On today’s episode of the Occult Symbolism and Pop Culture with Isaac Weishaupt podcast we are working on a deep dive into the cast from That ’70s Show! Today in Part 3 we’ll wrap things up when we deep dive into Ashton Kutcher! We’ll talk about his Thorn: Digital Defenders of Children business, A.I. software, Spotlight, CIA, surveillance, Epstein, Clinton, Ron Burkle (a tie into Twin Peaks), questioning the number of children trafficked in America, Kabbalah, Topher Grace and more! We’ll also wrap up with a variety of clips from the early 2000s cast of That ’70s Show where they are revealing all kinds of questionable behavior. (*ALSO I SHOULD POINT OUT AN ERROR- I mentioned that Topher Grace was covered in tattoos but apparently that’s not true- it was presumably makeup for a movie shoot)
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Welcome back to a gold symbolism and pop culture. I’m your host Isaac Watts Up today we wrap up that 70 Show conspiracy with part three. Going deep down Ashton Kutcher is rabbit hole. As you know, you’ve been listening to me for two episodes. Now we had part one and we had part two. I’m going to put the link in the show notes as us. Part one, we went through the whole cast of that 70 Show talked about where they’ve been what they’ve done some of their odd behaviors. We went through the trial of Danny Masterson. The timelines, statements made Ashton Kutcher Mila Kunis defending their friend, Danny Masterson. Then in part two, we talked about Scientology and the links to the occult with various figures Jack Parsons, Charles Manson, Stanley Kubrick, Danny Masterson, Tom Cruise. And we talked about Krissy Cornell books. There’s accusations which led us into an accusation about Ashton Kutcher being involved in a murder involved how you say, I don’t know. She dropped a cryptic statement on her socials. And fair warning. I’m recording this on September 13. All right. You probably aren’t hearing this until we’ll see. September 22 25th, I don’t know. Just depends because I actually have a lot on my schedule the next few weeks, so I gotta get ahead of it. So things could very much change since this recording, but she made some accusations on social media. And we talked about the murder of Ashton Kutcher girlfriend. Now in part three, we’re gonna talk about Ashton Kutcher himself. We’re talking about Thorne, that’s his, Save the Children operation. We’ve heard this before. Connections to CIA surveillance, Epstein, Clinton, venture capitalism, all kinds of stuff, all kinds of little secrets. And then we’re going to talk about all these video clips circulating on social media from statements made by the actors themselves many, many years ago that were pretty creepy. And then we’re going to wrap it all up, where I give you my In conclusion, my final opinion. So let’s talk. So last time, we wrapped up with a statement made by Chrissy, she said, Dear Ashton, I know the secret your role model keeps for you ones that would end you. Did you forget I was there you were on speakerphone that night, you called Danny on February 21st 2001. I hear everything I heard the plan, in my opinion, you’re just as sick as your mentor. Alright, so I thought, Man, that’s really odd statement. Let’s take a look at Ashton Kutcher. Many people think this guy’s a total Angel. You know, I in fact, in passing, I’ve talked to people about this whole situation and a recurring opinion. I hear oh, Ashton Kutcher, he tries to save those kids. Yeah, that’s what they want you to think he tried to save traffic kids. What an angel. I don’t know about this guy. I’ve been researching this and I don’t like it. Of course. That’s just my opinion. So let’s talk about him. You already know his acting history. We talked about that a little bit in part one. He’s the co founder of a great investments back in 2010. All right. They do venture capitalism investments, which includes such hits as Spotify, Uber, Shazam, SoundCloud and Airbnb. Very successful, it seems. Now the other guy who started this investment firm with Ashton Kutcher, his name was Ron Burkle, and if that name rings a bell it means you my friend are in the Twin Peaks gray lodge with me. Or maybe not. I did one free episode of Twin Peaks the primer episode on the free feed. Before we started diving deep into the gray lodge series on the supporter feeds. And we talked about how on Twin Peaks there’s a mini soap called invitation to love and Twin Peaks season one. And they filmed that in a place called the Ennis house. And this is when I mentioned Ron Burkle. When I said a billionaire named Ronald Burkle owned the NSA house from 2011 to 2019. During this time, he was also hanging out with Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein. All right. I don’t want to read you do our hands a citation here. It’s on my Twin Peaks thing I cite where I got this from. In 2015, Gawker published the flight logs from Epstein’s jet which showed that Kevin Spacey Chris Tucker as such powerful players is Bill Clinton and investor Ron Burkle took one flight to Africa. A source close to Burchell says he was invited by Clinton assumed the ride was bedded. Then flew home on a commercial jet after finding Epstein to be creepy. So maybe he’s a white hat. Maybe this is a good guy. You know, he wouldn’t even fly home on the private jet because he thought Epstein was that creepy? So good for him, right? Or maybe that’s a clever smokescreen. You know what I mean? Maybe he knew exactly who Epstein was. And maybe the timing didn’t work. He’s like, Hey, I gotta get home. And then Epstein goes to prison. And everyone’s talking about him. And then he says, shoot, I gotta get ahead of this. I mean, maybe, right? We’re, this is a conspiracy show. after all. We don’t it’s hard to tell what’s real anymore. But that’s the official story. And it’s like, okay, well, good for him. If that’s true. That’s a great debt of character, my friend. Good job. And in case in case you’re wondering why any of this matters besides the Epstein stuff. The NS house that Burkle owned was built based upon Mayan temples. And on that Twin Peaks primer episode, we talked about the human sacrifice element at play here. Also, fun tag Ron Burkle button, Michael Jackson’s Neverland Ranch and 2020 He used to be a friend of the Jackson family. So I say all that to say there’s Ron Burkle, closely associated and invested with Ashton Kutcher, with this venture capitalist effort, very plugged into the scene of the Clinton Epstein scene. And you know, those things tie into the intelligence agencies. So back to Ashton Kutcher. He also created another company that Wikipedia says this is the successor to the a great Investments company. So I’m thinking that’s the same thing, just a new name. It’s called Sound ventures. It says they invest in over 60 companies including Skype, Foursquare, Airbnb, Duolingo, and more again, those are some pretty big hits. All right. He also invested in an Italian restaurant dulci with Danny Masterson and Wilmer Valderrama. So there’s some financial ties with all these guys from that 70 show. And, and here’s where things get interesting. Okay. And 2000 I’m gonna read you straight from the weaker, the weaker pedia 2009, Kutcher established an international human rights organization with his then wife, Demi Moore, DNA Foundation, later known as Thorn, digital defenders of children, works to address the sexual exploitation of children and the proliferation of child pornography on a global scale. Sounds great, right? Sounds great. Question. Why was the name of it DNA foundation? That’s an interesting idea, right? I mean, what does that tell you about the business? These people put a lot of thought and time into business names and titles and logos. What was it called DNA foundation? Why did you change it? Was that a little too on the nose of what was really going on here? So what a storm that’s that’s not speculate. You know, the, so again, like I said, a lot of people in passing, when you talk about this, they’ll say, oh, yeah, Ashton Kutcher, freedom fighter for the kids. God bless him, right? And I don’t want to be a contrarian and be like, Oh my God, it would do to conspiracy. You don’t want to help anybody? Like no, there’s good people out there. And maybe he’s one of them. I don’t know. Let’s read from Wikipedia about Thorne. In April 2011 Kutcher and then wife Demi Moore began a public service announcement campaign to end child sex trafficking. Could your claim that 100 to 300,000 American children were sold into sexual slavery. That number was criticized by newspaper The Village Voice cutter and others, including the New York Times C span and CNN use a peer reviewed study referring to minors at risk for sexual exploitation. The Village Voice from their research said it was only hundreds of children CuIture claim the criticism by the Village Voice promoted child prostitution and use Twitter to request that Village Voice advertisers withdraw their advertising from publications owned by its parent company. And we’re going to come back to that because that ties in the back page The Village Voice does. But to lay in the foundation of the argument here
Kutcher, and many others have said they pointed to a study and said there’s 100 to 300,000 American children sold into sexual slavery in America every year. Now, one fact I want to know is how many says there’s about 74 million kids in America? So 300,000 And what is that? Three? Oh, math on the fly is very hard one out of 200. I don’t know, ish, give or take. If you go that 300,000 number. I mean, maybe I don’t know. Was that one every elementary school? I don’t know. But the point is, there’s arguments about whether or not that’s a true number. The Village Voice people they say it’s only really hundreds of kids. It’s not that many. And Kutcher says, Oh, really, you’re trying to dismiss child trafficking when the truth is much darker. All right. We’re gonna come back to that. Okay, thorn. Let’s keep reading about Thorn says. Dorn to digital defenders of children, previously known as the DNA Foundation, is an international anti human trafficking organization that works to address the sexual exploitation of children. The primary programming efforts of the organization focuses on internet technology and the role it plays in facilitating child pornography and the sexual slavery of children on a global scale. All right. Internet technology. Okay. Now Thorn apparently works with it says it works with a group of technology partners who serve the organization as members of the technology task force. Now, this would include people like their board of directors, guys like Jim Pitt cow, the co founder of attributor, which is apparently now called digimarc. It’s a software company that uses they do digital identification of stuff, right. The goal of the program includes developing technological barriers and initiatives to ensure the safety of children online and deter sexual predators on the internet. Various corporate members of the task force include, get ready for it, Facebook, Google, or detto, Microsoft, Mozilla Palantir, Salesforce Foundation, Symantec, and Twitter says verification needed on there. So that might not be true, but that was on Wikipedia. Following the organizational change in November 2012, I must be when they changed their named Dean to from DNA foundation to Thorn, Kutcher and more made the following statement regarding the overall focus on technology because that’s what it’s all about. It’s not really about saving kids about rolling out surveillance technology that potboiler. That’s what I think has gone on. For the past three years, we have focused our work broadly on combating child sex trafficking, it has become crystal clear in our efforts, that technology plays an increasingly large role in this crime and in the sexual exploitation of children. Overall, we believe that the technology driven aspect of these crimes demands its own attention and investment. As of July 2013, Thorne is in talks with leading internet companies, Facebook, Microsoft, Google and Twitter and at least three others to collaborate on creating a database of millions of child abuse images on the web. All right. Now, I saw a video by Reason TV on YouTube, that Ashton and many others use this statistic. We’re gonna we’re gonna dive into this statistic, because it’s kind of isn’t important. I mean, like, even if it’s only hundreds of kids getting sexually trafficked. Like that’s what we should do something about that. Right. But is it 100 to 300,000? That’s a lot. But it’s a big country. I don’t know maybe. But, you know, groups like Operation Underground Railroad, I presume would use this figure to raise funds. Tim Ballard takes a pretty good chunk to be the CEO and his whole family’s on the operation Underground Railroad, they’re making millions. Is that ethical? I mean, I don’t know. Like they need to get paid for their time. I get it. All right. So Reason TV, they trace this number to a source. And this is all under the dirt. This was under the direction we’re going to Michael Lacey of The Village Voice who researched it because he’s the owner of backpage.com got sued for allegedly enabling trafficking through the website. And the source parent does not. And that doesn’t really matter. But it’s, you know, and everyone’s got an agenda here. But the source, the objective source was a journal article from 2001, the commercial sexual exploitation of children in the US, Canada and Mexico, by Richard J. SS, and Neil Alan wiener that had several issues. The issues are, and let’s go through it, because this is basically poking holes in that statistic. And is basically saying, Yes, child, sex trafficking happens. It’s not as bad as you’re saying it is. They discuss how this exact figure is very difficult to determine because of the people involved, meaning that victims and traffickers oftentimes don’t want to talk about it, which makes sense. And the study was actually using the countries of America, Canada and Mexico together, not just America. So if you say the 100 to 300,000, including a couple other countries in that two, they claim that the if you do the math of 300,000 kids traffic, that means there’s 6000 Kids in every of the 50 major cities in America. Now, is that a big is that an accurate number? I’ve no idea. I mean, we’re talking about cities with millions of people, hundreds of 1000s of people. The study, but here’s the thing, the study did not base the numbers on actual cases, they didn’t like extrapolate and say, Okay, well, there’s so many cases a year. They guessed, they guessed it, who might end up being a victim. Including if a kid runs away from home, they’re like, Well, that could could easily be traffic counted. So how many kids run away from home every year? 20,000 20,000. Right there, boom, next, you know, and I’m just using examples. I don’t know if that’s exactly how they did it. There was I did read something about it saying something about runaways were included. I’m sure kids who go to juvenile hall is included. I want to make a joke, but I’ve got very sensitive listeners sometimes. So I want kids to go to Catholic Church. I just care. All right. I said it’s hiring God. I know I have one. One person already canceled me. Because I made fun of the Catholic sorry, I don’t know what to tell you. The Catholics have a pretty bad track record of messing with the kids and then trying to cover it up and then claiming bankruptcy from all the lawsuits. I’m just reporting the news. All right. Now Oh, where were we? Okay. The crimes against children Research Center advise. They actually advise people not to use that statistic. This is what they said in all caps. I said please do not cite these numbers. The reality is that we do not currently know how many juveniles are involved in prostitution. scientifically credible estimates do not exist. And then the final nail in the coffin. The authors of the study even disavow this they said that number is wildly inaccurate. And that’s something you will find when you research this is every group who’s interested in stopping this says you shouldn’t use those figures. They’re completely imaginary. There’s no actual numbers we just don’t know. And after the Village Voice criticize cookers activism, because of those numbers, of course, Kutcher told his followers to start attacking the Village Voice. Seems kind of petty, but hey, whatever. And if you look it up, you’ll find that tons of politicians and celebrities and so on will use this figure and I’m gonna guess I even use this figure at least one time that 100 to 300,000. I’m gonna guess I haven’t used it. Because I also think that we should do something about human trafficking of adults and minors and women and kids and all that, right. But there’s, you know, we’re gonna, we’re gonna face the truth about what’s the right figure and apparently that number is wildly wrong. It’s a bit of a fear mongering technique, because you think, Man, that’s a lot of kids. What the hell is going on? It’s a fear mongering technique to raise money for Ashton Kutcher and his venture venture is that venture capitalism, to make sure that they can raise funds to help poor people out. No, it’s to make Ashton Kutcher richer. It’s to make Ron Burkle richer. That’s what it’s for. That’s capitalism.
Washington Post has a whole 2015 article that also confirms this is junk science. I’m going to read you from there It turns out that this is another one of those nonsense statistics based on data. So all that the original researcher even says it’s no longer relevant. The 300,000 figure also relied on a series of guesses on the part of the researchers, such as the assumption that 35% of runaway youth away from home at least a week, were at risk, or that one quarter of 1% of all youth ages 10 to 17, were at risk. So 1% of everyone 10 to 17. Instantly at risk is what the study assumed, which is pretty wild. It became such an issue, this whole statistic that the Department of Justice ended up doing their own study in 2013. So that’s like, Okay, well, let’s take a look at what they got. Washington Post says the report devotes an entire chapter to the question of estimates of sex trafficking of minors and concludes as its top finding, no reliable national estimate exist, of the incidence or prevalence of commercial sexual exploitation and sex trafficking of minors in the United States. Exhausting, right? And look, I if you okay, I’m not gonna, I’m not gonna keep defending it. It’s like, people are gonna think what they want. Because when you position yourself as the person saying, hey, it’s not as bad as they’re saying it is. All of a sudden, that makes you a bad person in all. And with the Village Voice guy, maybe? Maybe he was I don’t know. But we do need to know facts and know where assumptions were made, and what’s accurate and what’s not. And like I said, even if it’s only 1000 kids in America getting trafficked by God, we should do something about that, right. Now, if you wanted to come up with a figure, because some people they need the math in their lives, they needed to know numbers. You know, it’s like the, it’s like trying to do something about the mass shootings, people try to rationalize things. And they’re like, well, it only happens once every week. And it’s only one school out of, you know, 1000s of schools. And, you know, people try to rationalize and sort of make sense of things. Like, wow, the risk is still really low. You know, we saw this with the 2020 thing. That’s only 1%. It’s not that bad, or whatever, right? People, people, as humans, we try to use logic to feel safer about things. So in 2010, Ohio, did a study try to replicate this exact the SS wiener methodology for their own state. They said, Okay, there’s 300,000 Kids, let’s see how many are from Utah using their methodology? Which SDS and winner already came out said, No, that’s not wasn’t good. Don’t do it. It estimated that a little over 1000 Ohio youth were trafficked, it’s actually much higher than I thought you think you’d be right. That’s a lot. Given that Ohio has about 127 of the US population between the ages of 12 and 17. That means about 27,000 youth across the country. So is that the most accurate source? Is that the most accurate figure for how many kids are getting trafficked? In America? That might be but I would argue 27,000 is an absurdly high number that’s still very terrifying. So there you go. There’s two sources, both of which rank on opposite ends of the media bias spectrum, Washington Post is more to the left reason is more to the right. And from what I could see, you know, that’s based on the fact checking media bid bias websites. So point being, we can throw away that number 300,000, for sure, we can throw that away. And if Ashton Kutcher really cared about this stuff, he would have read a few articles like I just did, and would have came to that conclusion. But he’s not he’s using that number to scare people to sell products to make money, which I think is the grossest thing one can do. That’s why I don’t like Operation Underground Railroad anymore. Because I think that’s what Tim Ballard does. Just my opinion. Moving on, back to Thorn, all right, but still point point case. 27,000. That’s an absurdly gross, high number. I don’t like that at all, even if that’s the right estimate. Like, that’s terrible. Still a problem, right? Still problem, which takes serious. Okay, back to Thorne All right, everyone. Good. Everyone’s still with me here. Okay. Hope you’re still with me. Okay, I read a Reddit post. So you know, the comments are full of experts. But hey, I read a Reddit post. And it was a criticism of Ashton Kutcher and his philanthropy saying you was exaggerated and used to push civilian surveillance. Because thorn has multiple arms that work for the CIA under the guise of helping with trafficking, which is what my concern is. That’s my concern with the Underground Railroad operation Underground Railroad and the sound of freedom thing. Same thing with Trump, right? They push the cue QA anon and Trump they all push this, we’re saving the kids stuff, which is great. Yeah, no, I didn’t hear Joe Biden thought about saving no kids. Right. But like, is he really? Not really? Really? Maybe you did? You could argue I do think that maybe Trump did push some kind of something about that. So I don’t maybe that’s a bad example, right? Because I pick on Trump all the time, but he did do some things that were pretty good, right? He didn’t put us to any wars. I know that. So good for him. Okay, the Reddit poster is this Passion Pit. And he’s got some links to provide the backup for his citations, which are pretty good good for him or her don’t want to assume genders. Is this Passion Pit says the statistics these organizations use about trafficking are made up from this article Thorin claim that 100 to 300,000 children are turning to prostitution every year. But a two month investigation using law enforcement data showed that there were 8263 arrests across America for underage sex work over the past 10 years. All right now the number of rests does not equal the number of cases. But still points to the idea that the number is much lower than 300,000 or 100,000. For that matter. The redditor says they’re also notoriously shady about talking about what they actually do with their AI software stating to Congress that they can’t disclose how it works. The red or provides a link by the way. On reason.com the headline Ashton Kutcher claims he helps cops save way more sex trafficking victims than authorities say they’ve actually found. And I’ve actually read that one of my research, it basically lays out the numbers and says Ashton Kutcher, those numbers aren’t accurate. It’s what it says. But Thorne does supply the police with, quote unquote, free see a link surveillance tools to protect kids. And like I always say, they always push. What’s that? What’s the terms here? Privacy for the promise of safety? That’s the thing. It’s very much the Patriot Act, right? You trade in your privacy, for the promise of safety. And you know, nothing is promised. Safety is never 100% promised. So do you want to give up privacy that easily? I mean, there’s arguments you could say that you do need to give up some privacy. It’s like, with the airplanes, right? I don’t mind I gotta walk through the the metal detector. I’m actually okay with that. Now, is it 100% Because you can make a plastic, you know, guns and stuff. It’s not 100% But it’s okay. It makes me feel a little safer. I’m okay with it. Cuz I remember a day when used to not do none that you stick your family used to walk you to the gate and you’re good. Now, yeah, take your shoes off and stuff. Okay. But anyway, there’s the idea that number was made up yet again. They’re shown 8000 arrests made over 10 years. So like, okay, not every case gets arrested. Okay. But I don’t want to focus on that anymore. I want to talk about software and the CIA surveillance. And this Reddit user posts. Links to reasons dot coms website for that statement about how Ashton Kutcher can’t disclose how it works on a reason.com has a beef with Ashton Kutcher, not I don’t know. This is from 2017. On Wednesday, actor Ashton Kutcher testified before the US Senate Committee on Foreign Relations on behalf of thorns and anti sexual exploitation organization he co founded with Debbie more thorns main project is spotlight a cloud based data collection and analysis tool that purportedly helps police find sex traffickers. According to Katrice testimony before Senator John McCain and other US lawmakers the app, supported by the McCain institute, as helped save more than 6000 us sex trafficking victims including 2000 miners in the past 12 months. According to Caldera, the company behind spotlights technology.
The app was used in 1305 criminal investigations into sex trafficking Between September 2015, and September 2016, identifying 4624 adults victims and 2025 minor six tracking trend sex trafficking victims. These numbers wildly outpaced the average number of new criminal investigations into sex trafficking opened in the US each year, or average number of victims identified by US law enforcement. For instance, between 2009 and 2015. FBI agents working with state and local police across America identified an average of just 175 minor victims per year. And they cite it to the Attorney General. The 2015 Annual Report to Congress and assessment of US government activities to combat trafficking in persons. Okay, where did this Where do these numbers come from? Seems like he’s also inflating those numbers. In regards to the statement, that thorn giving police free CIA linked surveillance tools to protect kids that read or post a link to a website unlimited Hangout, which is written by none other than Whitney Webb. She’s brand in many of the similar circles I’ve run and she’s on rock Finn. I think she’s been on tinfoil hat a bunch. But there’s an article on unlimited Hangout from September 2020. And it goes deep boil boy, does it go deep, far more than we can go through on this article. So I’m gonna pull out a couple pieces. But if you want to go deep on this, oh, boy. There’s a lot more if you if you by the end of this episode, if you think I don’t know. I think Ashton Kutcher might be a good guy on the right side of things here. read the whole article, man. It’s a lot. All right. A suspect NGO that’s an was that non government organization. A suspect NGO claiming to combat child trafficking by providing surveillance tech to us police has allowed Amazon to continue supplying us law enforcement with facial recognition software, despite the tech giant’s moratorium on its sale to police. Now, this was back during the Black Lives Matter timeframe. Back when a lot of conspiracy folks were talking about how facial recognition software was being used by the police, specifically Amazon’s recognition software. Because they were scanning crowds for suspects. They, the I think the idea was like, hey, get all these people out in the street protesting, then we’ll scan them and find find all the people with felonies and parking tickets or whatever, or murderers and rapists and stuff too, right? To be fair. I’m not saying like every criminal needs to be walking around like, yeah, catch them do it. In July 2018, the ACLU released a test showing the recognition. That’s the AI facial recognition software of Amazon had falsely matched 28 Members of Congress with mugshot photos, particularly Congress, people of color 25 House members afterwards sent a letter to Jeff Bezos expressing concern about recognition. Amazon responded saying that the recognition test had generated 80% Confidence 80% That’s not that good. While it recommended law enforcement only use matches, rated at 99% confidence. Boy, and that’s one of the problems with technology, right? They want to pretend like it’s the foolproof solid answer. They’ve got it all figured out black and white, and that’s just not the case. So back to Whitney Webb, she said. However, what the Times and other outlets failed to pick up on then and now is the fact that Amazon’s recognition is still being supplied to us police. Despite its official moratorium, and deed US law enforcement agencies are still being offered Amazon’s facial recognition software by an NGO partnered with Amazon that was created by actor Ashton Kutcher, who frequently co invest with Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos, that NGO called Thorn continues to supply the controversial software to law enforcement agencies around the country under the guise of helping police combat child trafficking. Don’s role in supplying such software to law enforcement. Despite moratoriums is also notable because its founder Ashton Kutcher, has publicly and tearfully supported Black Lives Matter amid the recent protests that provoked Ashtons moratorium on sales of recognition to police in the face. Please. In addition, Kutcher is also a major investor alongside Amazon’s Jeff Bezos and a company that supplies AI powered software to low law enforcement agencies further undermining cooters professed software for ending racial inequities in policing. All right. Now, recall how we talked about Ashton’s passion for venture capitalism and tech was in tech companies. And you see how it all fits together here. Maybe he cares about kids, maybe he doesn’t. Maybe he cares more about selling AI software for his venture capitalist companies. And you could use the same argument for Santa freedom. Maybe they’re interested in saving kids, maybe they’re more interested in getting money. Maybe they’re more interested in using fear taxes to scare people that their kids are going to be trafficked. So you better donate by by this software, trust them. They’ll take care of it. Because ultimately, the real statistics are completely unknown. Nobody knows. We have no way of knowing if any of this is actually going to actually reduce trafficking. Because there’s no known statistics. Keep reading from the article here yet further investigation into Thorn cast even greater doubt on its professed altruistic objectives. Given the organization ties to CIA cutouts, Wall Street banks and another child, anti child trafficking organization, launched by Hillary Clinton and Cherie Blair as priceless as the wife of former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair. So there’s that Clinton connection again, right. And you remember when Aston was working with Ron Burkle you were called Burpo was buddies with Bill Clinton. That but on Wikipedia says they had some kind of weird falling out. I don’t know what that was about. I’m gonna keep reading. Eventually, thorns plan to create its own tech led approach to combating online child sex abuse was shelled with them instead partnering with two tech companies, Amazon and digital reasoning to produce a, quote, product to aid in identifying child sex trafficking victims who were sold online. Thordan then made the decision to develop the product itself and provide it free to law enforcement. And you know, if you know anything about social media, technology, Google Gmail, there’s value in your data, there’s they make their money off the data, the product isn’t free, it’s free. All these products are free technically. But they’re doing something with that. With that information, you’re providing them you know, yeah, they’ve free email, but they’re so Gmail but they’re watching. They’re seeing what they’re doing so they could sell ad spaces, right? Oh, this person emails about you know, beard trimmers. They’re in a beard trimmer selling some beard trimmers or whatever. Thorns partners per its website include many of the largest Silicon Valley tech companies, Amazon, Google, Twitter, Facebook, Salesforce, Microsoft, Intel, Dropbox, and Adobe as well as Goldman Sachs and Verizon. They’re also partnered with the NGO Polaris, which operates the US National trafficking hotline and whose current CEO is a former operator for US aid a CIA cutout. Polaris is also a member organization of the Clinton Global Initiative, an organization allegedly devised and initially financed by Jeffrey Epstein and also associated with Epstein’s co conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell. Other NGO partners of thorn include the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, which I think was the one earlier said they said specifically do not use that statistic that Ashton uses, which is ironic. The international brands of which was launched in 99 by Hillary Clinton and Cherie Blair, and the McCain institute for international leadership named for the late hawkish Senator John McCain and hosted at Arizona State University. Where all was done, hang on.
The majority of thorns work involves providing local and federal law enforcement agencies with a software suite called Spotlight. Spotlight under the guise of combating human trafficking is a sweeping AI power surveillance tool. That per the tech companies that helped create it is currently used by more than 2187. Law enforcement and intelligence agencies in North America is provided to us law enforcement free of charge by the Thorne organization allowing law enforcement easy access to controversial surveillance systems that they ultimately use for much more than combating sex trafficking. The software pattern is also used by the Department of Homeland Security. And it goes on and on and on. And it ties digital reasoning, which is, you know, the spotlight, that company makes the spotlight to the CIA. Because of the CIA, their venture capital company called in Q tel, if you recall in Q tel was at one time, I don’t know anymore was run by David Petraeus, the former director of the CIA. We talked about that on our 5g episodes a few years back, about how the Internet of Things is about hooking everything to the internet as a master surveillance plan. But the point is that the intelligence agencies have fingerprints on all this stuff. And we already know Epstein didn’t kill himself, right. And Whitney’s web article is like drinking from a firehose, you should read it because there’s a ton I’m not going to get into here. But she accurately points out that Kutcher got his start as a model with Abercrombie and Fitch, which was owned by Leslie Wexner. And allegedly he is he was besties with Epstein. They have financial ties, as per everyone. And he was also cozy with Charles Bronfman they started a thing called the mega group. And, you know, the Brahmins were part of that Nexium cult as well. I mean, it’s what it’s way too cozy with a lot of people here, right. And she points out that some board members of thorn we’re very serious people like Joe Lonsdale, who’s one of the co founders of Palantir who Palantir served as a contractor to all 17 US intelligence agencies funded through in Q tel. Well, his girlfriend accused him of raping her. I mean, the whole topic. It quickly goes into territory that a I’m not qualified to speak on. And be I’m a little scared to speak on. Citing various key players like Nick Kristof, who’s partisan, weird conspiracy. At least that’s how it’s presented in the few articles that I can quickly submit for you, apparently, allegedly pushing some kind of conservative Christian surveillance stuff shutting down porn sites, using inflated stats with ties to Exodus Cry some other Christian outfit that ties into foster acesta. It’s a lot. It’s an exhausting amount. But the point is, there’s a lot of real uncomfortably close ties that Ashton Kutcher and Thorin has with a lot of these suspect organizations and surveillance organizations. Let’s talk about personal side of Ashton Kutcher. He also dated Brittany Murphy in 2002. She died a few years later. He’s got a brown belt in Brazilian jujitsu. He criticized Penn State’s firing of Joe Paterno said it was important taste. I was actually a student at Penn State Online when the Sandusky scandal happened. I was very saddened by this. I grew up going to Penn State football games. And I loved Penn State. I still do right it’s my alma mater. They fired Joe Paterno. He was a legend there right. He fired they fired him. Now I think officially Joe Paterno told the president’s I think Graham Spanier or something like that was his name. A the Sandusky guys messing around with kids or I’ve heard he messed around with kids or something. So in theory, he did what he could but Sandusky kept working with them. I don’t know like how like how serious should Joe paw have really taken? I don’t know. But it is kind of weird that Ashton Kutcher who’s trying to defend sex trafficked and abused kids criticize Penn State firing Joe Paterno. He also writes a letter defending Danny Masterson, a convicted rapist. I don’t know, man. It seems a little weird. Another thing that’s weird. I’m going to read you right from Wikipedia. You can fill in your own blanks. And then we’re moving on. Kutcher grew up as a Roman Catholic. As an adult, he practices Kabbalah, and had visited Israel and study the Torah. His wife Mila Kunis stated that he taught me everything I never knew about her religion Judaism, though as of 2018, he has not converted. on trips to Israel Kutcher visited Kabbalah centers in Tel Aviv and sis fat and 2013 Qatar remarked Israel is near and dear to my heart coming to Israel is sort of a coming back to the source of creation, trying to get closer to that. And as a creative person going to the source of creation is really inspiring. This place has been really inspiring for me not only a spiritual level, but also on an artistic and creative level. So he’s also in the Kabbalah turns out now before we wrap this whole thing up, let’s go through some interesting videos. There’s a lot of videos circulating right now on social media about all these people we’ve been talking about the last three episodes I’m gonna play a series of them back to back for you. I found a great that on Twitter by at Cali cat. The rest were various sources. The first clip is going to be Mila Kunis on a talk show talk about how she was forced to kiss all the guys on that 70 Show. The second clip is going to be Ashton Kutcher talking about how he was 19. Amelia was 14. And they sort of make light about how Danny Masterson bed him 20 bucks that he couldn’t French kisser as she blocks him from actually put his tongue down her throat and ends very creepy. He says stuff like Ashley critters and stuff like she was 15 That’s a big year for a girl. That’s when her world changes like, I don’t know, dude. The third clip meal is sitting on Ashton’s lap, and he’s definitely like, dry humping her. There’s a bunch of videos of her being sexualized my daughter she’s underage that whole time. Ashton testify under his thorn time about conditioning when he was the run in the thorn by the Congress. He was talking about child children being conditioned, which is ironic. And then he’s talking about Hilary Duff turning 18 There’s another video I didn’t find where Danny was talking about Mila being much hotter when she was younger. ticketless
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I’m worried about you on the show, because you keep the way higher. Why?
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Because I’m the horn.
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I think so.
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It’s upsetting to my parents as well. I
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off camera. I know you’re such a nice lady. Thank you for what you’re all of 19 Yes, yeah. And and and you’re you’re in the show though. You’re you’re just
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adding one who’s kissed every single guy on the show except for Topher for Topher Grace, and in fact, they’ve kissed Laura’s boyfriend Chris, who guest on our show, so I’ve kissed the master since I’ve kissed everybody. That’s so wrong. Is it? Yeah, yeah, it is. quite wrong. Yeah.
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And what are the writers? They’re just throwing? They don’t care?
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No, they really do. I don’t know what they’re thinking. I have no choice. Just kiss every man and I would never.
Speaker 4 48:03
What’s funny is when she was she was 14. When we started the show. I was like, 19, right, right. And they’re like, Okay, you guys are going to be making now in a scene. And I’m like, thinking like your first kiss ever Right?
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Was my first kiss when someone bet you made with Danny about our first kiss?
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No, what’s the first? Like, second or third kiss? Was the thing the first week? No, it was not the first week whatever.
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Let me tell you what happened? No. I’ve never kissed the guy. I was I was so I mean, you know, Ash was attractive. And I was a 14 year old little girl and I was extremely scared for my life. Sure. I know. He was very nice about he was like, Oh, don’t worry. Sounds like okay, then daddy goes to I’ll give you $10 If you’re French kisser Why don’t you speak my stick your tongue in my mouth or some
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wooden? Oh, no, no, no. You’re making it sound like it was like really? Okay, dad. We had a little side. Which was whether or not you know like you know you’re on the show. We’re boyfriend and girlfriend. Yeah, you would you stop right most of an actor you are? Yeah, so did best me like 20 bucks that I wouldn’t do it. And of course, I’m like, Yeah, sure what to do when the cops showed up and he got arrested and pretty much
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did it. He did that. I swear I swear it Mira did and he never did. I think he tried.
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Yeah,
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you did the old teeth block. Yes.
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You’re muted, matched and just admitted.
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She didn’t stop it. She
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would know that was not the first you had turned 15 By then she was 12 And right now, there’s not one year makes the whole world change. Alright then.
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My name is news. And then from that 70 show and you’re watching me. Hi, I’m Ashton Kutcher, and I’m from that 70 Show TV. But and the reason I’m doing this is not because I think increased discouraged not because Josh told me to sit on my lap
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seen video content of a child that’s the same age as mine, being raped by an American man, there was a sex tourist in Cambodia. And this child was so conditioned by her environment that she thought she was engaging in play.
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Wire. She also has an album out. She’s going to be in a movie called Cheaper by the Dozen and she’s one of the girls that we’re all waiting for to turn 18 along with the Olsen twins,
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all right, thank you collusion was wrap this thing up, okay. Danny Masterson found guilty of rape nonstatutory Ravenswood. A lot of people are sort of conflating here. similar but different, right, especially now with Ashton Kutcher and Wilmer Valderrama. Mila is kind of stuck in the middle of all this because she was only 14 When she was on that show. And to be fair, most of those videos I played, they were you know, they were jokes about waiting for a girl to turn 18 or Ashton at least acknowledging that kissing a 14 year old felt wrong and unlawful. So in a way, at least, they’re acknowledging that this is not kosher territory, right. So they’re joking. And back then in the 90s, early 2000s, it was kind of a trope. It was kind of a joke back then to talk like this about a girl waiting to turn a girl turn 18. Of course, it’s very creepy today. Don’t get me wrong, it is creepy. But I do recall it being a sort of joke back then. So I hate to condemn them for today’s standards. It’s not as bad as Republican state senator Mike moon, who went publicly talking about how he’s more or less supports the idea that the age of consent could be 12 years old. That’s creepy, right. But, you know, the creepy underage factor. I mean, you could, you could talk your way around that with me. Because you’re talking about stuff back from the 90s and 2000s. And it’s like, to be fair, at least they are saying like, Oh, I can’t wait for her to turn 18 It’s like, okay, I mean, when she’s 18 she’s legal, so it’s like, I don’t know. It’s It’s so creepy. Absolutely. Yes. What about Topher Grace, I haven’t mentioned him much. Well, let’s go to mamma mia.com and Chrissy bricks there has been calling out a lot of these people, she addressed Topher Grace. The star of that 70 Show whose letter was noticeably absent in the trial. During filming, there were lingering rumors that Topher didn’t get along with the rest of the cast, which prompted his early exit and season seven to pursue a movie career. In light of massive sins conviction, fans have started to look at tau first time on the show in a different light. For her part Chris, he claims that it was Topher who was isolated by the cast under Master since instruction. So like I said, part one maybe he’s like the unsung hero here. Maybe he was aware of all this the whole time. But if you look at the Joe Paterno thing, it’s like being aware versus raising a flag. How much do you condemn a person? I don’t know. And then, let’s, let’s let’s talk about a call and religion. Church of Scientology, Cedric Bixler Zavala, and Chris he used to be members as Laurie Prepon. Danny Masterson, the current member funfact Tom Cruise follows Danny on Twitter. Ashton Kutcher is in the Kabbalah. I’m gonna read you from this was tv.com says Topher Grace was once labeled an outsider on the set of that 70 show he rarely hung out with cast members after the cameras stopped rolling. But right after co star Danny mash Justin’s recent imprisonment, many say Topher was right to steer clear. Danny has study Scientology since childhood, and he has a long history
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of a problem.
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As a member of such a group, Danny encouraged other cast members to join. Moreover, that 70 Show staff would throw Christmas parties as annual parties when in reality they were Scientology fundraisers. However, the only person from that 70 Show cast who didn’t write a letter and Danny spore was Topher Grace. Blah, blah, blah. So there you go. That’s and of course Ashton Kutcher. We’ve got all that speculation. Who knows right? But the fact that I’ve 24 pages of notes on these guys in three hours of show speaks volumes. There’s a lot of weird stuff going on here. So there you go. I hope you enjoyed this. If you’d like to show five stars, I need that five star rating on whatever podcast you’re listening to, to support the show. There was a lot to talk about here. A lot of controversial theories. I leave it up to you make your own choice on what you want to think about all these characters. I certainly don’t know. All I’ve got to go on is what I read. So thanks for listening to the show. If you want to learn any more, I’ve got links in the show notes for all my books and everything else. And very interesting research to do this on that 70 show and I hope you enjoyed it leave a five star if you did till next time Stay Woke
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