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Isaac Weishaupt 00:04
My name is Isaac Weishaupt. And I’m here to talk to you about Interstellar the film. I’m going to provide you the symbolism analysis. What was this movie about? It’s about everything. And I’m going to tell you the whole truth and nothing but the truth. If you didn’t catch that at the beginning there, that’s my homage to Sam Tripoli, his tinfoil hat. You know what he says? He says he’s hit a rock. Well, I’m here to rock to Damn it. hit a rock to we’re going to talk about oh my god, what Aren’t we going to talk about? These are the say what we aren’t going to talk about. But basically, if you haven’t seen Interstellar with Matthew McConaughey, it’s all right. All right. All right. All right. But I do need you to know that I will be spoiling the plot. This is one of the greatest films of all time. Top 20 for sure, I’d say. Maybe cracking the top 10 I don’t know. Wasn’t damn near three hours of crack the top 10. We’re going to talk about Saturnian symbolism, the idea of perfecting man the alchemical pursuits of mankind, by the occultist to leave this planet and leave this disgusting shell of a body that’s limiting us. And to create a new civilization out by Saturn. We’re gonna go through a lot of stuff here, folks. So I want you to strap on and strap in right
here we had flat
Indian surveillance drone. solar sails.
She didn’t do nothing.
You’re a well educated man coupe, and a trained pilot and an engineer. The world doesn’t need any more engineers didn’t want out of planes and television set ran out of food. That’s bad.
Oh, we didn’t. Murphy’s Law. Murphy’s law doesn’t mean that something bad will happen. It means that whatever can happen will happen.
We must confront the reality that nothing in our service system
can help us now you need to tell me
they’re not meant to save the world.
We’re meant to leave it.
And this is the mission who were trained for. I’ve got kids Professor good out there and saved them.
We must reach beyond
we must confront the reality
of interstellar travel.
Isaac Weishaupt 03:48
Is it worth it? Is the movie worth it? for three hours? It better be because here’s the part where I tell you my if you haven’t seen Interstellar, should you go watch it before you listen to this? Absolutely. Go watch it and come back if you’re maybe a little bit younger, and this is all new territory for you. You haven’t seen the movie? It was a big hit when it was out I saw in the theaters. The answer is definitely yes. This is a great film. Buy it. I think I bought Yeah, I bought it. I paid like it was on sale for like 10 or 15 bucks, or 20 bucks. It’s a premium purchase. Buy it on the vinyl, watch it on the biggest, baddest television you can. It’s awesome. Great visual effects. Christopher Nolan’s a great director, he moved the story along at the right pace. Because I get bored very easily in three hours is way too long for a movie but this one, he makes it work. Good stuff. We’re gonna but I’m gonna if you haven’t if you don’t want to watch it or if you don’t remember it, I’m going to walk you through it. I’m gonna walk through the whole storyline and break out the occult perspectives as they appear. First and fun facts I wrote about this film back in 2014. Back in the old golden blogging days on Illuminati watch.com, which is still up, it’s still there if you want to look at it. We talked at the time, you remember the s a n di, space h o okay. shootings that happened. Well, that was a hot topic. And if you recall, Christopher Nolan had a film called Dark Knight Rises. That was the one with Batman and Bane. The there was a scene where they point very clearly to the the that particular term on a map. s hook. Why am I not saying the words because I don’t want to get censored, okay. into oblivion. You know, they arrested a guy in January, still, they’re still arresting troopers for talking about this theory about what happened at the hook. I don’t know what happened. I wasn’t there. But I don’t want to get lumped in with that. I don’t need that kind of drama in my life. But anyway, Dark Knight Rises, had that scene. And then they also had, this is stuff I was talking about on the blog. Nathan Crowley relative to Alistair Crowley was a production designer on Batman as well as Interstellar. So he works with Christopher Nolan. Just a curious little fun fact. And then also, the voice of the monolithic robots in interstellar were voiced by Bill Irwin, an actor who was also in a 1998 film called illuminata. I haven’t seen illuminata but the artwork the cover art shows a staircase going up to the cosmos. It’s a story about music and it looks boring to me. So I’m not watching it. But the but the film, the artwork for the film, Interstellar has the spiral on the poster. This is the evolution of consciousness. It’s man transcending the limitations of the human body and getting into the higher dimensions, which is exactly what this story is about. Also, Matthew McConaughey was at the same time in a show called True Detective on HBO, which I also did a massive write up on in the blogging days. And if you recall season one, there was a dead girl with the horns affixed to her head and a spiral tattooed on her back. She had the spiral tramp stamp on her back. They insert these symbols and messages charge of the magnetic chain. But that’s get into the movie itself. You’ve been forewarned, plot spoilers, let’s go. The year is 2067. And there’s a dust bowl killing the crops choking people. They actually use footage from Ken Burns Dustbowl documentary, Ken Burns was on 60 minutes. Recently, by the way. I’ve seen I’ve seen several of his series films, whatever want to call them. They’re very good. There’s a Vietnam one that was spectacular and tragic and sad at the same time. Anyhow, in the future, they kill off all the crops, all the food, people are choking. They’re like we gotta get out of here. We got a guy we killed the earth can’t habitate any longer. And ironically, they have to mask up. They keep masks on them. And they have to mask up whenever a dust storm blows through which is very fitting for to watch in 2020. Now, you know what I think now’s the time to invest in masks, folks, because they’re talking already like the pandemic stuff will continue. And we’ll always have to wear masks and all that stuff. So if you have the capabilities of investing in masks, do it. If that works out for you slice me off some of that chatter in the future. So Cooper, is played by Matthew McConaughey. And let’s not forget to point out the late great Bill Cooper William Cooper, the conspiracy theorist who was part of my two stage red pilling, he and David Ike are the ones that turned me on to this lifestyle. Cooper, that’s Matthew McConaughey. He’s like the main character of this movie. I like this movie because there wasn’t a ton of characters. So that makes it very easy for me to talk to you guys about it. Well, he is a farmer and he’s also an engineer. So we already know what his role will be. As an engineer, it’s to kill us, kill us all. While they show him he’s got the families at the at the on the farm in the farmhouse. And he’s talking to his daughter Murph. About how science works and they’re talking about go she’s seeing ghost. And he says, Well, that’s not very scientific. Have you?
Let me guess.
Is your ghost
knocked off my shelf? just knocking books off?
No standard ghost no mass. Hey,
I looked it up. It’s called the Poltergeist.
dantooine Ah, it’s not very scientific. Marie.
You said science is about meaning what we don’t know.
Hey, start looking after our stuff. If you want to talk science, just tell me that you’re afraid if someone goes Oh, you got to go further. and record the facts and like to down the why. And present you conclusions. New
Isaac Weishaupt 10:50
Yeah, good. desko Hold on. Now this is foreshadowing because the story is about the fusion of science with spirituality, which is what this is all about this, all of this capital T age is this is a fusion of science of spirituality. The transhuman evolving mankind into the next thing. Murph, she’s got these books get knocked over bookshelf by ghosts. Cooper doesn’t believe it. He refused to believe it, because he is a scientist through and through. We need so also as part of this future storyline, they have to repopulate the earth. And the crops are dying. All of them except for corn. How appropriate, right? If you read up on any like Michael Pollan has a very good book The Omnivore’s Dilemma where it reveals the politicizing of corn and how we rotate through corn and soy crops and it’s destroying the soil. And the, you know, I don’t know there’s a bunch of farm lobbyists involved. It’s a very complicated thing. But more or less, everything revolves around corn, they take corn and make corn syrup. And they use that to replace the sugar. They use the corn to feed the cows, but the cows have three stomachs, and none of them are made to digest the corn so they get abscesses, because of the diet they give them and then they pump them full of antibiotics because of all the abscesses that they have to live with. But the American diet needs corn fed cows, because it’s cheap and subsidized by who, by you, you pay for this system. And you wonder why people have their problems with government? Well, it’s not the government. That’s the problem, per se. It’s the lobbyists. It’s the corporate interest involved. I mean, everyone plays their role in this. But yeah, anyway, corn. Corn is king in 2067. as it is today, still. And by the way, Cooper, he’s the most unrealistic data ever. Can we talk about this for a minute? In a five minute span at the beginning of this film, the drive it’s Cooper and his daughter Murph and his son I think his name is Ted is irrelevant in the whole film is useless. And they’re driving around in this pickup truck and in a five minute span, they get a flat tire. The son is driving he literally almost drives them off a cliff to death. And now one time, did Cooper the father raise his voice? Not once. A flat tire and then the son almost kills them. calms a Hindu cow. The Hey, you know what, that’s Matthew McConaughey for you. Next Cooper, he he’s talking about because we have set up act one here this is they’re laying the foundations of who this family is and what what they do. Cooper wants Merv to go into college. But the schools won’t allow her because she got into a fight at school over conspiracy theory.
Take a seat.
we got Tom scores back he’s gonna make an excellent farmer. Got a knack for that college? Well, the University only takes a handful they don’t really have the resources. I still pay my taxes. Where where’s that money? Go? There’s no more armies. No, don’t go to the university. of coop, you have to be realistic. you’re rolling my son out for college now. It gets 15 Tom’s score simply isn’t high enough. What’s your waistline? 32 by 33 inseam. I’m not sure I see what you’re getting out. You’re telling me it takes two numbers to measure your own ass but only one measure my son’s future. Come on. You’re a well educated man coupe and a trained pilot and an engineer. Okay, well right now. We Need more engineers? We didn’t run out of television screens and planes we ran out of food. The world needs farmers. Good farmers like you and Tom, an educated farmers. Were a caretaker generation cope, and things are getting better. Maybe your grandkids will get to be down here, sir. No. This Holly’s here to talk about Murph.
Murph is a great kid. She’s really bright. But she’s been having a little trouble lately. She brought this in to show the other students the section on the lunar landings.
And it’s one of my old textbooks. She always loved the pictures.
It’s an old federal textbook, we’ve replaced them with the corrected versions, correctly, explaining how the Apollo missions were faked to bankrupt the Soviet Union.
You don’t believe we went to the moon.
I believe it was a brilliant piece of propaganda that the Soviets bankrupted themselves pouring resources into rockets and other useless machines,
And if we don’t want to repeat of the excess and wastefulness of the 20th century than we need to teach our kids about this planet, not tales of leaving it.
Isaac Weishaupt 16:20
Yeah, turns out, she had an old book with the fake news about a fake moon landing on the moon. Because in the future, they believe the consensus belief which creates reality is that it was just cold war propaganda. And none of it was real. And Cooper hates his theory because he’s a science nerd, and he loves NASA. And he loves the idea of moving off planet. But I found that a very curious element for many reasons. One, the conspiracy theory behind it, as I discussed in Kubrick’s code, because the theory is that Stanley Kubrick filmed a fake moon landing as part of Cold War cold war propaganda. an interstellar actually has homages to 2001 A Space Odyssey throughout the whole film. So it’s curious that the film that Kubrick used to fake to film the fake moon landing is the one with all modules in interstellar, and will refer to 2001 Space Odyssey many times in this analysis. Well, Murph, she’s in her room, and these books keep flying off the shelf. Things are ghosts, Cooper thinks she’s crazy. And they determine that the books being knocked down correlate to a binary code of zeros and ones with thick and thin lines. And Cooper is like well, wait a minute. And he provides any any figures out that these are coordinates. And when you hear him talk about the coordinates, he says the number 33. So he punches it on his like GPS or whatever, and they follow it and it comes up to a gated shack influence imply that it’s a military type thing. And yeah, the military type folks, he’s getting ready to like cut the cut the lock on these are I’m going in here, I gotta see what’s going on in here. Because the ghosts were telling him to go there, right. But what I want to talk about is that the number 33, it could refer to the age of Jesus Christ when He started his ministry. Because as you’ll find out later, Cooper is the new savior to mankind. He is the Horus character. Also, we can’t ignore the 33rd degree of Freemasonry and Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, the highest level one can get to, by invitation only to do that to get to 33. You have to accomplish something to support the great work to find the last word of Freemasonry. So here we see, Cooper is trying to reach 33. But they tell him he’s not ready. They stopped him. But later, he does, in fact, achieve the great work. But at this point in the film, he’s not ready to be initiated, he hasn’t achieved the wisdom necessary for the free Masonic Luciferian last word of evolving mankind. Heavy Duty ideas here, but keep that back pocket till later. So it gets in there. And what’s curious is that they keep them sort of like they separate him from his daughter. And in the room that he’s in he he were introduced to these monolithic robots. tars, it’s kind of like the future Marines. There’s these monolithic robots, I’m gonna say monolith. I’m speaking of 2001 A Space Odyssey with the black monolith, which is what? You know, the these models, they play a role. And I always suggest to read the novels for the because there’s four of them in this Odyssey Space Odyssey sequence. But in the in the books, the alien consciousness stares these monoliths to do their will, and their will is to evolve life forms on various planets. So curious enough. This was in fact, modeled after the monolith of 2001, these tars marine robots. So they’re talking to Cooper and, you know, it’s a movie right? You got to suspend disbelief a little bit, but they’re just like, okay, you found us good enough, you’re in the club. Let them back in the conference room, where they’re going to tell him all the secrets because you know, Hey, you know what, you found us good enough. We’ll let you in. And they take him into the meeting room and you see Lazarus on the wall with an all seeing eye of Horus and the eagle which is the Phoenix which again represents the alchemical rebirth, the redefining of the new transhuman and I’ll put the photo on the Instagram at Isaac Weishaupt. As always, you know what to do? Like and Subscribe. The I think I’ve got juice you guys for my maximum Instagram audience. So thank you, if you already done so. But yeah, you can see Lazarus on there, which which, you know, you’ve got these chemical references throughout this whole film. They they beat you in the face with it. But there’s no chemical meaning here, right? There’s the death and rebirth cycle. With the Phoenix and the Lazarus, of course, Lazarus raised from the dead by Jesus Christ, whom the occultist believe in, but they say he’s not God. They just say he mastered the secret wisdom. He was a magician. They’re like, yeah, Jesus was cool, but he wasn’t God. That’s what they believe. And this is similar to again, another Christopher Nolan film, The Batman, Dark Knight Rises where Bane was in that pit. Because in the comic storyline, there’s these things called Lazarus Pits. And you got the rasa ghoul people, the gabagool people, the they got, they go down these pits to restore their powers and come back to life essentially. So I call the Lazarus Pits. And you saw this character, in vain. Vain was in one, not a Lazarus Pit, but he was in a prison pit. He was in darkness until he he was in darkness underground until he rose to the surface and came to the light. A new light was blinding. Remember that scene? Again, more occult symbolism, because in Freemasonry, you got to go from the darkness to the light. We’ll talk about that later. Again. Put this in your other back pocket. You’re going to run out of pocket soon. My Pocket gun lessons your prison pocket. Put this in your back pocket, because we’re going to come back to this this idea of darkness and lightness. So they let Cooper back there. And they reveal big reveal that like I guess what were NASA? Yeah. You thought we were shut down for refusing to bomb people? Which I would argue maybe there’s some hints of us spaceforce there, right. But anyway, they, they they say look, we thought they disbanded us, but we had some black budget. Because they like look, you got to research and find out how Why is Mother Earth dying? Why is nitrogen getting too high and oxygen too low? Everyone’s gonna choke out and die. We got to figure something out. So NASA starts the Lazarus mission missions to find a new home for all of mankind. Because apparently the future government is like look, this isn’t gonna work out for us. Let’s let’s get out here. So we find out that in the briefing room there was an I’ll put an again another image it’s just a picture of Saturn, but they talk about their breathing Coover like look, there was this wormhole out by Saturn that appeared 48 years ago, which I did the math on that those 2019 was the year they find it. They’re like someone placed it there. Someone they call they
Who’s they? He started detecting gravitational anomalies almost 50 years ago. mostly small distortion store installed. Once in the upper atmosphere in fact I believe you and count upon yourself and with this trade
I crash something fly by wire. Exactly. But of all these anomalies the most significant is this out near seven a disturbance of space time of war appeared 48 years ago and they were another galaxy wormholes not a naturally occurring phenomenon
seven places it there they
Isaac Weishaupt 25:41
so yeah so they the aliens or whoever which we’ll find out later who it is it’s like someone places wormhole on by Saturn we got to go to Saturn for the enlightenment. Just like again 2001 A Space Odyssey, the so that they say, Well, you know, these aliens or whoever they put this black hole here and when you go or the wormhole here when you go through the wormhole, there’s a you know, 12 new worlds within reach. So they sent 12 one way missions called the Lazarus missions out, and each one was sent to each new world to see if this was a place they could send all of humanity to. So like, they’re like, Hey, this is one way tickets reaches, go out there send a positive response back if all of humanity can come out there to live. So only three missions got positive responses. That was Dr. Mann, Dr. Edmonds and Dr. Miller. I don’t know if all three of them are doctors, Dr. Mann, for sure was, whoa, come up later. So they call those planets respectively, man, Edmonds and Miller. Now let’s take a step back here. Look at what this was, this was 12 disciples sent out. And this is, you know, the number 12. There was a there’s also the idea there’s 13 witches in the coven. Right. But you got the 12 disciples, and they have a mission to establish the new world the new, dare I say religion, because this has a lot of Christian undertones, because each disciple was sent out to start their own start the church, the new faith. So that’s essentially what you have going on here. So they’re telling Cooper, they’re like, Look, Cooper, we need you, you since you found our secret hideaway. Now we’re going to give you the keys to the space shuttle. And you’re going to fly out to the new world and check out these three planets and see which one we should move to. And they say, look, here’s your two options. Here’s our two plans. We have Plan A, you’re going to find the right planet. And we’re going to move all the people from Earth to this new world. But the problem with that is we’ve got to solve this equation for gravity. We to master gravity. We don’t know how to do it yet, Bob ozar hasn’t figured it out yet. Then Plan B is the population bomb. They’re like, here’s the other plan. We’re gonna take 5000 fertilized eggs out to this new planet and repopulate that planet. In case we can’t master gravity and send all of these mouth breathers on earth out there to this new planet. Okay. Here’s a side note. There’s a scene where they talk about don’t trust the right thing done for the wrong reason. This world was never know for you was a coop
workers heading out there, I feel like I was born to do and it excites me and not make it wrong. It might not trust the right thing done for the wrong reason.
Isaac Weishaupt 28:54
Now if you recall, we talked about this on the Zootopia film analysis. Right where they they’re kind of like Tama this ends justifies the means stuff. I believe drumpf said something similar. When when they remember I was drunk was talking to Woodward, Bob Woodward. And he was like, Look, I already knew that this thing was gonna kill way more people than the flu. I didn’t want to scare the people, the ends justify the means. Is this similar? Is this similar? Is this the same message? They don’t want to tell everyone the truth because everyone can’t be trusted. And I don’t know if that’s right or wrong. I don’t know if that’s right or wrong entirely. On some levels, it is that that thinking is what gets you on a bad track of not being transparent and sharing information. I always opt for I’d rather take honesty but I get how the masses entirely as a whole can’t always all be trusted to do the right thing in the face of fear. So I get I can be some Back to both sides of that argument. So Murph. So Cooper goes back home and he tells me like, Look, I’m about to go out to space here. I’ll be back. And she said, she said Pop’s is about to bail on her to find a new planet. Because mom’s dead. She’s been dead. And he’s like, Look, I’m about to go do this thing. And then they have a sort of sad conversation worth listening to if you’re watching the movie. He says, you know, as parents, we’re our job. We’re just here as memories for our kids. And once you’re a parent, you’re the ghost of your child’s future, which plays a role later again, this is some foreshadowing heavy duty sto though right, Dan? That’s wild. That’s wild. You’re, you’re a parent, you’re just a memory for your kids. pretty deep. Now. Murph, she reveals that there’s been another binary ghost message because she’s trying to persuade coop her dad, like, Hey, don’t leave. I got this. I got a message from the ghost again, says stay. And he’s still in the scientific frame of mind. He’s like, this kid, whether they’re nonsensical imagination, he’s like, No, I’m out. And he leaves. So then we have these then we have the sort of brief discussion on theories of time dilation, which held true to Einstein’s theories of relativity. meaningless like as one travels, or approaches the speed of light or travels to the black hole, time slows down. So when Cooper he’s out there, flying around black holes and stuff. His time will slow down. But meanwhile on Earth, the time will not meaning when he gets back home in two years for Cooper, it might be 20 years for Murph. Which is one of the big, interesting points of this film was that they held so true to the the theories of physics. So that concludes Act One. Act one called FM kids, I’m out. So act two starts. Hey, you know what I didn’t, I didn’t do it. I didn’t make the film that way. But that’s what they did. Cooper’s out, leaving his kids with no parents crying on the bed. Act Two starts NASA and Cooper. They’re all gone out space. And they’re like, okay, it’s gonna take two years to get to Saturn. And this is where you get a lot of the cool little Coover 2001 space type shots. They talk about the unknown. They have they put a spherical wormhole out by Saturn because when you take a two dimensional hole in three dimensions, you get a sphere right? Again, this is a little a little foreshadowing a little conceptual molding of what this story is about. It’s about men accessing the higher levels of dimension abstracting and this is a great part to watch good film good film. Now they temporarily they go into this extra dimension above 3d I think I don’t know when they go into the wormhole. And they get on the other side they find out that one of the planets Miller is very close to this massive black hole called gargantua. And the high gravity of gargantua means that relativity will shift their time experience like we already talked about. So like for every little bit of time they spend on out near on Miller out near this black hole. A lot of time on earth is gonna fly by and you find out during this little interchange that plan a saving the people on earth wasn’t ever really feasible because of relativity, because one hour on this Miller planet is seven years on Earth. One hour on Miller is seven years on earth and they shame Cooper for only thinking about his family. And we confirm see nerds don’t have empathy. They only like science
and maybe he was sending the thumbs up right until when dark
Miller still looks good though, right? Because she’s coming up fast. With one complication. The planet is much closer to gargantua then we start ganja it’s what we’re calling them the black hole Miller’s and Dr. Man’s planets both orbited
and is on the horizon was a basketball around a hoop. Landing there takes us dangerously close and a black hole that big has a huge gravitational pole Look, I can swing around the neutron stars.
This time the gravity on that planet will slow our clock compared to Earth’s drastically.
Every hour we spend on that planet will be
Isaac Weishaupt 35:14
seven years back on Earth.
That’s relativity folks. Well, we can’t just drop down there that Uber, we have a Mission Viejo, we have a mission and our mission plan is to find a planet that can habitate the people that are living on the Earth right now. And just think about your family. Now you have to think bigger than that. Right? I am thinking about my family and millions of other families. Okay, Plan A does not work if the people on earth are dead by the time we pull it off.
No, it doesn’t.
That’s why there’s a plan B.
Okay, coop is right. We need to think about time as resource just like oxygen and food going down, there’s going to cost us
Dr. Mann’s data is promising, right? But it’s going to take us months to get there and admin sits even further.
Miller hasn’t said much. But what she asked sent is very promising. It’s water. It’s organics every day, no, you don’t and just think about the resources, including time that would be spent trying to get back here.
Isaac Weishaupt 36:20
So they they make a compromise, like, okay, let’s just go do a real short trip on Miller to minimize the amount of time on earth that flies by. And they’re taking a look at gargantua, which looks like a massive Saturn. And more importantly, they actually refer to it as the Heart of Darkness. Okay, gargash was the heart and again images on the Instagram. So the Heart of Darkness, well, we got to get a little deep into the call philosophies as to why this is important. Because there’s this idea of the dark path through the center of the capitalistic tree of life, which takes you in a day off, which is the hidden realm. And this is the abyss. This is the Abyss that Alistair Crowley talked about approaching when one was ready, prepared to be dissolved into the black nothing. And this is the realm in which if the initiator is not prepared to enter, they will lose themselves entirely. And they approach this thing called corones own it’s a wacky old thing. But anyway, this, this day off the hidden, hidden realm on the tree of life is akin to the heart of darkness. which is again, where you get Darth Vader, Darth Vader, who demonstrates the outer hidden realm of day off as well as the symbolism of Saturn with his black outfit. The black cube and that’s why that’s why they’re all called dark like Darth Maul, Darth Sidious, Darth Vader, they’re all registered day off. Because these ancient occultist, the ancient wisdom, believes that Saturn is the outer most planet, it’s the adversary planet, it’s the necessary evil. It’s the other side, the antinomian, the shadow side, it’s all these things. It’s the materialization of spirituality that created the world in which we live. And then what they want to do is reverse that they want them to spiritualize the entire material world. Again, fitting into the stories and the sequels of the Space Odyssey novels, which we’ll get into soon enough. So they they’re like okay, let’s do this. So they get on Miller, a touchdown, it’s a water planet dammit. And they find out that the beacon is actually underwater, and that massive waves are coming to kill them. So they’re like, well, damn Miller’s dead clearly. And, you know, they basically get out of there. They lose one of the NASA nerds, he’s dead now. But Cooper and brand who is NASA’s, she played by Anne Hathaway brand, okay, that’s her name. She actually plays a big role in this film. She’s Cooper’s concert in the tail. But they get also the Miller took way longer than they wanted to they get back up into like the mothership. And one of the NASA nerds it’s they got left behind. He’s like Yo, where you been? It’s been like, a million years. They’ve been 23 years. But they’re going to a little, little little fight a little fight.
Judging by the wreckage, she was broken up by waves who’d after impact.
The record stayed together after all these years
because of the times pitch this planet’s time she just landed hours ago.
She probably just died minutes ago.
The data Doyle received was just the initial status echoing endlessly Oh, you’re not prepared for this? survival skills for Boy Scout troop?
Well, we got this far in our brains farther than any human in history. Oh, not far enough.
And now we’re stuck here to the woman but he went left honors to say
I’m counting every minute
the possibility No, some some clever way we can maybe I’m gonna jump in a black hole came back two years. I’ll shake your head at me.
Time is relative. Okay, it can stretch and it can squeeze but it can’t run backwards. Just can’t do it. The only thing that can move across dimensions like time is gravity.
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And your Cooper he he takes a jab at the nerds because the reason that took him so long was because brand and Hathaway she tried to reach for the brass ring and get the data off of this recorder. Because scientific observation, right. And the whole time Cooper’s like look, we gotta go. There’s this massive wave come robot all about to die. And she’s like, no, I need the data. I’m a scientist. So her mistake cost them decades on Earth. Cooper said, and he calls him eggheads. I love it. He’s picking on the nerds now. Now he’s starting to wake up to the idea that well, maybe science isn’t the end all be all. We then hear a little bit about these Fifth Dimension creatures.
The beings that lead us here and communicate to gravity, right? Yes. Could they be talking to us on the future?
Maybe they can.
They are beings of five dimensions. Time might be another physical dimension. to them. The past might be a canyon that they can climb into and the future the mountain they can climb up but to us it’s not okay. I screwed up. I’m sorry. You knew about relativity.
My daughter is 10 years old couldn t drive sounds theories.
Couldn’t you have told me you were going to save the world. Know
when you become a parent, one thing becomes really clear. Is that you want make sure your children feel safe.
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And again, we’ll get into that a little bit later. But anyway, they get off the planet they get up to the orbiters thing. The little screw up means that the orbit has been up there for 23 years. And 23 is important in discordian ism. It’s a fake religion. Kind of a Robert Anton Wilson’s Illuminati trilogy, which 23 is two plus three, the law of fives. All things happen in fives divisible by five. I just found that curious. Right. And then, you know, Cooper’s like, okay, so to get up there Cooper’s like well Damn. Been 23 years on Earth. I missed everything. So he hears the He’s like, I’m gonna listen to my 23 years of messages that he missed while he was splashing around in the bathtub on the planet Miller. Meanwhile, on Earth, the kids had already given up on dear old dad, they’re pissed at him for leaving. Ain’t that a bitch? mercs all grown up. She’s working on science. She’s now trying to unlock the secrets for gravity for Plan A. It’s been 23 years and they’re still trying to figure it out. Meanwhile, back in space, they only have enough fuel to hit one more planet because they screwed up. Remember, there was three planets they were going to check out. One of them was Miller the ex ad off the list. They only got enough fuel to hit one more. So again, a little debate about where to go. brand. Anne Hathaway she’s like I say we go to Edmunds planet. But then Cooper calls her ass out and he’s like, yeah, here’s a problem with this brand is in love with Edmunds, the guy on the planet. So that is a very onset, unscientific then there’s like a good little conversation about how love is an element that transcends time and space. It is actually the higher dimension.
Granted, but Edmunds data is
more promising. We should vote. Well, if we’re going to vote, there’s something you should know. Read, he has a right to know. What does she’s in love with wolf admins? Is that true?
And that makes me want to follow my heart. But maybe we’ve spent too long trying to figure all this out with theory.
You’re a scientist brand.
So listen to me. When I say that love isn’t something we invented it’s observable powerful. It has to mean something.
Love as meaning Yes, social utility, social bonding, child rearing love people
who have died. Where’s the social utility in that? None. Maybe it means something more, something we can’t yet understand. Maybe it’s some evidence some artifact of a higher dimension that we can’t consciously perceive. I’m drawn across the universe to someone I haven’t seen in a decade, who I know is probably dead. Love is the one thing we’re capable of perceiving that transcends dimensions of time and space. Maybe we should trust that even if we can’t understand it yet. Alright, Cooper?
The tiniest possibility of seeing wolf again excites me. That doesn’t mean I’m wrong.
Honestly, it may.
tars chart a course document.
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But yes, after all that love talk. Cooper’s like tars flood of course, the planet man. Ha. Got your bit. Science nerds win. f your love. Edmunds. If you Anne Hathaway Oh, man, it was great. Good part of the movie there now. Meanwhile, back on Earth, Murph. She finds out the plan eight this whole time. She’s been working on the formula for 23 years. She’s talking to oh boy who’s been working on before her and turns out it’s all bullcrap. It’s not gonna happen. There’s no formula for overcoming gravity. What is you stupid? There is no plan a fake news. Plan B was the only plan all along these 5000 embryos. Just like got raised by wolves, right it’s the same thing from raised by wolves. The Hacker nerd. Like you know what we need to start brand new. So they’re back in space. And they land on man. Planet man, and it’s a frozen planet. Geez, here we go. Right. When for nothing more water nothing but ice. They March out to the camp where Dr. Man has been living for all these years and and they wake him up because he’s sleeping in one of his little pods. And guess who it is? Guess who plays doctor man? Man yay yes Matt Damon He wakes him up they wake his ass up and and this was actually a big secret for the on the film. No news was coming. I think I saw this on opening weekend if I’m not mistaken and I was surprised to because they didn’t put his name on the credits he wasn’t in the trailer they didn’t even let him attend the Premier’s good little surprise for everybody. I like a good I like a good surprise. Doctor man, he was basically committing suicide he went to sleep in the pod he didn’t even set a wakeup date. And you know they make note of Lazarus raising from the dead connection or actually just rose, Dr. Matt Damon from the from the dead basically. And then we find out a little more about Plan A and plan a re required this reconciliation of gravity with relativity. But to do that, you need to get information from the singularity inside of a black hole. But they can’t do that the gravity is so strong that the Singularity is an eye quote as they say in the film, hidden in darkness behind the horizon. Now we’re going to take a long detour here. It’s gonna be worth it though. This is a this is another reference to the Abyss the forbidden realm the hidden zone. The Mavs zone. This is again a free Masonic principle of bringing the initiate from darkness to the light. They say the information they need to save mankind. is hidden in darkness behind the horizon. Because in Freemasonry, they remove the mask from the initiate and the rituals to bring the candidate from darkness to the light. Previously they were hidden in darkness. They were ignorant. They need the wisdom, the light and the light is the last word of Freemasonry. Now, Freemasons. They learn in the initiations that the secrets have all the wisdom has all been lost. Let’s refer to our Mackey’s encyclopedia Freemasonry, there is a passage for last word, and it says and I quote, the mythical history of Freemasonry informs us that there was once existed a word of surpassing value, and claiming a profound veneration, that this word was known to, but few, and it was at length last, and that a temporary substitute for it was adopted. But as the very philosophy of masonry teaches us that there can be no death without a resurrection. Did you hear that? The philosophy of masonry teaches us there can be no death without a resurrection. That is the principle you see on this film with Lazarus by its very definition. Let’s keep reading though we’re not done. There is a there’s no decay without a subsequent restoration. On the same principle, it follows that the loss of the word must suppose its eventual recovery. And then he describes it listen to this as they describe looking for the last word, the truth, the wisdom later on, he says it’s a mythical symbol of the decay and loss of the true religion among the ancient nations. The true religion among the ancient nations they’re telling you right there there is an old solar religion Luciferian faith and that’s the true religion let’s keep reading though. Okay the the true religion among the nation’s and after the dispersion on the plains of shiner and of the attempts of the Wiseman, the philosophers and priest to find and retain it and their secret mysteries and initiations, which have hence been designated as the spurious Freemasonry of antiquity. Mackey, he then goes on to describe the search for the last word as the metaphor for the initiates journey upward through the degrees. My God. Isn’t that what Matthew McConaughey is doing in the movie? Trying to achieve that 33rd degree? Yes, he is. Now you go to your boy, Bill Cooper, not the mechanic. Hey Cooper, the Bill Cooper. And in his Mystery Babylon series, he asserts that the Mystery Schools This is the repository of this ancient knowledge and the true religion and Mackey is alluding to they believe that Horus was the newborn son. And it means and the definition is word so when we said the word was loss horse was lost this is you know, the word is the monolith in 2001. Horses the body have perfected eight EPS who are meant to defeat Christ in the unholy trinity of Osiris, Isis and Horus there, the sun so one of the film they say the secret teaching they need to save man is hidden in darkness behind the horizon, we have to consider the claim that horizon is Horus, sun. Okay. hora sun horizon. Got that Horace son. And God’s Son is, Horus is killed by the prince of darkness at sun set. So set kills Horus the horizon is killed by the prince of darkness at sunset, the darkness kills the light again, you have to understand the Gnostic conversion ideas. The Christian God is the real oppressor he’s the real darkness obscuring the true teachings of the old true religion that Mackey’s talking about is the last word. And according to Bill Cooper, which I do believe I do subscribe to the idea that this last word talk is referencing a Luciferian religion that’s been lost over time and obscured. Back to the movie. There’s a nice little conversation about how they can’t even tell the masses about planning because they’ll be scared. They can’t tell them And then brand around, I’m sorry, murf she says that she’s got another idea of how this could end based on a feeling. Okay? So she’s going with her gut a little bit. So again, it’s this idea that we have this hardcore science and then a little bit of well, maybe I’ll get in tune with my right brain thinking here. Back on space, Matt Damon, Doctor, man, he faked the data, so that people would come and save them. They he lied and said, Hey, guys, come on down here, because he wanted to be saved. Because he was but the plan originally, they were supposed to be these brave astronauts and the plan was you go to your planet and if you die if you if it’s not habitable, guess what? You’re dead. Sorry. That’s why you’re considered a brave astronaut. But Matt Damon changed his mind the last second. So anyway, he, he gets into a fight with Cooper tries to kill him. Dr. Man is officially the Judas type disciple. He is the selfish deceiver. And, you know, drama ensues. Now just to check in, we’re only two hours into this movie stuck out one hour to go. Why do they do this? Why not just make it a part one and part two? You can take double of my monies. I mean, but this particular film actually handles this very well. You don’t even notice it. It actually is very, they do about as good as you could ask for. So Matt Damon, he fights Cooper, buddy, you know? Anyways, he basically blows himself up like jack Parsons, dumb ass. So he’s already out of the picture. Boom, he’s done. Cooper saves the day. They get back on the orbiter. They’re like, Okay, we got one planet left to check out. edmon that’s our last hope. Here’s the problem. We don’t have any fuel left. Because you remember, brand was out there. Look, let me to get the data off the recorder. They’ve been burning all the fuel the whole time. So they decide, you know, Cooper, he’s a smart guy. He’s like, you know what we’re gonna do, we’re gonna fly around that massive black hole gargantua as a slingshot. That’ll give us enough acceleration towards Planet edmon. This is a necessary evil, this is a move that’s gonna cost them another 51 years. And in the process, they also need to sacrifice tars one of the monoliths into the black hole, because it’s Newton’s third law. Okay, every action has an equal and opposing reaction. So they need to jettison mass. That’s your force, your mass times acceleration in order to gain it. So if tars he he’s a robot, he don’t care. He’s like, yeah, send me in the black hole. He says, I’ll tell you what, if I see any information in that black hole, I’ll I’ll I’ll shoot it out to you know, Okay, perfect. Again, another incredible visual scene on the film. And they’re, they’re going around the slingshot. They dropped tars, like See you later. And then surprise, Cooper’s like, okay, guess what I’m out to. Scott loves surprising people with his bailing out. God does not say goodbye. That’s his problem. So this movie is all about Matthew McConaughey doesn’t know how to say goodbye. He just makes these abrupt departures. A, he looks over brands, I guess what I got to jettison too. But you need me to do that, because you’re not going to have enough acceleration to get to Edmond. So deuces. So he goes into the black hole to again, this is the Newton’s third law. For every action, there’s an equal opposing reaction. This is forces and I look I took physics in college took two semesters of it. Some of the most difficult courses I’ve ever taken but incredibly rewarding so much. So I kept my fundamental physics books by how they Resnick and Walker, seventh edition, you can do the math, and I figure out how old I am. Because you Every year they add a new edition to make it you know, $300 book. Anyway, so this is what happens in 2001 Space Odyssey by the way. Astronaut bomb, David Bowman, he goes towards the monolith out by Saturn, and it pulls them into a wormhole. And that’s where he goes and he’s in the Hilton room where he becomes the star child and he saves Earth from itself by detonating the nuclear warheads. That’s in the book version. It’s not the same in the film. But that’s what Cooper is about to do. He’s about to do the same thing. So he Jacks from the crafts goes into the black hole, which is by the way, one of my worst nightmares. terrifying. No, again, another great part of the film. He falls into the singularity. And it’s a coordinated grid they call the Tesseract. Any dragon himself to a stop where he sees the bookshelf back home on Earth. With Murph as a child, he’s basically inside the timeline of history of his memories. Because in this Tesseract time and space are completely like, left in the A, it’s all it’s all his memories, right laid out on a grid sort of. And this is where he starts. He’s like, oh, man, this is a nightmare and he spelling stay in the the Morse code to childhood Murph. He’s the ghost, right? He’s the ghost. Going back in time to tell Murph. Hey, tell your dad to stay. I’m your dad. And I’m saying Don’t go. This is bad. And of course, this is exactly what Murph does. And Cooper doesn’t believe her and he leaves anyway, right? So he watches this memory of himself leaving after Merv tells him to stay even though he’s trying to speak to her through the Morse code and she’s reading it. He’s the ghost just like he said, the parents are the ghost. Meanwhile, back on present day, earth, adult Murph. She figures out, oh, man, my dad was ghosts the whole time. reaffirming that statement that he made before he left Earth about the parents and the kids and the ghosts. So she figures it out right. Then we go back to the Tesseract and Cooper, he gets radio comms from tars and tars tells him like, hey, they saved us. They the aliens or whatever they are. From the fifth dimension, they saved us.
in their fifth dimension, they saved us. Hell is a
want to help us.
I don’t know. But they constructed this three dimensional space inside their five dimensional reality to allow you to understand it.
Yes, it is. Up to
Isaac Weishaupt 1:02:21
you see, they created this three dimensional Tesseract inside of their five dimensional existence. To help humans understand that time is a physical dimension. And you can exert the force of gravity across space time to send messages Got that? gravity can cross dimensions like time thus, tars can send the quantum data back to Earth to Murph. We’ll revisit that in a minute. Now, Cooper, he gets the binary coordinates for NASA secret bunker reveals in the dust on the floor, the 33 stuff, right? He basically is like, Hey, here’s the coordinates go to the NASA secret layer. Because they’re, you know, back to Harvard many years ago, I lost track of time when Murph was a child, and Cooper was still at home with her before he pulled a deadbeat dad honor. So he’s revealing the coordinates and the dust to try to guide young Murph and Cooper to the NASA facility. And he went back in time to warn himself not to go to space and also reveal himself so that Murph could understand right that’s what this was is for Murph to understand that he was able to use gravity to send messages across space and time to the future or past. He is the bridge to connect mankind’s three dimensional world and send the messages so they can save themselves by accessing the five dimensional world. It’s all crazy. It’s craziness, right? Who can follow this madness? Basically, he’s trying to show he’s trying to prove her through the scientific method here. Like look, I’m from the future and the past you can pick where you want to live on the timeline. Because you got the four dimensions got length height width, you got your position right then you that’s your three dimensions. Then you have your fourth dimension which is time the fifth dimension is an level of abstraction above that meaning you can pick where on the timeline you want to view and interact with travel in the future or the past. Crazy stuff now, he makes note of how the tests are act is all basically just merps room right? He notices I Why is everything just Murphy’s room. When you’re living in the fifth dimension, you can access any point of space and time. Any point you want of the four dimensions of space and time. The aliens they they need a specific cific location in space and time to send these messages to they don’t know the right timing of when to send the earth humans the information about this. But Cooper knows, he knows how to share that information because he’s connected through a higher plane of consciousness of love to Murph. It’s a pretty wild idea, right?
Could you give me guitars?
I brought myself here.
We’re here to communicate with the three dimensional world.
We’re the bridge.
To say the world.
All of this to one as a girl’s bedroom. Every moment is infinitely complex. They have access to infinite time and space but they’re not bound by anything. They can find a specific place in time we can communicate.
To find a way to tell me dislike I found this moment. latos law system. My connection with it is quantifiable is the key. What are we here?
Isaac Weishaupt 1:06:46
This is basically the plot of the Space Odyssey sequels, man evolves into the next dimension to living mortally. Now, he puts a message into the watch that he gave her as a child in Morse code, knowing that she would look at it as an adult because again, remember, love connects them. It transcends beyond the dimensions. So the adult Merv she understands the Morse code. She’s like, oh, dad’s in another dimension, that we could also access and get off this loser planet Earth. She scrolls a bunch of equations and NASA does a little homage to Archimedes by you Rica, which in Greek means I have it. The message was a success. tars says the bog beings are closing the Tesseract and the test rack collapses and Cooper reveals he comes to conclusion the ball beings they’re not aliens, it’s us. It’s us from the future of the future. These are further evolved humans that understand what five dimension five dimensional living is. Mankind only knows the four dimensions remember? So he really he understands like, Oh, it’s it’s a further a lightened form of mankind. It’s not aliens, it’s us. The Tesseract collapses, Cooper becomes some kind of light being you see him going through the timeline, the four dimensional timeline of space and time he shakes hands with brand which was back at the beginning of the journey through space. When they travel through the wormhole. She things get blurry at the beginning of the film, and she’s like, Oh, I shook hands. This is the first interdimensional contact that was Cooper. Again, this is just like if you read 2010 this space odyssey Bowman the guy went to the hotel in 2001 and becomes the Starchild. he interacts with the humans in 2010. Messenger and emissary he, he appears on the TV in the book. He’s calling his mother’s hair. He’s interacting with mankind, much like Cooper does. Cooper is the enlightened moon child. And when he when the Tesseract collapses, and he turns into this being of light, you see him float past Saturn, again, just like the end of 2001 A Space Odyssey. What a movie now we’re in the denouement. We made it. We made it. Cooper wakes up. And they tell him he’s at Cooper station, which is currently orbiting Saturn, by the way. And they named it after his daughter, not him. Because his daughter, remember, she got the formulas to unlock the fifth dimension. So they decide so they’re like, okay, Cooper. Your daughter’s really old now. She’s dying. She’s in the hospital bed. You can go visit her and he goes a visitor and now he’s younger than her right? And she’s dying. She’s on the deathbed. And she’s like, talking to him about how brand is still out there. on planet Edmund, a planet of death, how she’s probably dying alone right now. So what does Cooper do? He leaves her again. He leaves his dying daughter again. He leaves her. He’s like, You know what? I see you’re dying. And I see I’ve already abandoned you one time. I’m about do this again. Deuces. And he’s like, I’m gonna go save brand. Hey, you know what? Maybe they’re just setting up for the sequel. And that’s fine. It was a great movie. Go for it. Yeah, he leaves her ass in the hospital bed. And you hear and he’s traveling out to save brand on planet Edmund. Because man will explore right? That’s the idea here. But at the end of the film, you hear Murph. She’s narrating and she talks about how they’re living by the light of the New Sun. And she’s talking about how brand might be lying down to die by the light of the New Sun in their new home.
Setting up dam
in a strange galaxy.
Isaac Weishaupt 1:12:26
And again, to put a capstone on this, no pun intended, no Illuminati Pun intended there. 2001 A Space Odyssey in 2010. When you read those books, in 2010, you know they do the model is create a new star for mankind, a new sun. And guess what it’s called? I’ll give you three guesses. You only need one they call it Lucifer. Because in the in the book, The monoliths they become these self replicating nanobots and they increase their density of Jupiter. until it becomes so dense, it turns into a star and explodes and now it’s the New Sun. It’s Jupiter. So that’s basically what Murphy is saying at the end of interstellar, she’s saying that they’re living by the light of the New Sun out by Saturn. We also have hints of this breakaway civilization idea. talked about on raised by wolves, especially because at the end, you see Edmunds grave is a pile of stones. And if you recall from the raised by Wolf show, you heard me do the cult of mithras. There was a mithras was a God who was born from a stone when lightning hit it. Lightning again, a symbolic of Lucifer. So let’s wrap it up. What was this movie about? Well, in conclusion, two main points first point, strangely enough, science is not the end all be all.
Isaac Weishaupt 1:13:56
That’s what we find out. When Cooper’s experience and mercy experience and love and all this stuff. Sometimes science isn’t the guiding answer. Example this losing weight, right? You would think it’s calories in calories out. But it’s not, not entirely the body is a holistic machine. You need all these other factors. You need your sleep, you need your certain composition of nutrients. You got to give the body what it needs. Doesn’t mean science is wrong. It just means that whoever interprets the data can manipulate and deceive. I’ve argued with engineers about this because they say no, it’s calories in calories out. And there was like that. Remember that jackass professor who ate a low calorie diet of Twinkies for a month and lost weight? I mean, calories are part of the formula, right? For sure. It’s a huge part of the formula but it’s not the whole thing. That’s all I’m saying. Science is on some levels. subjective some levels. Just depends on what we’re talking About. Now Second, the the main theme of this tale is that it is the occult rebirth. Man must evolve into the next phase the higher dimensions man must leave Earth. Sort of gnostic, if you want to take it to that, that route. NASA’s the hero in this story was so his love and relationships. NASA saves mankind through the Lazarus missions. It’s the alchemical rebirth of the dying man, which again, you go back to that conference room at the beginning of the film, and you saw Lazarus with the all seeing eye with the eagle, which is the Phoenix, the alchemical rebirth of man because man is dying, and is dead. Signs of love rebirth, the star child of Matthew McConaughey
alright. Right our
Isaac Weishaupt 1:15:56
path of salvation was to go to Saturn, the adversary planet, the sixth one out there, right. That’s why 6666 planet out there. That’s where they need to go to find the salvation and Cooper goes through the black hole to find the last word of Freemasonry, the secrets to the fifth dimension, and love which transcends the dimensions. The fifth dimension is to collapse a wave of potential because there’s infinite timelines and possibilities. So as we said at the beginning of this story is about the fusion of science and spirituality, which is, in fact, the transhuman. All right, hope you enjoyed that show. That was a lot to get into this will be a part of my set my user illusion to book I am working on, when will it be available? mid to late 2021? Probably just depends. If you haven’t checked out Use Your Illusion one. It’s now up on Amazon, Audible, I mean, the I narrated the audio book, so I tried to make it really easy for you. It’s called aliens UFOs and the occult user illusion one.
Isaac Weishaupt 1:17:14
yeah, you can check that out, because usually allusion to is going to just go through many films, to talk about how they’ve been conditioning the masses to accept the new reality, even giving us symbolism and messages of the occult, through films such as Interstellar. And I’m here to reveal that truth to you. So you understand what is happening in this wacky world of ours. So check out those images again on Instagram that I put up for Interstellar. You could check me out on Twitter at Illuminati eyes. Also subscribe to the podcast, leave your reviews. You could get me on the Patreon you can get me on the rockfon whatever you want. It’s all yours. And until next time, stay woke