was saying was, we all have a, what they call in the alchemist of personal legend universal draw the some something in the universal that what do you call like a true purpose, your true will and he says do it that will means you need to find what your true purpose is your personal legend and pursue it at all costs at all costs. Doesn’t matter. There’s no such thing as good and evil. There’s no right or wrong. you pursue the thing you’re supposed to do with full intensity Nothing should stop you.

 

Gordon from TCG  1:19:01

Gary Vee says, dangerous. Gary Vee says the same shit. He’s on. Just be like, follow your dream. Follow your dream. If you gotta go out there, you gotta hit up. You gotta buy you buy some shit, buy some masks, sell it, buy it for 50 cents sell for $2 you follow your dream name making millions like Gary Vee is out there. Doing funk, everybody, you are the most important thing

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:19:25

in here, and you’re right in the sense that like all of these ideas that we’re talking about, there’s there’s merit to it, so long as you don’t lose yourself in it. Yeah, and, and as far as like the fallacy impact. You know, Bieber was breaking down crying a couple months ago because he felt bad for Billy Eilish on camera. On during the interview. He’s He’s sitting there bubbling the movement about Billy Eilish and he feels bad for her. And like, I don’t know what people think when they see that when I see that. I think he’s crying. Because he had to sell his soul on some level, whatever. We wanted to find that as to make this happen, and he knows Billy Eilish did the same thing. Maybe. And I kind of got shows on Billy Eilish because she’s very connected.

 

Gordon from TCG  1:20:12

Like, come to me on that one. I don’t think Billy Eilish sold her soul in the same way that Justin Bieber days. I think Billy Eilish is super smart. She’s really plugged in, clued in. She knew the game before the game started in her life. Like she wore all those bags, because she know that entities were growing in. She knew that that shit was happening that she was going to be sexualized. So she wore a bunch of baggy clothes to be like, I’m not gonna let that be a part of my identity. Because I know that interest is part of the of the machine that pumps people out. Oh man what’s going on to fuckin internet bro my internet which I gotcha I got your back on tend to miss truth here, man. The Internet keeps on bro. I fucking Never Have you never. It’s only when I’m in live streaming when people like the last time it happened. It’s when you’re talking with some real shifts and the fucking internet switches off. Man Billy Eilish knew what She was doing she knows the business she she was watching for a long time and then you know her family’s connected. She knows all the people that are in there. Yeah. They were like okay, listen, your your mom’s got big knockers you want to cover them covered and pumps up because the next thing that there’s going to be like, you know, people taking pictures of you sexualizing Yeah, we don’t want to be another Miley Cyrus or whatever. Like she’s like yeah sound so she was like go to big clothes. And she doesn’t use her body as America until it’s all about the music. And I think that’s really admirable and she she knows more what she’s doing than Justin Bieber who was like you know, in like string vest like, biting his bottom lip and they didn’t really know that he was creaming knickers all over the world. He was just told to do it. He did it. And he feels really bad but that’s why he looks like like a homeless golf caddy now like he’s fucking he looks like he got he got fired for a porno because he set himself on fire on sash like that’s it’s weird like everything is changed and weird mustache and it’s just I think your your book to darkness. talks about the occult symbolism in Hollywood in movies in music. And what are some of the most like glaringly obvious examples I read part one of the chapters about Lady Gaga? Which I thought was right Yes. Really sit like I think she’s a fucking real direct motherfucker like,

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:22:21

Yeah, for sure. She’s um, she’s very curious. She’s got I’ve been I’ve been sort of hyper focused on her for years. I’ve got I’ve got so many articles on her. I’ve got I sort of compiled a best of article that has everything about all over the symbolism that she’s ever done. But yeah, she got her start with she was working with another female singer that looked very similar name Lena Morgana, and they had a very sort of similar look but not sound. Then, Lena Morgana strangely dies. And all of a sudden Lady Gaga shoots up on the charts and becomes a household name, shortly after. Now, what was curious was that her mom arlena Morgan, his mom said that lady gaga was holding her soul. And she wants her daughter’s soul to be free. What does that mean? That shit like? He like tunnels like drops Lina Morgana have to say to the cliff to fill up the soulstone because he needs it. You know, it seems like that’s why I haven’t watched the Avengers. I don’t know what happened. That’s curious. Yeah, that’s long for big man. I like the superhero movies. So much symbolism. You’re gonna get it. That’s your next book. And I know I started I was keeping up with all the superhero stuff, but like, I just, it’s not my thing. I like our movies and called movies. And, you know, once they started putting these three hour things, I’m like, Oh, brother, give me a break. And I dropped off anyway. Yeah. So. So Lady Gaga, she, um, and what was curious was that, what I found and what I talked about in the book, Was that Lena Morgana was also on a TV show about ghost stories. Well, okay, let me clarify this. I’m trying to make sense. So it was like a ghost stories with celebrities and Gina gore Sean was telling a story about how she was in this haunted hotel. Yeah. And when she’s doing the flashback part of the episode that’s Lita Morgana pretending you know, adding air. Yeah, please. Okay. So yeah, Gershon. She, um, she was telling her ghost story about this haunted hotel she was in, okay, which is one thing, right, whatever. Well, then, years later, Lady Gaga is on American Horror Story hotel, a whole show about a haunted hotel, brilliancy now the connection here. Yeah, it was actually really good. The connection here is Lena Morgana. She died by falling to her death on the American Horror Story hotel, Lady Gaga who plays a vampire, by the way, who’s who’s eight drinking blood to stay alive longer, which is very analogous Guess what we could argue these occult Illuminati people are doing

 

Gordon from TCG  1:25:04

on the fucking nose man. Pretty much Come on.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:25:07

Yeah, yeah the David like talks about the vampire Draco connections and constellation the Draco and it seems very far out there but like a lot of it makes sense to me

 

Gordon from TCG  1:25:17

when you think of Lady Gaga Marina Abramovich parties, and she’s like drinking blood from like some weird cake that looks like a human being, like, That’s

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:25:27

weird. She was doing the Abramovich method. She was working with Abramovic to do what they call the method and it was like this weird sort of trance like meditation stay out of what they were doing, they’re out in the woods putting on horns and doing weird shit.

 

Gordon from TCG  1:25:43

And trying to do that meditation to get into that Yeah, God space to get them

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:25:49

trying to try and try to be subsumed by the divine. Yeah. And she she was doing these weird sort of like satanic prayers and, and she she has All these like these nightmares at the time, I think what she would she had done was she had been too close to evil if we wanted to simplify it. And, you know, she shows you there’s like, there’s a video called Papa Razzi, where she shows again, herself falling to her death from the building just like Lena more grounded in real life. It’s also in American Horror Story hotel, Lady Gaga sends this lady off the side of the hotel to her death. So the argument here obviously is that lady gaga knows about leading more Ghana’s deaths falling from the hotel, and she sort of made the fallacy impact. Don’t ask me the mechanics of how that works exactly, but there’s some kind of connection between the two. And then you talked about Abramovich with the the what I call spirit cooking event. Well, that’s again tied into the Gnostic mass of Alistair Crowley. He has what they call the case of light I’m sure your audience bright is very familiar with this very and it’s, it’s basically a convenient it’s a communion made with the blood of another person. Some claim that semen is included in a semen

 

Gordon from TCG  1:27:13

template was just

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:27:16

today. Yeah. And Lady Gaga I released a perfume called fame and in that perfume, she literally said there was blood and semen in it.

 

Gordon from TCG  1:27:27

Yeah, like, you know, she, like, entrepreneurs from oop, what’s her name? Gwyneth Paltrow she’s like here’s my pussy candle. Like it’s the same shit. They’re just like smell my box. You know be under my spouse like this is the fucking It’s so weird. My Lady Gaga is one of the weirdest people in I’ve ever seen. She did that documentary. Did you watch that?

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:27:53

I did. I did because there was claims being made that

 

Gordon from TCG  1:28:00

Don’t quote me on this. But I believe what the article was saying was that she was quoted as saying something about how she shouldn’t have sold her soul and that’s why she was having these Fibromyalgia pains. And I watched the whole thing looking for that exact quote, and they they sort of extrapolated upon what she said it wasn’t exactly what she said wasn’t a word for word, quote, but that was the female also, there was a definition retconning of her origin story of our history, there was no mentions of Lena Morgana. Even when she was singing like in front of her grandmother, her grandmother was like, This bitch for real, like, on camera going like what Why is she so sad about her Auntie who she never mesh? Diane, and this is what promoted all their stuff. It’s like, you know that movie yesterday. Did you watch that movie? No, I have a it’s about a guy who he gets into an accident when all the lights go out on the planet all at one time. And it’s like this, you know, fantasy movie. He falls off his bike and bangs his head and when he wakes back up, all the lights come back on. The Beatles have never existed. So he starts singing the songs of The Beatles. And everybody’s like, Oh my God, that’s the best song I’ve ever heard. And he’s like, yeah, The Beatles world. They’re like, wow, never heard of the Beatles. And he’s like, nobody back in a minute. And he goes, and he tries to write down and record all the songs and becomes like the biggest selling artist in the world, on somebody else’s songs. And the whole thing is like, he’s trying to retcon the origins of all these songs like Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane and Abbey Road. So he had never been to those places. So he had to go and visit them. And then when he came back, he’s like, here’s a song I wrote about Penny Lane. When I was walking to this graveyard, Payne lane there is so but he couldn’t relate it legitimately unless he had that origin story of the song because it wasn’t the truth. And that’s the big feeling I got from Lady Gaga that she was trying to create this thing. No more than Beyonce. I think Jay Z. cheating on her with fucking Becky with the good hair. Like, I don’t believe that I think that she needed something to write an album about. It’s like let’s write a concept album that Jay Z cheated on me and Jay Z’s like personality and his, his, you know, his business interests are robust enough to withstand like everyone thinking that he cheated on me because the the demographics of the customers don’t overlap. So like the Beyonce people that hey Jay Z. No, we’re never buying the stuff on the way and he’s still a billionaire and she’s a billionaire. and gentlemen, like that was all manufactured just to make content.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:30:33

Yeah, yeah, there’s there’s claims that they made that fight up in the elevator to cover for they made that all because Solange is actually mentally unstable. You know, MK Ultra, maybe I don’t know why, but that’s as long as

 

Gordon from TCG  1:30:50

we’re at that point, she had, like a one album. And it was like, a publicity stunt I heard.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:30:57

Yeah. But um, well, I do well. I don’t want to I don’t want to get off the lady guy or quite yet because there’s a connection here that I think will be very, very valuable for people she talked about in American Horror Story. She’s talked about how everyone’s got a shadow side that they have to feed, okay. And, and this is a very important component of this because in my book, the dark path, we talked about the symbolism, right, the purpose of the symbolism, you know, call young thought that, you know, you pump these symbols out, it talks to the subconscious. And the subconscious is also the way to make contact with sort of another dimension through the shadow self. Now, this concept of a shadow self, that lady gaga talks about is also talked about by Kobe Bryant in his kids books. When he died. I knew nothing about Kobe Bryant. I don’t watch sports could care less But when he died, you know, this was a huge event, obviously. And I thought, Okay, let me look into it. And I looked into it. And I saw that he’d written some kids books and I thought, That’s weird. Why is he writing kids books but whatever. So I actually read a couple of them and was shocked because the, the main Okay, so as a long conversation, I’ll keep it brief. He basically created this multimedia studios called granity. And the reason is called granted it is because in this fictitious world that he made up grana means is magic. Okay? Obviously magic being a very important element in the occult doctrine here. But one of the stories, the boat most stories have the same vibe of a kid wants to be a great athlete. The kid has to make a deal with with the devil on some level, and then it has unintended consequences and on the one book, The kid makes a deal with a God that they literally call the fallen one. I mean, they don’t call it the devil or Lucifer, but it’s called the fallen one which obviously is Lucifer. And I believe that one is a young girl. She makes a deal to the fallen God gets these abilities but as she’s sort of, you know, in the sporting events, I don’t think she’s basketball. I think she her story was something else. The other version is a boy who wants to play basketball. It’s very similar, but she does a sporting events and finds that her shadow self comes out and is the actual performer. And she kind of like fades to black Yeah, on some levels. We talked about

 

Gordon from TCG  1:33:40

that. And like Beyonce has Sasha Fierce which is her own ego. And it’s, it’s very closely related to like MK Ultra mind control techniques, where they’re like, Okay, I’m performance mode. and

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:33:52

yada yada said Sasha comes and takes over her. Yeah, and she’s the one performing and that’s you know, all the all these All these celebrities are telling us the same exact story over and over if you know what to look for, but

 

Gordon from TCG  1:34:04

have you ever gotten into the flow state? Have you ever gotten into it? Like Have you done a stage show or a live show where there’s like a there’s a flow of energy between yourself and the audience. Like I did stand up for years. I I was a musician for years. I have done loads of live shows with Dawson spiritual, he’s unfuck money come on stage. And you know, you’re like, what even happened? I was in my body. They’re like, what was I even saying you don’t remember what was going on? Because you’re in that flow state. It’s almost like you know, in Jimi Hendrix playing like, solos, and he puts his hand up straight in the air and he’s like, like, he’s fucking soaking down the you know, the Internet of the universe. And then he just goes, Okay, just programs all the notes in Tony Stark Pena mad solo. Have you ever felt bad?

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:34:47

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I know. I know the feeling is it’s a sort of a meditative states the right word, but yeah, it’s almost it’s almost like eat out of your your mind for a bit and it You know, maybe maybe that’s the shadow side they speak of they, in the book that it warns of this, like, the shadow version of the girl is like, damn near kills the competitors. And she’s kind of like worried. And she’s like, oh my god like this is kind of dangerous. This is what I wanted, but I don’t want to like hurt people. Yeah, but you know the story progresses and at the end, I don’t know spoiler alert wanted to read Kobe Bryant’s kids books,

 

1:35:24

but he felt like the anger No,

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:35:27

this is the crazy shit, right? This is what blew my mind and I about my jaw dropped when I read it. The daughter she gets back home from the sports camp thing that she goes to and she goes into this hall where she made the deal with the fallen God. And she goes around the corner and there’s her uncle worshiping the fallen God. And she looks at her uncle and Uncle looks at her and she’s like, Oh my god, like what are you doing here? What are you? Why are you like worshiping him? I thought he was like the bad guy. And uncle basically tells the girl like You know, evil isn’t such a bad thing I’m paraphrasing. That’s essentially what he tells her. Yeah, you know, I know people said this guy was a bad guy, but really not he was not so bad. That’s just the construct. And that’s how the book ends. And like, You’re telling me that no, like, nobody saw this, like, nobody read this book and everything like that pass through. I just couldn’t believe it. I was flabbergasted. And then like I said, I read, I read his other book. And it was a similar story of a boy going through initiations of climbing pyramids and black orbs and all kinds of crazy stuff. And I did a you know, a full I mean, it must have been an hour or so show on on these books. And it just blew my mind. And then later on, I find out all these weird connections he had with China and then COVID is supposedly Hebrew for Kobe. It’s like, we just

 

Gordon from TCG  1:36:54

did it. I don’t know what the hell’s happening. We just recently did an episode of Bishop Larry gators and he came to tell It’s all about Colby and the whole situation he was in lawsuits with pharmaceutical companies and their public who bumped him off. Like Colby was, like, deeply linked. Have you ever listened to Bishop Larry?

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:37:13

Yeah, you know, it’s funny because I heard Larry gators on tinfoil hat because he did an episode about the boulais. Yes. And I and I listen to every episode of every podcast out there. I don’t have the time. Well, I listened to that one, because I’m interested in the boulais because I wrote a book about hip hop and Illuminati connections to it now, and the boulais came up in my research back then, and I couldn’t find a ton of credible, credible sources on it. And so obviously that interested me I listened to it I thought I thought was really good. There was a couple things I took exception to that I thought, I don’t know if I buy into that. And I tried to find I tried to like sort of fact check what he was saying. And I couldn’t confirm some of the things and I thought he was being a little hybrid. bollock on some of it? And I made mention of it on one of my shows. I don’t remember which one. It was probably about Kobe Bryant. And I don’t know if this is connected, but I went on Twitter cuz I was gonna go follow him because I know Mr. Blair gays were making the rounds. And I thought I should get this guy on the show. Like we have a lot of overlapping interests here. And I went to follow him and I said, I was blocked and I thought What the hell? And all I could think of is maybe and I’m just, I’m just assuming maybe he blocked me because somehow he heard that and took offense to it and like, I hope he did it because I’m not the kind of guy who, you know, I like I said before, a lot of everyone in this truth community is a brother and a sister to me. Alex Jones, I think he’s batshit crazy, but a lot of the stuff he says is, it turns out true. And, you know, he’s still my brother like I still got love for Alex Jones. But we all have to agree we all agree on one thing is that the mainstream sits over here and they get lied to and they don’t even know it. Then there’s us who are trying to figure this all out and trying to prove it to the sheep over here. Like we’re all in the same camp. And, you know, I hope you didn’t get offended by so if you’re listening Bishop Blair gators unblocked me. Let’s do this man. Come on.

 

Gordon from TCG  1:39:12

We totally try to tweet to Bishop Larry. And let’s see if he’ll hand over the the olive branch of cross cross product podcast promotion. That’s all I know.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:39:21

I know.

 

Gordon from TCG  1:39:23

He’s full of very, very detailed information. Like I dragged him off in a few different directions. But one of the directions was, we’re talking about like, the Luciferian power in mainstream media, you know, he talked about you were saying, the kids books that have cultish symbols and stuff that JK Rowling, like wrote Harry Potter in a in a kind of an automatic writing stage that she just went in and kind of went into the trance and it just all came out in the one goal. Some people say it was written by committee, and it was read cons to say that like she wrote it on her own, but maybe it was four or five people wrote it together. That’s One of the rumors that sometimes he has obviously booked like, you know, just such a vast amount of lower within those seven or nine books that there’s no way that she could have done on her own or whatever. But she apparently she went into a trance like state and wrote the whole thing. I believe that yeah, I mean, it happens a lot like these things happen. People people into those states and and the performance stuff comes out that you would never ever think like we do six and seven hour episodes here for those conspiracy theories, and sometimes, you know, our four, you’re starting to feel inside your body and then the next thing like ideas, comity and things for the first time, like a lot of the stuff that I said to you wasn’t planned. I’m just having the conversation which it kind of feels like it’s like flying into my head from somewhere else like I’m interested in, it’s in there, but it’s only in our you know, we’re all connected and the Internet of Things. Our brains are all fucking hooked up to the one thing when somebody’s got a brand new invention, there’s a new patent made, it’s almost always a race to the patent office because sometimes on the other side of the planet has gone like I have the answer I rise down real quick and then they have to you know what I mean? Like those inventions, those those life changing world change in human existence change and things are all made almost at the same time. So as soon as it goes out into the, the, like the psychological internet of all humans, it’s available for everybody.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:41:23

Don’t Yeah, that, that that? Um, I will I believe in a lot of the stuff you’re saying like the symbolism. I think it works. I think there is a collective unconscious. That’s one way of tapping into it. They talk about it, Elvis live, he talks about the charging of the magnetic chain, in the sense that you can you can use these symbols to change reality on some levels,

 

Gordon from TCG  1:41:46

like magic and stuff like that,

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:41:47

like sigil magic, chaos magic. He talks about Pepe the Frog and Keck and you have Trump got in and and I had a guest on my show just recently, a professor Teitelbaum. He wrote a book. He hung out with Steve Bannon a bunch. And c band, of course, was instrumental in getting Donald Trump in office. And it turns out, he read the book that Bannon was on how to use the right terms here. Bannon had knowledge and understanding of basically how chaos magic works. So, I mean, could it be that that was proven true with Donald Trump? I mean, like it like you said earlier, there’s no one thought he was getting in. I thought it was a sure thing Clinton was getting in. We all thought that. So how did that happen? You know,

 

Gordon from TCG  1:42:32

I didn’t call it like a year before I was like, oh, there’s no way like, last night. Yeah, because you could see Pete to tell you this tournament people don’t want autocrats in charge anymore. They don’t want us to be controlled so that shed off and it sometimes it’s to the detriment of like a religious upbringing in our to like, you know, I like a puritanical belief system that the tat like the foot down and foreclose sooner Like everybody who lives in that town is going to be a dancer just because they’re pushing back like businessman have hippies for kids and hippies have businessmen for kids. It’s cyclical, like you don’t want to be the generation before on Generation Z coming up now behind the millennials, they’re all absolutely like, you know, facts over feelings and all this kind of stuff. It’s a, it’s a full circle thing. And over time, all those conspiracy theorists end up getting proved right in one way or another. Because the stuff that we’re talking about is so speculative, but based in historical demonstration, these things have happened already, and are and continue to happen in repeated cycles again, and again. One thing that threw us all for a loop was Corona, because we didn’t know what was going on. But like, we’re still and this is some of the last stuff we’re going to talk about. We’re still in all of like pop stars and celebrities who are using this satanic or Luciferian occult symbol In their act in their personal personas, we’ve seen it being done before like in the 70s. What Led Zeppelin where apparently Jimmy Page sold his soul to Satan boss, Alister Crowley’s home in burlesque in Scotland. And he got this also looks about what you call it insignia. And he was three other symbols and he said they’re, they’re the symbols for the lads. They’re just symbols of power. You get them to pick on wear them all the time, have them all the time, put them on your instruments, they’re your tickets to success. So from that right up to we have the likes of kashia, who you know, had the dollar sign in the essent. Her name, which was I think, like a sigil. That’s a sigil magic, or even we have Madonna who has been using symbolism like darker cultish symbolism for I think for two years. I know most recently common Oh, did you see that video where she’s like fried fish. Yeah, yes, the bath and she saw like, and I give my it’s almost like she’s chanting meditation in the bath in the nip. Like really weird symbolism is built into a lot of these celebrities like Tom Hanks is putting stuff up. Did you see that thing he posted today? It was a coffee cup and the nine of clubs on the ground.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:45:19

No, I didn’t say that. He put

 

Gordon from TCG  1:45:20

up an Instagram post. And it was it was a cap off a coffee cup and the nine of clubs and people were like, it’s a symbol like this motherfucker is putting up on his Instagram page. Like pictures of kids shoes, and like lost toys and shit. Like that’s all that’s on his Instagram. Do you know? When you go I seen that report. It’s fucking weird. You go back over. What’s your mother’s name? James on the fantasy go back over his Instagram page. There’s some wild shit, but it’s obviously wild. Yeah, he’s

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:45:45

blocked that I tried to I try to follow him the he won’t allow that apparently, but

 

Gordon from TCG  1:45:50

damn shit. They’re all those sheets have got screen set. screenshotted like everybody has those things.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:45:54

Well, if you saw he saw the example of Madonna. She did the Korean the creepiest thing I’ve seen her do, and she’s done a lot of creepy things. In 2019 she did a Eurovision show, and her and Weibo from the Migos did a song called wake. It was called wake up. But anyway, it’s their stay on top of this pyramid, which has of course the stairs going to the top and then it’s got the twin pillars and the people, the dancers towards the end of the song, they go up the stairs and then they fall off the back. Meanwhile, Madonna quaver singing not everyone’s coming to the future. Not everyone’s learning from the past. Everybody’s gonna make it to the future. No, not all of us are going to last you need to open your mind open your eyes,

 

Gordon from TCG  1:46:40

and only 500 million of us will survive. Have you seen the Georgia guidestones Shay is like Yeah,

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:46:47

yeah, so like, I think she’s I think she’s familiar. I mean, she’s obviously a capitalist, you know? But she’s a man. She’s done a lot of weird stuff in her day. But that one like it kind of made my skin crawl a little bit. Because it seemed very much on the nose and I don’t know if there’s a reason they did that not they didn’t do it in America. They did it over in Europe. I’m not sure what the deal is with that.

 

Gordon from TCG  1:47:10

Did you see the opening of the London Olympics?

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:47:14

Yeah, with the medical, National Institute of Health thing.

 

Gordon from TCG  1:47:18

Yeah, whatever. That’s only after coming up reasonably, because people are like, oh, holy shit, they were. They were like foreshadowing that stuff. It’s like predictive programming. They were they were, they were letting us know that this is going to be the case. And that it ended up being like a massive occult. Like dissolves a pentagrams. And loads of like, depictions of sacrifice of people die in under soldiers going up into the ether. Like it’s a really really dark imagery.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:47:47

Yeah, it’s creepy and they had the, they had some of the JK Rowling was was during that segment, too. She was kind of doing the reading. And and I’ve got a whole I’ve got a ton on Harry Potter if anyone wants to go into the call, similar I’m Harry Potter. I did a few episodes on it a while back or you can pay for it. You can go buy the book, I wrote a book conspiracy theories and on popular culture, it’s on Amazon and audible. It’s got a whole section on Harry Potter. Because I actually, for years avoided Harry Potter because like, it’s not my thing. Like, I don’t like that kind of stuff. Yeah. And then I joy like,

 

Gordon from TCG  1:48:20

I’ve like, yeah,

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:48:23

yeah, you can miss me with all that. But then I sat down and watched. I mean, people kept saying, Oh, you gotta watch the Harry Potter movies. I’m like, I’m not watching that shit. Like, I don’t like it. And I finally did. I kind of muscled through it. It actually got pretty good after the third movie, but I watched all of them and like, again, it was like jaw dropping. I was like, Oh my god, like, this is everything I’ve ever been talking about. And including, you know, JK Rowling talked about the Deathly hollows symbol, which is the circle of the triangle and all that. That’s a Freemason symbol, she she said in an interview with on BBC she talked about how she was watching this movie and the symbol came door To her subconscious, again, she channeled this symbol and yeah, it’s based on Freemasonry because if you look at the movie she, you know, two degrees of separation between that to prove its Freemason. But yeah, these to the London Olympics, I get off track easy. The London Olympics, she was read doing a reading and there was all these British villain characters coming out. One of them was from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, which is like a basically a child molester. catcher. Yeah. It’s like, Dude, what the hell and like that this virus is going around snatching up the kids. But yeah, predictive programming. It’s a key component that I talked about in the dark path. With the it’s connecting into the subconscious again, and yet to get into sort of some of this woowoo stuff to get into all this. Yeah. But Francis Bacon, who was you know, instrumental in the Foundation of America where he talks about the new Atlantis and how America is going to be the new world and he said, it’s easy to teach. People through entertainment and the lecture at them. And I believe that to be so and, and my future research I’m doing a book on aliens, which is taking me forever because there’s so many directions I got to research. But there was a neuroscientist named Jeffrey Zacks, who talked about the concept of cognitive models. And in the past, I’ve heard some similar I was a, I studied engineering in college. And we talked about frequency following or gotten I forget the term for some following frequencies meaning you push a frequency and other frequencies have a tendency to sort of like fall in line with it.

 

1:50:39

Like resonance,

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:50:40

resonance frequencies sort of like that.

 

Gordon from TCG  1:50:42

You do with by now or the beats and stuff like that to be able to put 111 year and it’s slightly different than the other year and your brain like corrects the different circles like Yes, well, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, but you can change the frequency of the thing in between those two.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:50:58

Yeah. So yeah, you mind as you know, they say that the mind is the final frontier in science. Yeah, no. And Jeffrey Sachs talks about these cognitive models. And basically, the short version of this where I’m going is I believe that aliens are part of the agenda in the sense that they’ve shown us aliens and movies for so long, that we built up all these cognitive models, meaning your mind, when it watches it on TV, it doesn’t get on some primitive level, it doesn’t understand that. It’s not like, Oh, this is a news and it’s real. And it’s not like, Oh, it’s a movie. It’s fake. On some levels in your mind. It just gets stowed away. And then part of the filtering process is to tell ourselves like, Oh, that was just a movie that wasn’t real,

 

Gordon from TCG  1:51:43

but it’s almost an inevitability that that’s going to be a step in the future. Like there’s too much focus on us for too long. Yeah, for sure. I think hundred percent. Trump put up a post the other day where he he was super imposed or it was like, you know, rallying cry to all the right wing media, you know, now I saw that. But he was he was the Bill Pullman character in from an independent state. It’s like, we will not go into the night we will not go down without a fight. We’re going to go on, we’re going to survive, right? I’d like Independence Day. Like that’s a rousing speech, you know? Yeah. Well, it’s so weird that he would choose to pick that near or that CAA confirmed the existence of UFOs like, it seems like Ah, this is the shit and all the conspiracy theorists nips are hired as wrong. has happened has happened imagine happening, right? Like, Operation Blue Beam is in effect, Verner von Braun talked about it. You know, the Steven Greer Disclosure Project, he had Carolyn rosin saying like for our system, Nazis dance the communist as the terrorists then it’s the people themselves, who are the enemy, and then it becomes the aliens which unites broken, you know disparate worlds ready for change. We’re broken. We’ve we’ve lost our connection with the divine we are merely mortal creatures who rely on authoritarian are on a system of provisions. Without foods, everyone’s fucked up, drawn out, you know, waiting for something to help and then all of a sudden the aliens come and they’re like, we’ll help you but you have to do exactly what we say. Yes. To finish up, what’s your What’s your opinion about the coaming UFO agenda is it could it be that these yokes are interdimensional beings that they’re the Luciferian forces that are forcing us to do? They are the Archons that David like talks about? They are the what are the Scientologists call them the

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:53:53

Yeah, I know. I can’t think of it either sounds.

 

Gordon from TCG  1:53:56

Payton’s. That’s it. They are the Tetons. You know the goal asleep figures that you know propel our thoughts to doing like bad stuff like touching our dicks like what’s the net? What’s the UFO agenda? What’s the Alien Agenda is it to drive us towards technology to be able to take us out of our car period form that is flawed and push us towards a more like digital controllable predictable future what would happen that’s

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:54:21

that so this is this is going to be a sort of dividing argument the truth or community here with aliens. Like You I grew up you know watching X Files fascinated by aliens fascinated want to know if they exist I remember I remember when I was like 14 walking with my friend home late at night is dark out and like we were so intrigued by aliens we were like begging for them to come up duck dust, you know? Yeah, which is pretty dangerous now that I’m like a little bit more familiar with how some of these paranormal elements work. But to me, and like I said, this is an evolving opinion. I that’s why I got I keep doing research because I I can’t commit to one thing or another but like saying if I look historically like I can be taught to either side of this argument, historically it’s never been anything good croley he was channeling lamb in 1918 the first Grey Alien Hitler and bloodbath ski we’re talking about the alien race and you know Hitler was working with deverill secret society to channel these these alien forces to make you know D Glock the bell and you know it all this all this stuff branches into a million things so I’m not gonna get too sidetracked

 

Gordon from TCG  1:55:36

either all terms we all like the ECG audience. I’ll get them so short. Yeah, it’s cool.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:55:41

Yeah. And and you look at ancient aliens who comes along the ancient alien show comes along after after we’ve seen all these sort of naughty boys who’ve been channeling the aliens in the bad guys. All of a sudden we got ancient aliens that shows up and is like, Hey, you know what turns out to be panspermia or whatever aliens actually are our gods they they’ve manipulated our DNA and here’s the proof for it and for you know 10 years they’ve been laying out the argument for why this is well some zecharia Sitchin shit like he’s saying

 

Gordon from TCG  1:56:13

that yeah the Anunnaki and we’re it this is all we’re all the descendants of the Greek gods who fucked the good looking Greek girls came down and spread their seed and yeah 120 years later when the planet came back around was fucking millions and we’re like oh my god we left it they all started sucking each other these hairless monkeys there’s loads of them now shift like it’s Yeah,

 

Isaac Weishaupt  1:56:38

they write and like and and that’s where I always get kind of vacillate on the on the fence about like, Man, what do I want to believe about these things? Because I feel like we got to make a choice here soon. But when I look at who all the cultists were like Kenneth grant, who was channeling you know, you know, they think they think that there’s another dimension of reality. so to speak. Some called the Mavs zone. Some call it the the best day off on the cabbalistic tree of life. And they think there’s some value in making contact with the shadow side of Darth Vader. The day off Vader, exactly. They have Vader and that’s why all these celebrities are arguably going insane because they’re trying to channel energies from this dark zone that HP Lovecraft and hr gieger you know, you look into their their works. And they talk about how this is such a dangerous sort of element and a dark element. This other dimension that that arguably, these interdimensional aliens if that’s what we want to go into is interdimensional aliens, which, to me, I feel like that’s gotta be it. I have a hard time believing otherwise. But if you look at the best example of where they want to take this, if you read Arthur C Clarke’s novels before Four novels 2001 2010 I think 2061 and 3001. They basically that story is what I think they all subscribed to, and everything points to it that I’ve ever read everything points to the same argument that an alien intelligence comes, tells man how to become better. You know, by the end of the 2001, David Bowman, he makes contact with the black cube with a black monolith and alchemically transforms to the Starchild. Now he’s an interdimensional interdimensional traveler. Then in the other books, it morphs into finding out who these alien intelligence are and what they’re trying to do an allegory for transhumanism, I guess, right, where he touches Yeah, thing and they becomes material form of digital information. Yeah, they they, um, they left it a little bit open to interpretation, but if you read the sequels, it defines a little bit better and you find out the David Bowman evolves Eventually into what the the intelligence that created the Model S, which is the digital streams of consciousness, immortal, flowing through time note, there’s no limit space and time. It’s a new a new form of life. And arguably, that’s what we’ve been going towards. If you look at Elon Musk’s neural link, you look at the predictions of Ray Kurzweil, the singularity. I mean, the list goes on and on and on. And this is where we’re headed. And

 

Gordon from TCG  1:59:27

IBM just launched like their quantum computer. And Intel just launched a whole new set of quantum processors and they’re putting this shit together. And they’re, what kind of imagery would you think that you would use to clinical like, Hey, here’s the most powerful form of technology that humans have ever invented. Before they chose a black cube. Here’s a black giant black cube that’s going to be like the future of computing. That’s like a million times faster than any other Yeah, a black cube. Like, yeah, the imagery is valuable. Like, you know,

 

Isaac Weishaupt  2:00:05

it’s all it’s like, it’s like Sam Tripoli always talks about it’s like these these, the, these subterranean inverted forces man like it to me the connections are like clear it’s very hard to verbalize it. Yeah, there’s because there’s so many different dots to connect. But like, if you boil it down to the most common, you know, I picture it, and this is gonna sound kind of wacky, but in my head I picture this, this bandwidth of, of reality that they’re creating, and all these different dots fit in the in the same bandwidth. You know, so like, it’s hard to say, well, definitively aliens are this because, you know, you could be pointed away up here and then other people would say, no, they’re from another planet. It’s down here, but like, it doesn’t matter that they’re still moving everything along according to their evolution of consciousness.

 

Gordon from TCG  2:00:54

Yeah, you take that. There would be like a fake alien invasion. Something that would

 

Isaac Weishaupt  2:01:02

that’s a tough one man. I know. I don’t think

 

Gordon from TCG  2:01:04

that’s the point like if the alien invasion comes is going to be real, like I think that the pre predictive programming is just an alien race they’ll come and try to enslave us all and you know the most powerful human armies will rise up and fight them but like that’s the universal story told us all Yeah, TV shows like V or like Independence Day, or even with you know, more modern stuff. There’s always this unified enemy like Westworld. Yeah, robots. It’s humans vs. Robots. There’s always a humans come together and resist this irresistible on defeasible immortal, a human force.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  2:01:49

Mm hmm. Yeah, it’s a good way of it would if there was a fake alien invasion, it sure would be a good way of funneling resources into one cause like space for another Like a space force, yeah.

 

Gordon from TCG  2:02:03

Even World War Two often is it a movie or a TV show starring Steve Carell called spaceforce. Oh, really? Right. It was released the other day and it’s a pistol. Yeah. dealmakers on HBO. Right? Yeah. So like, there’s there’s certain elements for people who wants to believe that it’s a real thing. And they can get their evidence enough. But for the people that want to make fun of it, there’s also a whole load of other confirmation bias material. That was ticular ticular. You know, your prejudice.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  2:02:32

Yeah, there’s, there’s arguments like some some of the places that mine My My mind goes is that we’ve punched so many holes inter dimensionally that we’re drawing in energies from another dimension. That’s what the Babylon workings were l Ron Hubbard and jack Parsons were out in the desert doing their croley magic and they, they they were trying to incarnate the Scarlet woman, which he got through Marjorie Cameron, but you know, again, Probably said they did these idiots didn’t know how to close up the portal, and then we get Roswell. You could see, you could argue for that on many levels. I used to do ghost hunting back in like the year 2000. Before they TV shows on it, it sounded insane. My buddy was doing it. And I went along with him. We got him radio

 

Gordon from TCG  2:03:17

to be like

 

Isaac Weishaupt  2:03:21

we had tape recorders, and we got some crazy shit, man. I mean, I got intelligent responses. And I thought this is nuts. But then we started getting all this weird stuff happening in the house. We got these weird, weird marks on the wall and all this crazy stuff happened and I was like, Man, I’m out. This is This is nuts. I’m not doing this anymore. Like so what I’m getting at is I think there’s there’s something to be said for contacting things inter dimensionally, and unintended consequences. And I believe, you know, Greer’s channeling these aliens through and it’s like, Dude is showing people do this. Exactly, man. Like we Don’t know what we’re messing with here. CERN’s punch in black holes and space

 

Gordon from TCG  2:04:05

dimension the other day where the time runs backwards? Yeah. So yeah, right maybe like, we’re coming close to this to this other dimension where the time is running backwards, where they’re way, way ahead of us. And they’re coming to me like they’re the humans of the firefighter future. And they’re coming to our dimension because they’re way more technologically advanced. They’re coming to earth to try and go like, Well, shit. Eventually, everything’s going to end for us because we’re going to start again, we’re going to get back to the start. So we want to hop dimensions, where stuff is always going forward is always progressing, because they’re in a regressive universe. Maybe they’re trying to get in here with us. That’s why they know us so well. That’s why they’re able to manipulate us because they are us.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  2:04:48

Yeah, and and I did a I did a show about arrival. And that’s, that’s kind of the idea of meaning, the manipulation of time. Oh, that’s a

 

Gordon from TCG  2:04:55

that’s a great it’s in the film.

 

2:04:57

Yeah.

 

Gordon from TCG  2:04:57

Great movie. Jeremy Renner and Maybe atoms right?

 

Isaac Weishaupt  2:05:01

Yep, yeah. And you know when they it’s funny when they go inside the craft you see a white monolith essentially you know they go to the the viewing port and it’s basically a white monolith same sort of dimensions and all that. But yeah, the interesting things fell out that that uh, that movie as well

 

Gordon from TCG  2:05:21

yeah, we could talk for hours finally we’re gonna wrap it up No, because your time is valuable. I let you off the finish here to finish your good works. What’s that? Where can everybody find you if they weren’t looking for you?

 

Isaac Weishaupt  2:05:33

I’m all over the place. Illuminati watchers calm is my website where I post pretty much all the stuff you can sign up for an email newsletter. That’s the direct link I don’t sell that nobody that’s my backup plan for when they inevitably shut me out of social media is like they shut me out of YouTube. And you know, I’m on all the socials right now Instagram at Isaac Weishaupt. I post a lot of cool little like, clips and images to support the stuff I talked about on my podcast which is You know, conspiracy theories and unpopular culture is available on Apple, Spotify spreaker, all that stuff. And, you know, I’ve got all the books on Amazon and audible under my, my, my pseudonym Isaac Weishaupt, of course. So, you know, whatever path whatever way people want to consume information, I try to put it on all all those things because some people don’t like podcasts and people don’t like reading books. So people don’t want to listen to the books. I try to hit all the things because I want to sort of spread this these ideas, because I think especially now more than ever, it’s very important. We all start defining our reality instead of letting these people define reality for us.

 

Gordon from TCG  2:06:38

Absolutely. We’re owning what we make and taking back the internet taking back information on it. I think the evangelistic nature of some of the conspiracy theorists of the past is claimed to walk away with people like yourself myself, Greg Carr woods, like Sam a bunch of different people that are making It shows and you know what I mean? If you like it you like sunlight to some people like to conspiracy theories with a little seasoning of like dick jokes, you know, something like that some people like I’m real serious and religious and like fucking everything always points back to this, you know certain type of agenda. I think as long as people are thinking and talking, that’s the most important part to reach out to your, to your people. We have a Discord server, where a lot of the TCG fans hang out, share links have chats and there’s no kind of like creepy motherfucker looking over your shoulder to see what you’re typing or if you if you you know use the R word somebody says a silly thing that you don’t get banned for 190 days. Because it’s it’s wrong speak. So um, it’s great to have him Yeah,

 

Isaac Weishaupt  2:07:47

I should I should also do that dis Discord. I’ve got a Patreon and they’ve offered that to connect into discord and very good point.

 

Gordon from TCG  2:07:56

That’s a very good point. That’s what I got turned on to to this guard through Patreon to get it Game speaking but they’re upgrading all the time. I have my whole show content split into seasons and into episodes. So like, you know, I have RSS feed links that are dumping like daily news about all these different hashtags that I have. And then I’m able to just put those articles that are find interest in into the discord so people can read them and talk about amongst themselves. There’s DMS, between all your members. So someone says something like, That’s very interesting. Okay, let’s hop in the DMS have chats, there’s a voice channel where you can talk amongst each other, like a phone call up to like 6070 people can be heard quite easily. I do like little call ins I call it taking the news. I know there’s also video chats, we can have up to 50 people in the one room in the video chat. So if you get a lot of folks jump jump in there. That’s the way that the internet is going on YouTube is a fuckin it’s Chernobyl for content. Yeah, you know, you can go there but you can’t stay there long because you end up with like, you know, some weird cancer or some fucking Extra eyeballs on Facebook and Twitter being the same. So I send all my people your way. I’m sure we’ll do this again and talking about something different in the future stuff. It’s great talking to you. It’s great to connect with you on it. Thanks so much for being on show.

 

Isaac Weishaupt  2:09:13

Well stuff, man. Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it, man. All right, that was a marathon. I told Gordo beforehand I said I don’t want to do two hours bro. But I did it for him. I’m not big into the two hour shows. There’s only a select few people that get the two hours out of me. Greg Carr wood from fireside chats, and Gordo, of course gets it. So yeah, what do you think you’d like to show you’d like what you heard? Do you want more, go to patreon.com backslash Illuminati watch or sign up, sign up and get that get in on that special offer. You’ll kick yourself if you don’t, you can get your name in the back of the book immortalized in the back of my alien user illusion one book, expire September 8 2020. And if you do sign up, be sure to submit your name on that poll giving me permission to do it. Otherwise I cannot do it. can’t emphasize this enough Your name will not be in the book. I’m not messing around on September 8, I’m submitting the manuscript or the rough draft I should say. And if you don’t make the cut by September 8, if you don’t sign up for that post, it’s over. It’s too late. guy, you know the deal patreon.com/Illuminatiwatcher. Thanks for your time. Until next time, stay woke.