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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign.

[00:00:05] Speaker B: The Dark Enlightenment series that I took you down. You’re gonna have to listen to today’s episode. I got a very special guest, Courtney Taylor, and she’s been digging into this stuff way deep. And today we’re going to catch up with her life story, which is fascinating. And you’re going to hear about her background and how she got red pill awakened and her research into the Dark Enlightenment. We’re going to talk about the technocracy movement, the planned AI government, Hegelian left and right dialectic, various political ideologies. And she goes deep into the world of the tech oligarchs and. And you’re gonna hear about Game B and all kinds of stuff. She talks because she’s writing a book, so be on the lookout for that. And I’m gonna put links in the show notes where you can catch up with her podcast and her social medias and a couple videos that we referenced during the interview. One is about the Hegelian dialectic and the other is about a Technocracy roundtable video.

So check out her social medias, her podcasts and her videos while you’re listening. And also if you’re watching the video version of the show, which, as you know, I’ve got the. The Tier two supporters, they get the ad free video on unlisted private links. But I put the I’m putting free feed videos out on my Spotify Rumble and new I don’t third YouTube channel.

We had some Internet connections and there’s some lag issues that I couldn’t. I thought I could fix it post production and I could not, turns out. So the audio should be fine, but the video version, you might see some parts where the lips don’t match what’s being said.

My apologies. Okay, so here you go. Check out all of her links while you’re listening to the show and I will catch you on the other side.

All right, today’s guest is a person I had the privilege to meet only recently when we were doing a show with Donut together. She’s the host of the Courtney Turner Podcast, where she’s been exploring some super deep topics that I know I’m interested in. I know all my listeners are going to enjoy. It’s a blend of philosophy from my perspective, a blend of philosophy, technology, and how it’s shaping our world today. And when we were on Donut show, she was dropping mad knowledge on the Dark Enlightenment and I just had to get her on here to share her perspective.

So welcome to the Occult Symbolism and pop culture podcast, Ms. Courtney Turner.

[00:02:34] Speaker A: Thank you, thank you so much for having me. It’s an honor.

[00:02:37] Speaker B: Of course. Yeah. This is great. You know, it’s, it’s, it’s interesting to me when I find, because I have this weird. When I first started all of this sort of conspiracy realm stuff, I was really deep into who the figures were of everything. And over, over time, I find myself sort of isolating into my own world of research, as I’m sure you’re, you know how this goes.

So when I did the show with Donut, I, I, I didn’t know who you were, like, to be honest. And, and that’s fine because I don’t know who a lot of the, the, the sort of, the voices are in the, in, in the movement here. Right.

And I was like, I was listening when we were doing Donut and I was like, oh man. Like, she’s, she, she knows some stuff because like, you had a background in philosophy and stuff. And what I, what I think would be the best for me and the audience is I would love for you to share your journey into this sort of conspiracy theory realm because I’m always interested in how people end up over here. You know, from what, from what, what I do know. Reading through your, your information in your bio and on your website, I’ve seen a lot of parallels and common interests that I’ve had that got me into this specifically maintained, maintaining a physical and mental health and things like this. So I’m curious to hear your perspective. Would you mind kind of briefly going through, you know, your, your life’s journey of how you got here, if you don’t mind.

[00:04:02] Speaker A: Yeah, sure.

It was definitely somewhat unusual. I, I make the joke that it took me a very long time to find the train station, then I found the high speed rail and I’ve been like scrambling to catch up. And what I mean by that is I, I woke up very late. Like 2020 was kind of my wake up moment. And I did have people along the way who planted a lot of seeds, grateful for them. And this is why I tell people, don’t get discouraged if you’re trying to share information. You feel like it’s falling on deaf ears because you just never know when those seeds that you planted are, you know, when there’s going to be fertile soil for it to sprout. You just don’t know. So, and that was the case for me. And you know, everybody has their reasons why they’re ready to listen to something or why they reject the information of that time. And for me, it Was, you know, very. It was very personal. My. My father was really what I wouldn’t have known at the time, but he was very much a neocon. And it, like, politics is one of the only things we would really talk about. So I couldn’t, like, hear some of these things that people were telling me because my father would tell me, you know, don’t listen to them. They’re crazy conspiracy theorists. Like, you can’t, you know, you have to ignore that. That’s just nonsense. And I really felt like I didn’t want to jeopardize the relationship with my father at that time. And so I kind of just, you know, pushed it down, ignored it.

And then 2020 hit, and of course, I lived in Santa Monica, California, where everything shut down. It was, you know, the. It was quite tyrannical. And for those who are not familiar with my story, my birth story, I was born with kind of an unusual set of circumstances.

My mom was sick during first trimester of pregnant pregnancy, and I was rendered with all sorts of physical complications. So I’m blind to one eye. I actually had cataract sur surgery when I was only three months old. They. It was not what it is today, and they left debris. They had to go back and do, like a retinal cleanup and all sorts of subsequent kinds of surgery. So I’m actually blind in that eye. And then I’m hearing impaired bilaterally. I didn’t get hearing, so I was almost six years old, though I learned how to speak by reading lips. My first accent was actually British because we had. My baby nurse was from the British island, so.

[00:06:19] Speaker B: Oh, wow.

[00:06:20] Speaker A: Yeah, they move their mouth so differently. And I learned by, you know, mimicking. So I was mimicking the very closed mouth kind of speech, and that makes the different sound. That’s where you get the dialect so fascinating. Okay, so I. I had heart surgery. I was a year old. I was born with hypotonic limbs, fine graphic motor impairments, stunted growth. They basically told my mom the best she could hope for me was find very nice institution for me to spend my life because I was going to be, you know, completely autistic, blind, deaf. I don’t mean that to know, politically incorrect, like, you know.

And so fortunately, they were wrong. I’m very grateful for that. And fortunately, you know, we were able to find ways for me to cope and overcome some of these challenges. However, when 2020 hit and I’m living Santa Monica, California, and everybody’s got their face covered, I didn’t realize how much I still Depend on non verbal communication for clarity of speech until all the coping mechanisms I spent my life developing were then stripped from me. And so I, you know, I was in the entertainment industry, I was an actress, I was a film producer and I lived in, I grew up right outside New York City and then I lived in LA Santa Monica. So I was used to being in a sea of leftists and I was very used to kind of downplaying or you know, staying out of political discourse because it was. My views were typically not well received. So being someone who doesn’t love to seek confrontation and doesn’t love being fired or blacklisted just for, you know, speaking my mind, I, I usually opted out of those discussions.

But when 2020 came around I found myself just being.

I, I can’t prove it, but I’m like 99.999 repeating infinitely sure that I was fired from both of the gyms at the time for political reasons. And you know, there was series, a sequence of events in both gyms that kind of lead me to believe that that’s what happened.

So I was also an aerial acrobatic performer and I would speak mostly on movement as a metaphor for life. And I would talk about like the philosophical components of physical movement where teaching people how to use their physical training as a teacher to help them overcome adversity in other areas of their life. And I would do the aerial performances mostly just to prove to people it was possible when Nobod thought it was and because it’s really fun. But of course when everything was shut down and you can’t conjure in groups of more than whatever arbitrary number, obviously those events were shut down. So I found myself unemployed with lots of time on my hands and I thought it would be a great opportunity to write. And I found myself so incredibly anxious and depressed because I couldn’t talk to people because everybody’s face was covered and I couldn’t understand them.

So I was really, really depressed and anxious, which I don’t think I was alone in that, but I think it was exacerbated because of my unique circumstances.

And so I found a beautiful white screen staring back at me at the end of 8, 10 hours that day and realized that I probably couldn’t force this creative process and my grand, you know, visions of writing my manifesto were probably not going to happen at that time. So I ordered 11 books and I started reading a. But then of course I wanted to talk to people about all the things I was reading and you know, chewed my mom’s Ear off for as long as she would allow me and on the phone. And then, you know, she would be very polite. But it was getting to be a bit much. So I started sharing some of my thoughts on social media, and I really didn’t think they were controversial at all. But I’ve learned that, you know, if you post a picture of an orange on social media, you will get like 20,000 people will tell you, no, that’s an apple.

So that’s just how this works. So, and so I, I found that a little bit frustrating and I had some people reach out to me saying, you should start a podcast. And I, I, I was so naive. I had not listened to podcasts. I knew nothing about podcast. And some people who had heard my birth story said, you need to be on Rogan. And I said, what’s a Rogan? Why do I need to be on it? And there’s not little I knew about podcasts. I, I know who Joe Rogan is for the record now, but, but, I mean, I was just not aware, Totally clueless. But I started listening to podcast and they became kind of my friends. I, you know, it was entertain me. I could hear them and felt like I was having, I guess the way people used to feel when they would watch TV weekly, you know, and the, the celebrities are in their living room, they feel like those are their friends. And that’s kind of sadly what became my, you know, first few months of 2020.

And then I started to think about it, and the idea of doing a podcast terrified me. However, I realized that it would be a way to have naked face conversations and that that might save my life.

So, like, even if it was over a digital interface, if I could see somebody’s face and have meaningful conversations, that would be so fulfilling and rewarding for me. So I made a commitment for six months that I was going to record conversations. If I could be so blessed to do them in person, great. But, you know, even if it was over 30, some sort of a digital interface that, that we would do that. And I told my guests that I might not air them, that this was really for me. I just want to be able to talk to people and see their faith. And I really enjoyed it. They really enjoyed it. And so I, in, I think I aired my first one in January of 2020. 2021. Sorry. And in the beginning, you know, really started coming from the, a very political and very, you know, in the health freedom kind of space. And in the beginning I kept saying, you know, if we could just get the Right. People in office and we could fix this whole mess. And I kept saying that I felt like the Republicans were behaving as controlled opposition for the left.

A few, I say a few months. I think it was really a few weeks into this process of. No, they were created to be controlled opposition.

That’s kind of how this thing works. And I started diving pretty deep down the rabbit hole. And the first, I would say my big, like major kind of veil lifting was there was a friend of mine. I don’t know why, in 2020, everybody had some sort of major crises at midnight. It was just like midnight. It was the most pressing time for me to dive into something. And then of course, I was not going to be able to sleep.

But I had a friend who sent me a video of Dr. John Coleman, and it was his, you know, Committee of 300 video, which is actually surprisingly still on YouTube, so you can find that still. And he said, have you ever heard of him? Have you ever watched this? And I said, no. And he said, okay, you have to watch this and then call me. So I did. And of course we were on the phone till five in the morning and I started looking through all of his books and I found one of them was retailing on Amazon for almost $4,000.

Whoa, what don’t they want us to know now? You can get it for 25. I don’t know what they’ve changed or, you know, what is transpired in that time, but I obviously was not spending $4,000 I didn’t have on this, but I was able to find it the PDF online. And to my knowledge, he’s no longer with us, so I don’t feel bad about, you know, taking the author’s work for free, but I read it three times in a week and it was his. It was Dr. John Coleman’s book on Tavistock, the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations.

And because my academic background had been mostly seeped in the field of psychology and philosophy, I wrote 285 page theses on dream analysis when I was in high school. They were essentially dissertations. Like I did a field work. I presented before a panel mostly of neuroscientists.

And so I had a very strong background in psychology philosophy. I did independent studies on in high school. And then I made majored in college. And so, and then I was in the film industry and Tavistock was kind of, you know, this book was exposing how all three of those fields converged for the purposes of social engineering, whether intentionally or whether it was utilized that way. People may dispute, you know, I certainly have lots of thoughts on that, but certainly they. They were very instrumental in creating tools that were used for social engineering purposes. So it really captured my interest because those were things I had been so immersed in for most of my life. So. And then that was when I could no longer be quite as naive.

[00:15:09] Speaker B: Do you think that the. Do you think that the philosophy and dream analysis and those things you had learned in. In college were at odds with what you’d read from Dr. John Coleman? Or did it kind of just say the same stuff from a different angle, like, what do you think’s going on there?

[00:15:26] Speaker A: Oh, completely at odds. So I. I had written my college thesis on existential authenticity. I had done, you know, my high school, you know, basically dissertations on dream analysis. So I was very enamored with these figures, and I was. My. All of my professors and teachers had presented them, you know, as the heroes of history.

And so it was the only things I had a mini kind of awakening in around 2011, 2012.

I had a friend who was writing a book at the time on the Frankfurt School, and I was very familiar with the Frankfurt School as a philosophy major, but all the things he was talking about were coming from a very different perspective than what my professors were espousing. However, when I was in college, I was actually arguing with my professors all the time. In fact, I had so many arguments with my thesis advisor that I would go to the head of the department of philosophy. We didn’t agree at all, but at least he would allow me to have true intellectual discourse, like, we could really hash out the ideas.

Whereas my thesis advisor was just obsessed with Michel Foucault. And, you know, he. He just wouldn’t tolerate any kind of dissonance at all. So.

But because I had these conversations with my friend who was writing this book on the Frankfurt School, it really opened my eyes to.

They were utilizing tactics to infiltrate through culture in ways that I really hadn’t thought about, or. I don’t think I was really. I knew intuitively, but my professors were arguing so vehemently against me.

[00:17:06] Speaker B: Are there any. Are there any example. I mean, I know this is like a massive can of worms to open up, and I want to talk dark enlightenment with you, but, yeah, I think we did because. Because I’m re. I’m so. I’m.

You’re aware of Jay Dyer. I saw that he. On your Twitter bio. You had a link to a conference you were throwing in Nashville, I believe.

[00:17:30] Speaker A: Jay and Jamie, I consider them great friends. Jane.

Birthday.

[00:17:35] Speaker B: What’s that?

[00:17:36] Speaker A: And I have the same birthday.

[00:17:38] Speaker B: Okay.

[00:17:38] Speaker A: Yeah.

Like a couple of years younger, but yeah, same birthday.

[00:17:42] Speaker B: Yeah. Because, like, you know, Jay gets into, like, a lot of this.

You know, I, my, my, my research and interests are trying to understand these things and then trying to talk about pop culture and the occult and, like, how all of these things kind of go together in various ways. But some of it gets a little too heady for me. Right.

And I’m trying to understand because I know, you know, Jay would talk about Tavistock things as well. And I’m reading this book. I’m trying to see if I can see the title from here, but it’s covered up. Anyway, I’m reading this book about how the CIA was part of this sort of culture creation thing, and it’s a real, like, academic type book, so it’s really painful to read, and I’m trying to hack my way through this thing.

But do you have any examples of.

Of kind of.

Because if I’m. If I’m hearing you correctly, you’re kind of supporting the, the theory that all of these, I dare I say elites are using methods of, I don’t know, psychology or philosophy to, to what, sort of steer us down a path of total control or like. Like what, like, what’s a. What’s a. What’s kind of an example of what you think this looks like?

[00:18:58] Speaker A: Oh, well, well, there, there’s so many. But I. So I recently wrote an article, I wrote three, actually, on, you know, this term, which I, I’m not a huge fan of the lab of it. I, I can support. And I wrote this article on the, the term that’s been, you know, floating around called the woke. Right. But really.

[00:19:19] Speaker B: Yeah, I’ve heard that. Yeah.

[00:19:20] Speaker A: Right. So. And it’s definitely tied into the dark Enlightenment, so we’ll get there.

I. But really what I was trying. And I, I got some flack for not being the way I interpreted it. They didn’t necessarily use this term, but not being gossipy enough. Like, I didn’t talk about. People want things that are salacious. Right. They. They want to hear all the figures, like, who are all the names and the fingers, and they want, like, specific examples or they can discuss the gossip without discussing the architecture, the operating system, and the philosophical presuppositions that underline what’s actually happening. And I, you know, for me, I’m not really interested in all that stuff. I think I’d probably be a lot more appealing to a lot of people if I were but to me, it’s really about the tactics. The tactics, because I want. It’s not for me to tell you what to think. I want you to be able to recognize the tactics and then use your own discernment. Because I think that critical thinking has been, you know, intentionally eradicated from our education.

And so.

But in this, one of the things I wrote about was how, like, for example, Christopher Rufo has talked. Has been talking about how Antonio Gramsci should be utilized for the. The right, political right, that they should use his tactics. He’s also, you know, indicated that people like Saul Linsky, who were, you know, mentors to people like Obama and Hillary, Clint, that. And he wrote the Rules for Radicals, which he actually dedicated to Lucifer, the original radical who had his own kingdom.

Yes, these are the kind of figures.

And then, of course, you know, people like the Frankfurt School, the Cultural Marxists. And so in the, in these series of articles, what I talk about are what were these tactics so that people like Antonio Gramsci were using? So Antonio Gramsci, most of his work actually came out of when he was in prison, the prison notebooks. But. And there’s a lot more that you can get. I, I recommend people reading his grandson’s memoirs. I think they’re quite revealing, but.

[00:21:24] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I’ve never, I’ve never heard of any of these names.

[00:21:27] Speaker A: Okay, wow.

[00:21:29] Speaker B: Okay, this is fascinating. Okay.

[00:21:32] Speaker A: Lenin famously, you know, was very baffled by the fact that after the Bolshevik revolution, it didn’t spread throughout the west like Karl Marx had promised. Right. He promised that you were going to have this, you know, revolution that was spread all over. And Lenin didn’t understand. He was so, you know, flummoxed, like, what’s going on? And so he had called a meeting. He had, There were several meetings, but, you know, the Lennox Marxist Institute in Moscow was one of the famous meetings. And he had many meetings with Gramsci, and he had asked and Gramsci had said, I think the problem is you’re treating this as an economic problem and you’re seeking an economic revolution. However, as long as people are entrenched in their cultural belief systems, like the culture of capitalism, for instance, you’re never going to have an economic revolution. This is a cultural problem. And so this is where he actually didn’t coin the term long march through the institutions. It was something, Roy, I have it in my article. I’m just drawing a blank on his name. But it was. That was the concept. The concept that there were these five pillars of society and that you need to infiltrate them in Order to create a long march, a cultural revolution that was gradual and incremental. Kind of like the Fabian socialist style. Right. This is why the Fabians had their mascot as the tortoise, because slow, steady incrementalism. Their coat of arms is actually the wolf in sheep’s clothing, which I think is a nod to the Hegelian dialectic which represents their tactics.

I have a substack article on the Fabian tactics of propaganda.

People are interested in diving into that, but.

And they’re actually a splinter group of the Fellowship of the New Life, which is a theosophical organization inspired by the transcendentalist movement.

But yeah, whole nother can of worms there. But so, yeah, so he, that was his recommendation was that you have to go through the pillars of society, like religion, like law, like education, like entertainment media, you know, these kinds of pillars that are anchoring society. And if you could infiltrate those, you, those institutions, the academic institutions were another one, then you could have this slow, gradual kind of subversion. And this is where, you know, we get the concepts of things like color revolution. Mao was a huge example of this. And there’s a lot of evidence that Mao was actually trained by, you know, British affiliates through Skull and Bones. Anthony Sutton writes about this. There are a few others who have written pretty extensively on it as well. But he was a, he was trained through Yale and China. China is the outfit. So he was actually a Yali. And so I, I don’t think it was a purely Chinese concept. I, There’s a lot of overlap with this cultural Marxist kind of tactics.

[00:24:28] Speaker B: You know, there, there’s this, this isn’t my, my forte isn’t like politics or some of the things you’re talking about right now, like the architecture of this control system.

[00:24:42] Speaker A: System, yeah.

[00:24:43] Speaker B: And for a variety of reasons. And it’s not my forte. So I don’t know what to think of it all. And I had Jay on and I said, because I’m not a conservative guy, I’m moderate. I’ve got a hefty amount of sort of right wing values. And then I, but I’ve got probably more values that are leftist. But overall I’m a pretty moderate guy. I’m reasonable. I think there’s extremists on both sides that, that are like so loud and it’s obscene. And I think most people are pretty moderate. But what I asked Jay is because what I know of the history of like the FBI, cointelpro, the CIA, it seemed like the intelligence agencies had a real beef with communism. And I’M not saying that’s not justified. Like, I’m not a communist guy. I, I, for capitalism, for all the evils involved in it, I think is overall kind of probably the best thing we got going. But what I don’t understand is how as a conspiracy guy who sits here and says, oh my God, the FBI was taking out subversives and communists and then they had all this propaganda like the Mockingbird that they were telling us how bad communism was and lying to us about how great capitalism is and we had all these false flag wars like in Vietnam, the Gulf of Tarkin for, you know, just to take down communism like it’s over and over and over and over. And I like, so I mean, philosophically debating, I feel like wouldn’t it be that if the, the enemy trying to deceive us is saying, no, communism’s bad, capitalism’s great, shouldn’t that make us think, well maybe communism isn’t bad, maybe the control system is capitalism. And I’m not advocating for that. I’m just saying, like, wouldn’t that, that’s where my brain goes when I start looking into all of these things that you’re talking about, like the color revolutions and things.

Tell me, tell me why I’m wrong in that, please. I, I, Jay explained it to me in a way and I was like, okay, that kind of makes sense. But I’m still like, I’m still hung up around the axles about this.

[00:26:46] Speaker A: Fair enough. And, and it’s a valid, valid question. And you’re, you’re teetering on the edge of something that is there where there’s a lot of validity. I’m in the process of, and I’ve got a sneak preview up, a bulk of it is already up substack, but I’m writing a book on Hegelian dialectics and I call it Hegel’s Dialectic Agnostic, Jacob’s Ladder and a machinery of control.

So, you know, and I do think, just to back up a little bit when you said you’re coming more from more of a conspiracy occult kind of perspective. I think they’re all very interwoven and I think so the, the joke I make and it’s not politically correct, so I, forgive me if I offend anybody, but the, the joke I make is that, but because I see that the occult works through the left and right, but it’s more like marketing kind of tactics. Not to say that there aren’t philosophical underpinnings for, you know, communism or capitalism or conservatism. There Are. But in today’s society, mostly they become target audiences for marketing purposes. And what I see is they kind of have figured out that. And that these same occult groups groups are working through the left and the right and they’ve kind of figured out that, you know, some people have mommy issues and some people have daddy issues, but either way, both. Okay, yeah, right. Some have both, you know, just joke.

[00:28:14] Speaker B: A mom. Just joking mom.

[00:28:15] Speaker A: Right? Yeah. But either way they’re gonna have, you know, the, the blue comfort blankie or the pink comfort blankie, and they’ll pacify you. Okay.

That’s kind of how they operate. So I see when you’re talking about like capitalism versus communism, people like, who I call, you know, they call themselves the futurists. And I, I always make the other joke that, you know, it’s really easy to predict the future when you plan it. So. But the, the futurists like Brzezinski and Kissinger for instance, would talk about this clash between east and west philosophies, right? Like capitalism and fascism or capitalism and communism or commun.

Fascism and how they would be pitted against each other.

And they didn’t necessarily use the term dialectical, but for dialectical purposes so that they, you know, you could create the dialectical churn. I see it as a spiral and Hegel used kind of that, you know, descriptor, and it becomes a spiral. Spiral that is pointing towards the Omega point, which I, I, they were saying would be the emergence of the technocracy.

And this gets to why I’m pointing that I think that the Dark Enlightenment and the Game B are left versus right, you know, in terms of marketing umbrella dialectics in order to usher in the noosphere concept which will lead towards the technological singularity. And I do think this is all tied to occult belief systems. It all ends up being theological, spiritual because it’s about their worldview. And I call it the technological immunization of the eschat on. So that’s a concept you’re familiar with and I’m sure your audience is as well, but that’s very much what I see them doing because they’re. I don’t know if this, it’s that they don’t believe that there is a heaven or they just don’t think they’re going there, but they want to create heaven here on Earth. For me, it looks a little more like a hellscape or a dystopia. I’m not so sure it’s going to be heaven.

But in order to bring the, this heaven On Earth it has to be synthetic, right, because they can’t create anything new. So it’s a, you know, it’s an inversion of everything and it is synthetic. It’s not organic because it’s not, you know, it’s not from the Creator.

[00:30:36] Speaker B: So are you, are you, are you a spiritual person? Do you, do you follow a certain religion of any kind?

[00:30:41] Speaker A: I, I don’t necessarily follow a specific religion. I grew up, you know, kind of without any religion. My family is actually, my family’s Jewish, which I know is not very popular these days, and they were, but they were not religious. So I didn’t grow up with any religion. And my husband’s Christian and so we’ve been starting to read the Bible and it’s just, you know, I never expected that I’d find myself like in this theological space. But when I started doing all of this of, you know, when I was looking at the political landscape, it led me to the philosophical underpinnings which I had a background in, but also led me to, you know, the psychological kind of profiling of the personalities and the, the orchestration of power and the operations of power. Right. The, what are the, and when you start going far enough down the rabbit hole of psychology, you just get into the esoteric, the occult, that’s who created it.

And when you get into the power structure of the, the oligarchs, of the architects of globalism, it’s all theosophy.

[00:31:41] Speaker B: So look at, does, does looking at all of this stuff because, because I, I’m not going to make this about me, but like, like I was raised in a sort of non denominational church with my, my mother took me, I went like three times a week. And my father, he didn’t like the church, so he, he identified as a Christian. He would read the Bible often, I’d see him reading his Bible often. But he was very much not your, not your textbook sort of Christian. Like he was a big prison guard with tattoos and, and got into all kinds of trouble sometimes and, but When I turned 16, my mom stopped making me go to church. I was like, oh, thank God that’s over.

And I had doubts about it. And when I was, how old was I 21. I met me and my wife, my girlfriend decided to get married and I got baptized Greek Orthodox and I really loved the Orthodox church. I was really hardcore about it for about 10, 15 years and, and then I kind of chilled out a little bit. And I haven’t really gone in like five years for no particular reason. It’s not like I’m like, oh, I’m an atheist now because I hate God. Like, it’s not like that at all. I mean, I still, I say prayers and I, I believe in all the same tenets of orthodoxy. Absolutely. I just.

Orthodoxy has a high demand for the practice. It’s pretty intense if you want to go the full, the full, you know, full experience. And I did it for many, many years.

I just kind of burned. Burned out a little bit. And anyway, my point being that it’s interesting to me because as I dive deeper into the occult and your, your very good description of the architecture of the system and the tactics they use, I always end up researching how they are interested in the occult and Gnosticism and things like that and the simulation world and, and, and it. For, for me, it further, it further deepens me in, into my Christian faith background. I’m not saying it makes me a better Christian, that’s for sure. I got my own problems. But the, but, but the more I look at it, the more I find myself being like, oh man, like, Christianity must be real. Like, they have such a beef with it. Like Aleister Crowley and Jack Parsons. Like, they wouldn’t stop talking about it. It was like, it was like their version of their Trump derangement syndrome. Like it’s just lived in their head constantly.

And, and I, for me, I just, I don’t know, I just wonder how that that fits when, when, when you re. When you research all this stuff. Because from what I guess you didn’t really.

Prior to 2020, I’m guessing you didn’t really read into the occult much.

[00:34:12] Speaker A: No, I mean, yeah, no. And I mean I was, I was a, like yoga teacher and I taught like a partner acrobatics and all of them were into like love and light. I mean, it was all New age.

[00:34:25] Speaker B: And I like, I like a lot of that. That’s where my problem lies is I like a lot of that New age psycho bab because it makes me feel good. And ultimately I go, I can’t deny it. You know what I mean?

[00:34:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Who can argue with love and light? I mean, except when you read the world Invocation Day prayer. And this always creeps me out. I always talk about it because it creeps me out so much. But at the end of it, it says to seal the door where evil dwells. Like, whoa, whoa, which side are we locking the door? Like, they don’t specify.

[00:34:58] Speaker B: That is proof.

[00:34:59] Speaker A: So, yeah, no, for me, I mean, it definitely.

I, I’m definitely not an atheist. And there’s no way you could be reading all this. I, I shouldn’t speak for others, but there’s no way I could be after reading all this stuff. There’s just no way.

They are very, you know, adamantly opposed to any monotheistic religion. So it’s really all the Abrahamic faiths, but particularly traditional Judaism and Christianity. Madame Blavatsky talks about it all the time. Time. She always says how she’s diametrically opposed to Christianity and traditional Judaism. Same with Alice Bailey.

Alice Bailey actually talks about, you know, her whole plan in the externalization of the hierarchy. And you know, one of this, in the section 4 of the Externalization of the hierarchy where she starts to map out this plan. She talked about how the Jews have to be eradicated. That is part of the plan because otherwise they can’t achieve the rest of their goals. When creating the syncretic religion, which is.

[00:35:58] Speaker B: That, which when you say the syncretic religion, you’re comparing that to the technological singularity, the newest sphere, the Omega point.

[00:36:05] Speaker A: All those things or I think it underpins it. So we have, you know, and this is where when we do get to like the, the Dark Enlightenment I think is it’s just the right hand path of these more theosophical, spiritualist kind of belief systems that are under. But both of them are steering us towards the singularity. They’re just doing different flavors. So you know, it’s like you can go to an ice cream shop and it’s filled with chemicals and poison, but they’ll give you, you know, whatever flavor you prefer. So you might prefer the strawberry, the vanilla. So you know, either way you’re going to get your, your, your preferred flavor of poison.

And I always use the, because they always do this paltering where they, you know, mix the truths in. And so I use the analogy of the ice cream that’s, you know, not so good for you, but you really wanted. And it’s an ice cream cone, but then they pour on the sprinkles and the sprinkles are the truth. And so you keep licking the sprinkles and like, oh, it must be true, must be true. This is good for me. And before you know it, you’ve eaten the whole hook gripping lie. Hook gripping lie. And that, that is kind of how these operations work. And it’s because they’re matches of deception. You know, I talk about the triple Ds that that’s their trinity that they worship the, I guess you could call them the Luciferians, the Satanists whatever occult flavor it is, but it is, you know, then Christianity, you know, there’s a trinity. There’s a trinity and then their trinity is the. It’s the triple D’s. It’s the. They’re masters of deception. So they deceive, they distort in order to manipulate the truths to get you, to convince you of their lies. And then there’s the division. And this is why I’ve written this. I’m writing this book on the Hegelian dialective because it really is, I think, such a. A tool for them. And it’s an operating system and they use it to divide and conquer. Yep, the.

[00:38:03] Speaker B: And you had a video on your rumble account about the Hegelian Left, right, Building the technocracy.

Is this part of your, your book’s topic and research? And does this all fit into the, the dark Enlightenment stuff?

[00:38:17] Speaker A: Yeah, so yes, I had. In my book, I mean, I’m really trying to lay out, I go through the ancient mystery cults and how their obsession with the unity of opposites for purposes of transcendence.

So, you know, it’s like they don’t see the good and evil has to be integrated in order for. To achieve transcendence. So it’s not separate, it’s a. It’s an integration.

And this, you see this theme throughout most of these ancient mystery cults. And so I lay out a lot of them. I obviously they. I’m sure I’ve missed some, but they all have very similar. I use little G to as an umbrella term for all the Gnostic belief systems. You know, people will argue with me and they’ll say, well, you know, the Hermeticists were arguing with the Gnostics in the first century. I understand that, I know the history. But they still have shared underlying worldviews and they still have shared really, I would call it the architecture, the operating system that drives their practices, their rituals and their belief systems.

So I use little Gnosticism as the umbrella that paved the way for Hegel. And Hegel was immersed in these occult circles. You know, it was actually Fitka who interpreted Kant’s dialectic, which Hegel rejected as being thesis, antithesis, synthesis. And this is what has become plop, the popular, you know, trilectic that people parrot. And it was actually, I don’t know if I’m pronouncing his name properly, but it’s Shally vous who actually coined that term, the, you know, the triad. But it was Ficka’s interpretation of Kant. And that was never said by Hegel at all. Hegel talked about the abstract, negative and concrete. So, but he was very much inspired by people like fica. And FICA was directly immersed in these occult circles of, you know, the Illuminati. You know, people like gtha, they were all kind of in these Illuminati occult circles. So they. He was definitely tied in.

And that, I think that had a huge influence on his belief system. And he himself, Hagel, who was actually very influential on the Dark Enlightenment. But Hagel himself talks about how my, my whole thesis is that it is a Sapian language that, you know, it’s written for the initiated to interpret the esoteric messages. And then he has an exoteric veneer. And the exoteric veneer, he’s, you know, trying to present it as being a very rational philosophy, very intellectual and academic. But he himself. And of course, this is in German, but the. I’m. I’m telling you the translation as I understand it and I’ve read it, but he says that, you know, it’s about the spirit of Geist, right? Guy says that the world sphere is progressing towards the rational absolute. However, when you read him, the rational absolute sounds intellectual and academic and logical. Right, Mechanistic. But when you read him, he himself says that rational is speculative. And then he says speculative is no different than mystical.

So he is telling you that this is a mystical belief system, that that is what he is teaching you. And these are esoteric. Eric. Writing. And so I. Yeah, so in my book, I laid that out. And then I talk about some more current kind of examples to bring and why it’s relevant today and how social engineers use it to divide and conquer.

[00:41:55] Speaker B: Do you have any good examples that off top of your head you could, you could spit at us here?

[00:42:00] Speaker A: Well, the example in my video is the Dark Enlightenment versus Game B.

But.

[00:42:05] Speaker B: Okay, I don’t know what Game B is.

[00:42:07] Speaker A: Okay, I can tell you. But I can also give you a more like, simple kind of example. I mean, people could just think about the left and the right. Right, the, you know, politically left and right, they’re often used to pit against each other. We always hear about the pendulum’s going to swing. What happens when the pendulum swings? They move the Overton window.

You know, great example. I talk about the medical freedom movement. So if you notice, in the medical freedom movement, we had all these people who were traditionally not in favor of certain things being put into their bodies. And historically, a lot of these people came from the left, politically right around the political left, Right. They were The Crunchy Moms and the, you know, they were anti establishment and they were holistic and they identified as left leaning. And suddenly they got slapped with a right wing banner. They were either conservatives or Republicans or libertarians. And a lot of them actually came out and said, we’re kind of confused. You know, like we, our views politically haven’t changed. But I guess I’m right wing now. You know, like now I have to vote right wing or whatever it was. But that’s how they shifted the Overton Window. I have a theory that a lot of this was actually done this, you know, speaking of the occult groups, I actually think a lot of this was done through the Knights of Malta, who were the, originally the Knights of Hospitality Year. And even today the Knights of Malta, their exoter messaging is that they do medical charity and I’m sure they do do some.

But, you know, if, you know the history of the Knights of Malta, they’re kind of like the, I would say the left of the left hand path of the Knights of the Templar, who tend to be the more militaristic order.

So, you know, again, the, the mommy and daddy issues. Right. The, the right wing tend to be the more patriarchal, more authoritarian, disciplinary, and the left tend to be the Divine Mother leading with more emotionality, more spiritual in, you know, belief system or at least what they lead with.

And so, but I think that they were instrumental in infiltrating and using that movement to shift the Overton Window. And another great example which also does leave us, lead us towards the Dark Enlightenment, is that we had, a year ago, you had people on the right who would never have dreamed of buying an electric vehicle. Right. Because they, you know, they’re, the whole climate crisis is a scam and this is all, you know, Al Gore nonsense and this is just for left wing idiots. I’m not saying that, but, you know, that’s how they think or that’s the kind of what you hear. And, but now because Elon Musk is part of the Trump administration, you have all these people who would never have dreamed of buying an electric vehicle running out to buy Teslas.

Right, right.

[00:44:57] Speaker B: That, that, that is a great example. And that’s, it’s funny to me because I, I never really had an interest like I, I do, I don’t know that I buy into every component of the climate change stuff, but like my, my college background is science, so I, I lean towards it and I’m like, I kind of think this could be happening. Like we should be, we should take Take care of the planet. But then I’m also, I see the people involved in it. I’m like, yeah, but I don’t really trust a lot of the people and I think they want to make this a control system in the end and monitor our usage. And this is going to be a way for the elites to do what they want to do and fly in private jets and the pores can all just kind of suffer and you don’t get to go see anything. And it’s interesting because I don’t remember what year around maybe 20, I don’t know, 18. Michael Moore of all people made a documentary about how, how the renewables movement was really not that healthy for the planet, for, you know, lack of a better term because like, you know, they gotta get the lithium and they got to dig out the batteries and then like there’s all this carbon footprint that they pretend doesn’t exist. But like then you got to make the electricity, you know. And back then I was like, oh, I’m not getting an electric car. And then recently a buddy of mine, mine, he, he sold his cyber truck and he told me, because he’s also part of, I’m, I’m part of the sort of granola mom thing. Like I’ve been a granola mom for many, many years and so is he. In fact, he was the first one that many years ago laid it on me the idea of, of how he was very anti, you know, stabby of the thing that we’re talking about. And he was telling me he sold a cybertruck because of, of the, the, he’s like, well yeah, like all these EMF waves come off the batteries and the motors and you’re just sitting on top of all these. And I was like, well that makes, I’m an electrical engineer by, by through schooling. But like that makes all the sense in the world. I never even thought about that. So like I’m anti electric car for that reason. But I know what you mean because all these sort of left, right shifts have happened and it’s frustrating because I do think there, there is some kind of Hegelian thing going on there because it’s, it does seem very psyopy and, and I, and it’s just frustrating that people can’t be a little more like independent minded about things and not like all of a sudden have to sort of like, let me segue because I know we’re running out of time because I want to segue into dark enlightenment and, and part of the, the fears that I have about the Dark Enlightenment. And I want to hear your take on the Dark Enlightenment.

But my fear is like how some people are scared of a, a communist dictator. I’m scared of an authoritarian dictator as well. And I feel like that’s where the dark Enlightenment takes us to the CEO king there. You know, this neocameralism idea. And it’s shocking to me to see so many people who I would consider, you know, conservatives obviously like Republicans that, that vote Republican who are very much like small government. They, they seem like they’re very anti authoritarian in the sense that like they don’t want the government interfering with their lives at all. And I, I actually that’s the part of me that’s like, yeah, I’m with that. I get that.

But now they’re sort of rooting on for this sort of like ruling with an iron fist element that’s very dark enlightenment. And I’m like, I, I don’t know where this goes, but it’s, it’s kind of terrifying to me. What do you think? Where do you want to take that part of the conversation to me too?

[00:48:23] Speaker A: I, I don’t think it goes anywhere good. I, I’m not in favor of tears. Tyranny. I don’t care what flavor of tyranny it is.

I do not want of any kind.

And, but this is what I will say is that the people who are concerned about fascists versus the communists just wait till the technocracy comes. That is going to be like a tyranny that I don’t think people can even fathom. They can’t comprehend what that kind of tyranny looks like.

[00:48:52] Speaker B: And why do you think that? Like what’s. How does that look to you? Like, is that, is that like a movie you’ve seen scene or like what’s the, what’s like a lot of movies?

[00:49:00] Speaker A: Yeah, I like it. Where, where do we start?

I don’t know. The most recent one that I saw was Mickey 17 where he just keeps dying and keeps getting brought back to life. And that was. Yeah, but yeah, there, there’s so many movies that I feel like have been operational preparation of the environment. That would be the militaristic term for what they’re doing. But predictive programming is more colloquially used.

But yeah, I think that they’re.

So when I say the technocracy, obviously this is not a new concept. Is almost a century ago Howard Scott was the leader of Technocracy Inc. And you know, Technocracy Inc. Was out of Columbia University. They were these, you know, very intellectual group and trying to come up with some sort of problem solving to, you know, the economic crash, you know, in the 20s and the, you know, the Depression era. And they were trying to, you. They come up with some sort of solution. And this solution just happens to look a lot like, you know, scientific dictatorship that Bertrand Russell lays out.

[00:50:03] Speaker B: Oh, that’s a Bertrand Russell thing.

[00:50:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I.

That’s exactly what technocracy is. It’s a, it’s a rule by the elites, but they wanted it to be ruled by the experts. Right. It’s ruled by the, the scientific.

Without any kind of human input. It’s just this very mechanistic kind of control.

The thing is that back then, and of course, Elon Musk’s grandfather was head of Technocracy Inc. In Canada from 1936 to 1943. And yes, his grandfather, Josh Heidelman did pass away while Elon was very young, but he was very familiar with his grandfather’s ideas and very immersed in them, very much a proponent of them.

And he keeps talking about how he’s going to implement this technocracy upon Mars. Mars. But I think that, you know, he’s not instituting technocracy on Mars. What he’s doing is creating technocracy here in, in the United States as part of the Trump administration. He’s laying all of the foundation for that.

And what, when you look at what it does back then, I think it was scary enough just as an idea back then, but now you have to the technology to really bring this to fruition. And if people think that government is scary with humans who want power, what happens when you have humans who are coding the smart contracts and, you know, the AI government, which is going to supplant all human governments. And they’ve talked about this. The AI world society talks about it, Elon Musk talks about it, the Dark Enlightenment talks about it.

Each state right now already has a digital government chat, GPT has a government portal, and you have to be a government official to use it. And there’s summits all over in each state where they have these digital governance summits. And so they’re already laying the groundwork for this. And, you know, people are very excited about Doge where I’m all for efficiency, I’m all for transparency, I’m all for getting, eradicating this, you know, ridiculous loaded spending. That’s great. Please, more of that. However, this whole concept that comes straight out of the Dark Enlightenment called rage retirement of all government employees is really what they’re laying the groundwork for that’s what they’re preparing so that they can have it replaced with AI. And if you think, you know, a Project Argyll trained IRS official is scary, what happens when it’s a robot who has no feelings and has just been programmed to execute. And Elon says that by 2040, you know, we’re going to have more robots than human humans. And it is this idea. So I think it’s way scarier because you’re not dealing with humans who have emotions and who have. I have no. See no evidence of any kind of technology having sentience. I know they’re very invested in us believing that because if we get enough people to believe that there is consciousness or sentience from a machine, I think the effect will be very similar to as if it actually did have sentience science. But I see no evidence, you know, no matter how many times you’ve all know, Harari tells us that he’s going to upload our consciousness to the cloud.

I.

They still don’t even know what consciousness is. They have not fully defined it. No matter how many, you know, millions and I don’t know the exact number but you know, copious funds are donated to, you know, the Institute of Noetic Sciences. They still haven’t figured it out. And even Yuval, no, Harari himself contradicts himself saying that we don’t have consciousness, that free will is a thing of the past that doesn’t exist. But he’s going to upload that thing that we don’t have to the cloud because they’re all afraid. And this is where, you know, the occult belief systems tie in because this is all about, you know, this fear of death, this trying to cheat death.

So they have to become their own gods. This is the Gnostic belief system, right? They’re going to become their own gods in order to cheat death and create this, you know, kind of immortality.

Some of them believe it’s actually going to be a post human world. Nick Land, who was very influential on Curtis Yarvin, this dark enlightenment movement, he. I will just say this as somebody who has read a lot of philosophy. You know, Nietzsche famously said they, they muddy the waters to make it seem deep. Curtis Yarvin and Nick Land don’t even do that. I mean this is some of the most garbage kind of writing. It’s not even good like writing, it’s just bad.

[00:54:35] Speaker B: Yeah, there was, there was something about Curtis Yarvin because I, I don’t know if you know, my background. I’ve done deep dive, like maybe A five part series on dark enlightenment. And I’m writing.

[00:54:46] Speaker A: They were great.

[00:54:47] Speaker B: Oh, okay. Okay, good. Yeah. That’s part of the reason I wanted to have you on here because I’m like, you’re smarter with a lot of this stuff than I am, so I want to make. I, I was like, I wanted to kind of, you know, vibe check and make sure I’m not going off the deep end, but. Job.

[00:55:00] Speaker A: Yeah, thanks.

[00:55:01] Speaker B: And, and one of the things, because I, I don’t know how to read their writings through that sort of philosophical critical thinking of seeing where their, their logical fallacies are and where their arguments fall apart. But one thing that stuck out to me is Curtis Yarvin was, you know, as part of this whole thing of tearing down the cathedral and getting, getting rid of all of our constitutional rights, which include free speech.

[00:55:26] Speaker A: Speech, yes.

[00:55:27] Speaker B: He says, well, we got to get rid of free speech. And I’m like, well dude, like your ideas wouldn’t be allowed on the Internet then. So how does that fit into your philosophy of how great this is going to be? You know what I mean? Like so, so I do know what you’re saying. That’s the only example I could think of.

[00:55:42] Speaker A: But. Well, he’s going to be the CEO of the Go Corp. So you just have to follow him. It doesn’t matter. His ideas are trash because he’s the, he’s the king. He’s the techno king.

[00:55:52] Speaker B: Yeah.

[00:55:53] Speaker A: And so you have this.

It is a very authoritarian. They do believe it. They want to revive the, that it’s essentially a techno neo feudal system where you know, he talks about how we should be run but like corporations, that the CEO is going to be the monarch and so you’re going to have a complete like dictatorship. And that he even says that, that Americans need to get, get over their fear of dictators because we, that’s really the best system. We need to have a dictatorship.

Um, but now you. When you have technology, when you have technology that’s being programmed to control. I, I don’t think people have any concept of how truly dystopian this could get. And then so yeah, so you have. When I, when I said you have this kind of dialectic between the game B and the. I’ll very briefly kind of give you a rundown of game B because it’s kind of a. It’s a long dive and it’s not new. Knew it was I. That I had a theory that it was seeded by the intellectual dark web as an influence operation to prepare the, the ground for game B. And Andrew Cohen actually has an article on his manifest nirvana that pretty much says that he didn’t use the words operation, influence, influence, operation. Sorry, didn’t use those words. That’s my words. However, he pretty much says that, that they’re, you know, preparing the landscape. And it was back in 2011, Jim Rudd, who is the chairman of a Santa Fe Institute, he had met Jordan hall, who is doing the circuit right now. We see another. Just to throw a little monkey wrench in here, and I’m working on a substack on this. We see a lot of what I call Christianese being used as kind of an umbrella to lure people. I think it’s very deceptive. But we see this, that we see in dark enlightenment, right? Peter Thiel claims he’s a Christian and that this, you know, kind of technocratic movement, he doesn’t call it that, but, you know, he says it’s all very Christian. And I don’t know how the two are commensurate at all, but he, that that is what he says. And then so he’s, you know, leading with Christianity as the umbrella to which I don’t think is Christian at all, but that’s, you know, the Christianese that he’s putting on top of it. Then you have like Ark alliance for Responsible Citizenship, which is also doing that, that as a way to, you know, he says that it’s a, a conservative counter to the World Economic Forum. However, the funding comes like, pretty much directly out of the clients of the World Economic Forum called Legatum. I have a whole video tying the financial ties there.

But they’re also using kind of this Christian umbrella, although a lot of it looks like more Christ consciousness, the theosophy, rather than true Christianity. And I mean, Jordan Peterson, who’s helming this is a Jungian. Jung was a Mithrian. That is, you know, Jung actually had dreams of like, overthrowing Christianity. He had a dream that he was the, like theus, I don’t know, the lion head of, you know, the Mithran religion, which is essentially like a Satanic figure. And uh, he dreamt that, you know, he would overthrow Christianity. And we see echoes of this with Jordan Peterson talking about, uh, you should become, become the monster and incorporate it, right? This is this very kind of Mithrian concept, Kabbalistic also of, you know, integrating your, your shadow, integrating dark so you can transcend.

So there we have that. And then we have this with Game B where Jordan hall has recently converted to Christianity. He’s talking about he, at his and we see overlaps because there’s the network state and Peter Thiel who has dark enlightenment adjacent. Right. But he’s also in this game B space and there was a he, there’s this startup network with startup cities, foundations I think it’s called. I’ll have to look up exactly what it is. But it’s being held at Prospera which is Peter Thiel’s Bitcoin cities in Honduras. And the subsidiary of that is called Vitalia. But they’ve changed the name. They’re always changing their names. It’s very important to understand.

But it’s called now Infinita. But when it was Vitalia you’d open the website and it would say a city come build a city where death is optional.

And now it’s called Infinita and it’s, you know they have all these buzzwords like longevity which is really kind of code for transhumanism.

But he did a speech there four years ago talking about game B network states. And now he did a much shorter one at this in Prospera talking about network states. And then he talks about about liturgy and he’s essentially saying that liturgy should build communitarianism.

I’m pretty sure that’s not what liturgy is about.

But communitarianism is this like very technological kind of. It encompasses everything with law, technology.

It’s you know, the network state kind of concepts, monetary systems.

And so he talks about that. But he also did this show of Game B Christianity. He also did another one one where he says that they were talking about how like Ephesians 4 talks about collective.

Collective cognition which I’m pretty sure it does not.

But this is all gearing us towards the noosphere concept. And in game B they talk about collective intelligence. So this is again this noosphere concept. So both of them are cre are steering us toward both Game B and the dark and light in very different ways. They’re giving us, you know one is more of a top down authoritarian gov corp. Right? They’re gonna. But both of them are talking about dissolutions of nation state, geographical nation states in favor of some sort of technological system control system. And one is advocating for centralized.

[01:01:59] Speaker B: Of.

[01:01:59] Speaker A: The information institutions would lead to. It would be the conduit for the world brain. And back then that was the academic institutions. Today what are the information institutions? They’re the Internet technology and Srinivasan Balaji Srinivasan who wrote the book on the network State actually says that he, he doesn’t talk about the world brain but he talks about how it will decentralize at first and later be re centralized. And so he even admits that that is the purpose, that that’s the idea of this decentralization. It has to be in order for the interoperability to function. So the, the game B people are more like, a lot of them are disciples of people like Barbara Marx Hubbard, who was, you know, an intellectual disciple of Teilhard Chardain who talks about the noosphere. And she’s, she was one of the leaders of the center of a conscious evolution funded by the Rockefellers. There’s a lot of Rockefeller funding in both sides actually, which is typically the name of the game. Right. That hectic.

[01:03:03] Speaker B: And this goes back to the, the where we, where we were talking about where I get confused because I’m like, it seems like there’s a capitalism versus Communism thing and you’re kind of saying it’s. And it is kind of like a. I took a course on politics in America in college and we, we had this whole section about how lobbyists and industries will support both sides, both candidates because like they don’t care who gets in. They want to make sure they’re, they’re, they get their favors repaid. Right. And it’s kind of like it sounds similar to what you’re talking about.

[01:03:38] Speaker A: Yeah, that’s a very honest teacher. Yeah, that’s, that’s right. That it’s not, it’s about out serving their interests. So I think that, you know, right now what we’re seeing is a lot of these dark enlightenment figures are surrounding Trump and we have kind of two camps. And I think J.D. vance is a convergence of these two. So you’ve got these like, you know, Theo Bros, the, the Neo Integralists and JD Vance would fall into that category. And then you’ve got the tech oligarch Rose.

And there a lot of them are dark and light enlightenment figures. And the two of them are kind of converging, which a lot of people seem confused by that. Well, I don’t understand. How is this, you know, compensurate with Christianity? And why are these two, you know, washing each other’s hands, so to speak? Why are they playing ball with each other? And I think it’s operational because the Neo Integralists are trying to eradicate the First Amendment, which explicitly says that they’re, you know, that religion is separate from the state.

Right. There’s freedom of religion.

It’s not freedom from religion, it’s freedom of religion.

So that is part of the First Amendment and is first for reason.

Right.

So there is a, a group that is really trying to create a theocratic movement. And I would argue those, they’re not all new in tech list, but certainly Vance is and you know, they’re all kind of coalescing around Trump. And then you’ve got the people who want to create this gov corp and do away with government altogether so that they can put their gov corp in power, privatize everything so that they can put these tech oligarch, you know, billionaires in power.

And I think that the two philosophies work very well together. They both also share underpinnings of like things like eugenics, you know, racism, this idea that, you know, like kind of a white supremacy type of philosophy. Nick Land, dark Enlightenment accelerationist figure, talks about how he has a whole article on hyper racism. He says we have to move beyond racism. And he’s essentially advocating what Elon Musk does, which is this genetic selection action for positive eugenics. Right. And that’s. Yeah, right. That we’re. And that’s what Elon Musk is doing. And I with, you know, his. Is he on 14 kids that are mostly done, you know, in test tubes?

[01:06:11] Speaker B: 14 we know about.

[01:06:13] Speaker A: Yeah, right. Yeah.

But he’s very much in favor, you know, a lot of people are championing that he’s a natalist and that he’s pro, you know, building families and having children. However, they’re not necessarily looking at, at the fact that he’s laying the groundwork for this transhuman future where children, it doesn’t matter if children are. He’s dehumanizing the whole procreation process in favor of. And desensitizing people.

I shouldn’t say in favor of, but by his example. In favor of. But he’s desensitizing people to, you know, ectolife pods where humans are literally like women are, are no longer needed because, because you can have an out of body womb.

That’s really the, where they’re, that’s what they’re desensitizing people to. This Dark Enlightenment is very dark. I think that the, this Dark Maga movement is a, is a nod to the Dark Enlightenment. You know, when they talk about the Golden Age, I’m not so sure that that’s not, you know, an occult reference. And I, I don’t know how golden it’s going to be for the masses.

These are really, they’re ideologies that come from thinkers like Heidegger, Hegel, you know, Julius Evola, Herman Hopp. These are not, these are not friends of liberty. They’re not friends of free will in a biblical sense of free will.

They’re much more. When they talk about freedom, I think it’s like freedom as a collective end.

So very much like in the corral the Crowley and kind of the do without will built, you know, or Nietzsche and will to power. It’s as an end, it’s a radical freedom that is also very collectivist. It’s where the. We march towards this omega point or as Hegel would say, the, you know, the Geist spirals towards the world.

Rational, absolute. And that’s the end. And Hegel himself says that humans can have no freedom without complete subservience to the state. The state is God, of course. That’s the. Yeah.

[01:08:13] Speaker B: Oh my gosh. Well, sorry. I feel a lot, I feel like a lot darker now than before.

Okay, so I, I know our time is short. We gotta go. But I’m gonna put a link in the show notes to. Because I’m gonna watch this video too on your rumble with the, the Hegelian left right dialect and the Game B stuff because I, I feel like you’re unwrapping a whole nother element of this dark enlightenment that I, I’m not even looking at right now. So where else, where else can I can our listeners get more of your work, your information? Where, where should we send them? What link should I put in the show notes?

[01:08:51] Speaker A: So if people want to start with Game B, I would tell them I’ve done I don’t know how many hours on this topic but. And I am going to do some written pieces. I just haven’t had time to do the, you know, articles on it. I will do some write ups but I did a three and a half hour. I know it’s a lot. I actually had AI do a like half an hour summary of it. So for people who want just the Cliff Notes version but the on Game B and it was a presentation so people can find that that might be a good kind of comprehensive overview of Game B. But I, you know, and then they can back up and start with the one I did on Brett Weinstein when he did his speech to the right rescue the Republic. And he talks about how it’s not a republic if we can keep it, it’s a republic if we can Phoenix it.

[01:09:39] Speaker B: And are you talking about. Is that the dude who was like during the pandemic was all over the Joe Rogan spheres talking about that stuff?

[01:09:50] Speaker A: Yes.

[01:09:51] Speaker B: Really? That guy, that guy might be involved with this too?

[01:09:54] Speaker A: Well, that guy is one on the ground floor. He was at the Stanton meetings with Jim Ran Rudd as the residential evolutionary biologist. Part of. They were creating something called the Emancipation Party, which was very like Bernie Sanders kind of platform. So both the game be and the dark enlightened enlightenment figures are very much in favor of a UBI when you really scratch beneath the surface. That’s why I say it’s about flavors. So with the sensibilities, with the mommy issues or the daddy issue. But either way, they’re both advocating for elitist control by technology, pro elite programming technology to control you. And they all have the same kind of, you know, there’s, there’s nuanced differences, but. Yeah. And yes, this is Brett Weinstein who he talks about phoenixing the Republic and anybody who’s familiar with the, you know, certainly there’s Operation Phoenix with CIA. There’s the Tavistock Operation Phoenix. There’s the rose Crucian symbol of the Phoenix.

We, you know, this is where we got the, the slogan that they used in the CIA Operation Phoenix. We have to burn the village to build the village. Right. I think this is what the great reset is. We have to tear it down to build back better, you know, burn it down first.

So the Phoenix definitely has a lot of kind of occult messaging and symbolism, I think. And that’s. I go through that and. Yeah. And talk about. About how he, he was on the ground floor building this Game B concept. But yes, the Game B tends to appeal more to the left kind of sensibilities there.

A lot of them are disciples of people like Barbara Marks Hubbard, the theosophical kind of vein. There’s a. So yeah, I would tell people to go look into that. I’ve done a lot of episodes on that. Then of course they can.

I. I break down some of the philosophical concepts in my substack article. Goals.

Yeah, I don’t know. It’s. It’s a lot. Sorry. It’s a lot to try to pack in.

[01:11:49] Speaker B: Yeah. This is. Wow, this is fascinating. Okay, then I’m going to link to. Are there any social medias you prefer to use that you want me to post?

[01:11:58] Speaker A: Sure. I mean, I, I’m pretty active on Twitter, although I, I’ve been a little bit less active because it takes up so much time and it’s a. You know, there’s so much edge of prop on there.

But, you know, it’s.

But yeah, I’m very, I am definitely active there people. I’m active on my sub stack. Reachable there and then my for people, because I’m so censored, but for people who are interested in more of like the fitness, health, wellness kind of space, I do a lot of that on my Instagram, so.

[01:12:29] Speaker B: Okay, great. Okay, cool. I’ll post all those. Hey, that. This was fascinating. I. I can’t wait. Do you know when that book is going to come. Come out that you’re writing?

[01:12:38] Speaker A: Yes. So I’m hoping this summer I’m gonna.

[01:12:41] Speaker B: Oh, wow.

[01:12:42] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah, so I’m.

This month I’m. I’ll still be uploading, but I’m gonna take a break from recording for this next month and try and finish this book up. I’m probably just gonna self publish it. So I would say.

I want to say June, but probably July is one who will be more realistic that I’ll.

[01:13:02] Speaker B: Okay.

[01:13:02] Speaker A: Awesome.

[01:13:03] Speaker B: Awesome. I look, I look forward to it. That’s. That’s great. You’re. You’re an expert on these things and I appreciate you taking the time to talk to our audience. Appreciate it.

[01:13:11] Speaker A: Yeah. Thank you so much.

[01:13:14] Speaker B: Fascinating stuff. I can’t wait for her book to come out. So check out Courtney Taylor’s podcast and her social medias. I’ll put links in the show notes for a couple of her rumble videos and her, her sub stack and her whole link tree where you can catch up with her on all the socials, you know, Twitter and Instagram and all that. But yeah, special thanks to Courtney Taylor. She’s doing some great research, so check her out for more information. Thank you for listening to the show. Till next time, stay positive.

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