Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 conspiracy theories

 

Not more than four months since the Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 mysteriously disappeared yet another flight has gone awry. This one, MH17, was en route from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur when it crashed near the Russia-Ukraine border in Snizhne. Of course, you’ll easily recognize that Ukraine was also part of the news frenzy in the past few months when Russia got intertwined with their affairs, but there’s more on that later.

The website Express.co.uk reported that Russia shot down MH17 via a Surface to Air Missile (SAM), here’s a screenshot (in case they retract the report…):

 

IlluminatiWatcherDotCom MH17 Conspiracy

 

 

RTE is reporting that the plane went down in high action area of the Ukraine/Russia conflict; perhaps explaining why a SAM might have hit (potentially as an accident?…):

The Interfax report said the plane came down 50km short of entering Russian airspace.

It “began to drop, afterwards it was found burning on the ground on Ukrainian territory,” the unnamed source said.

The plane appeared to have come down in a region of military action where Ukrainian government forces are battling pro-Russian separatists.

A separate unnamed source in the Ukrainian security apparatus, quoted by Interfax, said the plane disappeared from radar at a height of 10,000 metres after which it came down near the town of Shakhtyorsk.

There are unconfirmed reports from the Ukrainian interior ministry that the airliner was shot down by a Buk ground-to-air missile.

All of this happened in the same area of Ukraine, just one day after Russia was blamed for shooting down a Ukranian fighter (from RT):

Kiev’s accusations that Russia shot down a Ukrainian Su-25 fighter jet are “absurd,” the Russian Ministry of Defense said.

“This is absurd, like all previous accusations from Kiev officials concerning Russia’s Ministry of Defense,” a ministerial official told journalists on Thursday.

Kiev has accused Russia of downing its Su-25 fighter jet on June 16. Andrey Lysenko, spokesman of the Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council, said a Russian military jet shot down a plane that was fulfilling a military operation over the east of Ukraine at 19:00 local time. Earlier Kiev blamed the attack on self-defense forces.

On Wednesday, self-defense forces claimed they had shot down two of the Ukrainian Air Force Su-25 fighter jets.

CNN is pointing to Ukraine terrorists as the perpetrators, but an aviation expert explains that it doesn’t seem likely:

Reacting to the breaking story, CNN’s Richard Quest, an aviation expert, said that it would “extremely unusual” for an airliner at 32,000 feet to be shot down. From the ground, one could simply look up and tell whether a plane was a commercial aircraft.

“It looks like a commercial aircraft, it squawks a commercial aircraft. So something is absolutely appalling that’s gone on here,” he said.

It goes on to explain that Putin (and Russia) aren’t involved because of his sympathies for the situation:

Russian President Vladimir Putin “expressed deep condolences” to Malaysia’s Prime Minister over the crash, a post Thursday on the Kremlin’s website said. He “asked to pass the most sincere word of condolences and support to families and relatives of (the crash) victims,” the post said.

TIME reports that rebel groups are not claiming responsibility…:

Oleg Tsarev, one of the leaders of the breakaway Donetsk People’s Republic, said the rebels did not shoot the plane down. “We don’t have weapons that can take down a plane from that altitude,” he told TIME, minutes after news of the crash broke.

…although they point out evidence on the contrary later in the article:

But only three weeks ago they had plenty of those weapons. At the end of June, the Russian state media had congratulated the rebels on their latest military acquisition – a set of Russian-made BUK missile launchers seized from a Ukrainian air force base.

The rebels quickly seemed to put their new rockets to work. The downing of Ukrainian military aircraft has become almost commonplace in recent days. An AN-26 military transport plane was shot down on Monday over eastern Ukraine, and the rebel leaders confirmed the same day that they had taken its four crew members hostage after they had ejected to safety. In the two days that followed, another two Ukrainian military aircraft, both of them SU-25 fighter jets, were reportedly shot down by the rebels. And Russian media trumpeted another rebel strike late on Thursday afternoon, claiming that a Ukrainian AN-24 had gone down over the town of Torez.

Reports from various sources (like RT) are claiming there were 280-300 people on board, but at the time of this writing there have been no bodies found:

Residents have reported about finding debris from a plane, which they say could belong to the Malaysian Boeing. They also said no bodies have been seen, RIA Novosti reports.

The bodies have been captured on film, you can see it on the EXPLICIT video **but be forewarned it’s about as graphic as one would expect. ** at LiveLeak

I followed the previous Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 (exhaustively) and concluded that it must’ve been aliens; one of the first conspiracy theories to surface, and until we hear otherwise I’m sticking with it. In that MH370 conspiracy theories post I referenced the fact that the alleged Illuminati might have been involved due to the number 777 being tied in. You’ll notice that this MH17 was also a Boeing 777…

One theory claims that there is numerology at play here because of the occult importance of the number 777. The Malaysia Airlines aircraft flown on Flight MH370 was a Boeing 777, and although some people are mixing up the aircraft model with the flight number, that 777 is the link they are claiming. The 777 stuff is covered on my website with Rihanna’s 777 symbolism.

The documentary featured Rihanna’s tour and all of the journalists and fans who were involved, but I don’t want to focus on that, i want to talk about the 777 being a number important to the Illuminati and esoteric occult groups. The Qabalah book that Madonna, New Agers, and conspiracy theorists always refer to as a source of esoteric knowledge features a book called ’777.’ However, more importantly, occultist and magician Aleister Crowley referenced it in a document he wrote called Liber 777 Vel Prolegoma Symbolica Ad Systemam Sceptico-Mysticae Viae Explicande, Fundamentum Hieroglyphicum Sanctissimorum Scientiae Summae. The ’777′ is apparently important in the title of all of that, and it’s used in some magic rituals that I won’t pretend to understand. If you want more on Crowley and the entertainment industry’s obsession with this OTO order he created, check my Aleister Crowley’s ‘OTO’ Entertainment industry membership post.

777 Crowley

and also the Kabbalah/Crowley connection in entertainment:

And there are the remaining demons that all correspond to the Tree of Life to fill out the shadow “Other Side” of God’s good attributes. These demons were studied by many of the ‘forefathers’ of the occult and dark arts including Aleister Crowley (Liber 777) and Anton LaVey (the Satanic Bible).

We also saw Kendrick Lamar on the 2013 MTV VMAs with the Illuminati symbolism:

777

Here’s a video from Christine Lagarde of the alleged-Illuminati-affiliated International Monetary Fund (IMF) walking through some numerology, 7’s, and 2014. The point is that even professionals at this level talk about this type of stuff; perhaps even projected events this way. Magic involves taking the personal will and shaping the universe around it. Using numbers and symbols helps the practitioner accomplish this. Big ups to MMS for giving me the link on this one:

“7” references:
1:22 – “Now I’m going to test your numerology skills by asking you to think about the magic seven”
1:34 – “Most of you will know that seven is quite a number
2:24 – “2014, you drop the zero, fourteen, two times, seven”
4:08 – “It will mark the 70th anniversary, 70th anniversary, drop the zero, seven, of the Bretton Woods Conference that actually gave birth to the IMF” (7 + 0 = 7)
4:22 – “And it will be the 25th anniversary of the fall of the berlin wall, 25th..” (2 + 5 = 7)
4:38 – “It will also mark the 7th anniversary of the financial market jietters”
5:08 – “After those seven miserable years, weak and fragile”
5:14 – “We have seven strong years”
5:43 – “Now I don’t know if the G7 will have anything to do with it” (G is also the 7th letter of the alphabet)

“2014” references:
1:18 – “The global economy and what we should expect for 2014″
2:19 – “So if we think about 2014″
2:24 – “2014, you drop the zero, fourteen, two times, seven”
3:54 – “So 2014 will be a milestone and hopefully a magic year in may respects”
5:05 – “So my hope and my wish for 2014″

 

 

Malaysia Airlines has a fleet with several models of aircraft, so it’s not too far fetched that I find this odd they were both 777s. From USAToday:

Malaysia Airlines’ fleet of 88 aircraft includes Boeing 747-400, 777-200ER, 737-800 and 737-400, as well as Airbus A330-300, A330-200 and its flagship A380-800.

Boston.com posted up some whoppers that are floating around which includes “planted” passports, a theory that there was an attempt to take down a flight Putin was in around the same day/time, but most interesting was the theory that this is in fact the same plane that disappeared back in March (MH370). Perhaps the aliens took it, kept it for several months, and now they’re dropping it back off but the governments want to cover it up and take out the witnesses. Yea, I suppose that’s dumb too but good idea.

Of course we’ve got the numbers game that is inevitable in any tragedy, (although interesting…). IBTimes posted up some number play from a Twitterer:

MH17 Twitter Numerology

This echoes what commenter ‘anonym’ posted below as well:

1st flew: 17 july 1997
Last flew : 17 july 2014

Service : 17 years

And we can add the claim (that I haven’t been able to substantiate yet, I saw they lost contact at 1415 GMT) that it went down at 1717 GMT.

A Dutch man named Cor Pan was apparently on the aircraft and took a photo of it, uploaded it to Facebook, and put the message “This is what it looks like in case it goes down” on it. Express.co.uk has the translations:

He shared the picture with the eerie caption: “This is what it looks like in case it goes down”.

He was referring to Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 which disappeared on March   8 during a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing without a trace.

His Facebook page has been flooded with more than a hundred people paying tribute to the man who is believed to have died on flight MH17.

User Eric Buijs posted: “Rest in peace old friend”.

Cindy Visscher wrote: “Dear Cor rest in peace”.

While Saul Jonk added: “Goosebumps …. rest in peace COR. unimaginable”.

MH17 Cor Pan Facebook

 

An aviation expert is claiming that the MH17 flight path was far off course from where it should’ve been, even though Malaysia Airlines is claiming otherwise. Here’s Telegraph:

The crashed MH17 flight took a route 300 miles to the north of its usual path, an aviation expert has said.

Robert Mark, a commercial pilot who edits Aviation International News Safety magazine, said that most Malaysia Airlines flights from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur normally travelled along a route significantly further south than the plane which crashed.

Malaysia Airlines has insisted its plane travelled on an “approved route” used by many other carriers.

But Mr Mark said: “I can only tell you as a commercial pilot myself that if we had been routed that way, with what’s been going on in the Ukraine and the Russian border over the last few weeks and months, I would never have accepted that route.

“And the flight today tracked very, very much further north into the Ukraine than the other previous flights did … there were MH17 versions that were 300 miles south of where this one was.”

Records of recent MH17 flights on the FlightAware appear to bear out Mr Mark’s claim, with earlier flights significantly further south than the flight that crashed.

Further down in the article you can see the real motivation for MA to fly through the dangerous area:

Norman Shanks, a former head of group security at the BAA airports group, said: “Malaysia Airlines, like a number of other carriers, has been continuing to use it because it is a shorter route, which means less fuel and therefore less money.”

Commenter ‘onlyme’ points out that the short-lived show The Event (cancelled in 2011 one year after the pilot aired) featured plots involving aliens and vortexes swallowing up commercial airlines, only to later spit them out and have them crash with no survivors.

Here’s a screenshot of the portal/vortex eating the airplane from the first episode, and a copy of the show from Hulu below it (it’s also on Netflix BTW):

 

IlluminatiWatcherDotCom The Event airplane portal MH370 MH17

 

 

In the second episode of the first season, they airplane comes out of the portal and crashes in Arizona. Upon further inspection, they find everyone is dead (although they aren’t really dead; it’s part of the plot). The point is, it’s eery predictive programming on the part of the entertainment industry if you want to believe the unbelievable conspiracy that this is in fact the same plane as MH370:

 

IlluminatiWatcherDotCom The Event airplane portal MH370 MH17 landing

IlluminatiWatcherDotCom The Event airplane portal MH370 MH17 survivors

Another strange coincidence is that on July 15th, 2014 (just two days before MH17) CNN aired a special on the flight TWA800 that was shot down by a missile. TWA800 was shot down on July 17th, 1996, making it 18 years to the exact date until MH17 would be shot down by a missile. Hundreds of witnesses claimed to have seen the missile shoot it down, but the government investigation claimed a fuel tank explosion caused it.

VICE released a video that has a statement from the Ukrainian Minister of Defense and he makes some statements that could support the theory floating around that this is a false flag event used to get the international community involved in the Ukraine/Russia battle to start World War 3. Take a look and hear him use certain phrases (e.g. he pointed out there were EU and US victims, Russia supports international terrorism, etc. all key terms used). Be warned it’s graphic and shows dead bodies:

 

 

Another theory floating around is that the plane was taken down in order to cover-up the true origins of the HIV/AIDS virus. The rationale for this is the number of significant AIDS researchers on the aircraft (a tally that initially was stated at 100 but has recently dropped to 7). Here’s Guardian:

Organisers of the international Aids conference that starts in Melbourne this weekend have been able to confirm the names of seven delegates killed when Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down over Ukraine on Thursday.

That total is much lower than the figure of 100 initially suggested as having been on the Boeing 777.

I find this rationale/theory unreliable,  because I don’t necessarily think the HIV/AIDS conspiracy is true. Ironically, in Operation INFEKTION, the Soviets spread this disinformation to breakdown American credibility, so we’ve sort of come Cold War-full circle. The source of the Soviet claim is that we cooked up the virus at Fort Detrick, MD; a place known for bio weaponry. Here’s a decent sum up on the theory from TIME:

Since the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention first reported the HIV/AIDS epidemic in 1981, rumors have persisted that the deadly virus was created by the CIA to wipe out homosexuals and African Americans. Even today, the conspiracy theory has a number of high-profile believers. South African President Thabo Mbeki once touted the theory, disputing scientific claims that the virus originated in Africa and accusing the U.S. government of manufacturing the disease in military labs. When she won the Nobel Peace Prize, Kenyan ecologist Wangari Maathai used the international spotlight to support that theory as well. Others insist that the government deliberately injected gay men with the virus during 1978 hepatitis-B experiments in New York, San Francisco and Los Angeles. Still others point to Richard Nixon, who combined the U.S. Army’s biowarfare department with the National Cancer Institute in 1971. Though the co-discoverers of HIV — Dr. Robert Gallo of the National Cancer Institute and Dr. Luc Montagnier of the Pasteur Institute in Paris — don’t agree on its origins, most members of the scientific community believe the virus jumped from monkeys to humans some time during the 1930s.

Another theory floating around is that the victims’ bodies were found with their blood drained and in an advanced state of decomposition. Of course, the victim’s families can easily debunk this, but nonetheless it’s a conspiracy so I’m posting it. Here’s HuffingtonPost with more:

The most bizarre conspiracy theory surrounding the recent downing of a Malaysian airliner over Ukraine comes from a leading pro-Russian separatist, Igor Girkin.

Relying on second-hand information, Girkin asserted that many of the passengers from the crash had already been dead before the plane had even taken off. His underlings had reported to him that the bodies were badly decomposed and drained of blood. This, of course, was news to all the families of the victims who’d seen off their loved ones at the airport in Amsterdam.

The separatists have denied responsibility for shooting down the plane and have pinned the crime instead on the Ukrainian government. Until recently, the rebels restricted access to the crash scene and the bodies, which gave them ample opportunities to tamper with the evidence — such as sawing the cockpit in half and lugging away pieces of the plane. Now that the bodies are in the hands of outside investigators, presumably the rebels have moved on to more plausible exculpatory explanations.

So we can see a lot of buggery and weirdness going, let’s see if any dots connect over the next few days weeks.

MH17

 

Here’s an image of the BUK SAMs:

 

BUK SAM

 

And here’s the video making the rounds of the smoke from the reported crash site:

 

 

Do you think HP Lovecraft, True Detective, Crowley, Hunger Games and the Necronomicon could all be tied into these missing flights? Check out this post on Hunger Games Illuminati symbolism and learn more…

Take it to one more level and you can see there is a Malaysian government-owned luxury hotel called Carcosa Seri Negara (note that True Detective used the same exact word in the storyline; “Carcosa”). This was built by Sir Frank Swettenham, who named it after The King in Yellow. Could this be connected to the missing Malaysian flights?… Seems strange but damn, we just connected Hunger Games, True Detective, Aleister Crowley, and HP Lovecraft, so anything is possible.

 

Stay tuned and I’ll update this post as it unfolds and RIP to all the victims and families…

Read more on missing aircraft conspiracies in: AirAsia Flight QZ8501: The Black Hand of the Illuminati & other conspiracy theories

And check out my book A Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory: The Illuminati, Ancient Aliens and Pop Culture for more behind that All Seeing Eye, pyramids, and general Illuminati symbolism and its purpose:

‘A Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory: The Illuminati, Ancient Aliens, and Pop Culture’ is a culmination project of several years of research and taking notes on taboo and fringe subjects from various theorists, philosophies, and academic walks of life. I’m a website publisher for conspiracy theories and the exposure that I’ve had to these topics gives me a fresh perspective and clarity of these sometimes confusing and offensive topics. I focus a lot of the material on the philosophy of David Icke, so if you wanted an independent third party assessment on why he thinks reptilian shape shifters control our planet (and why he could be correct); this is the book for you!

I explore links between all of the Illuminati conspiracy theories, the music, film, and entertainment industry’s infiltration, and brainwashing symbolism found in all of these venues (e.g. the All Seeing Eye, pyramids, etc.). Ancient cultures, Nazis and occult worship still play a key role in today’s control system, and I provide insight into these topics, including a never before released review of the controversial and banned documentary of Princess Diana’s murder Unlawful Killing. This film has never been released and I was able to watch a copy of it and detail its findings in this book.

More original theories are presented such as Rihanna’s occult origins, red dragons and their symbolism, and the Illuminati eugenics program being deployed through a transhuman robotic agenda. I also explain how David Icke’s theories of the Moon Matrix and Saturn Worship operate to manipulate us into a false reality.

I wrap the book up with a conclusion of what actually works out of all this mess. It includes an assessment of David Icke’s reptilian shape shifters explained through a legitimate cognitive style model theory in academia called ‘Adaption-Innovation’ theory.

 

 

 

 

 

Comments

  1. anonym says

    Mh17:

    1st flew: 17 july 1997
    Last flew : 17 july 2014

    Service : 17 years

    What a coincidence….are there a #17 in illuminati that r important to tell their members?

  2. Parooski says

    I find it interesting that no names have been released on either flights from the Malaysia Airline crashes. I want names and then we can link conspiracy with facts of evidence.

  3. onlyme says

    In relation to the missing plane and your aliens theory I wondered if you have ever seen a show called ” the event”? If you have I apologize for my naivity but if you havent I recommend you take a look. It hits your alien theory right on the head with missing commercial airlines.

      • Sam says

        There was a no fly zone at a certain altitude, they didn’t think the people that shot the plane down had that the weapons capable of shooting a plane at 33’000 feet

        • Wedge Antilles says

          It is a WAR ZOne including fighter planes, which means that commercial planes can easily be shot down.

    • Yash Raj Singh says

      Excuse me mam.
      can you tell me more briefly about the number 23
      or that message..??
      I really need your help.

  4. Sam says

    The plane Cor Pan took a photo of, is not the one that went down, suggesting he was not on MH17, or that he posted an old photo. You can clearly see ‘RC’ written above the front landing gear. The plane that went down was ‘RD’.

  5. PatriotRebel says

    I would like to see the flight schedule of MH-17 for the days prior to the crash. I still suspect this is actually MH-370.

    • Illuminati go fuck yourself today says

      YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKER go fuck yourself with you illuminati shit. Tell your members to fuck their conspiracy theories and you should go fuck a goat and see what your gay members and “aliens” say to that.

  6. peter says

    There are poping out strange facts that crashed plane could be preped one that actually gone missing. First reports from ukrainian ppl that ware there just after crash and some dutch doctor states thta bodies ware in first stare of deci.position and ware dead for at least days.
    this may be false flag to prepare ppl of europe to war with russia. Ww3 anybody?

  7. says

    God.. some of you are so brainwashed.
    Hello, Illuminati isn’t real, They’ve disbanded.
    I don’t get why people are bringing all these symbols out of proportion
    I mean most of you are probably fat nerds, Who point out symbols for a living, Which is kind of sad.
    Oh and the illuminati thing, If it was real, How come were not dead? Did they not mention that if you mention Illuminati you will die? Hello, I’m not dead, Millions of others aren’t dead, And also, If it’s a secret society, Then why the fuck does everyone know about it?
    It’s just another gimic, Like end of the world

    • Manioso says

      Oh Your God! This person is in serious need of euthenasia. Imagine not being at all funny, being close to illiterate as well as being just a plain old moron.
      How do you manage to even get up everyday? you and your brothers replying with insults and rage should just skip back over to your fapping pages and The Daily Star or some other trash. What the hell are you doing here demonstrating your idiotic retardation?

  8. steven says

    wow,,there is a plane there,,not like 911 pentagon,,no plane parts at all,,is anyone wondering that?this is what a plane down on ground looks like,,look at 911 pentagon and you see no plane parts at all.are people really that ignorant?

    • dutch says

      I am missing a very important fact in all of the MH17 conspiracy’s i’ve read..
      *while MH370 was missing, it has been seen by a tourist in Tel Aviv airport.
      *quess who has headquarters at Amsterdam schiphol airport?and who is running the security?
      Yep, the mossad.
      Wich brings us back to the jezuits who rule the world.

      MH17 is MH370

  9. Baron says

    The loss of MH-17 has only two real possibilities. The first is that like MH-370 it had a potential to return a net worth of millions because it held four Engineers whom held the rights to patents. Their company had recently been bought and upon their deaths the patent rights reverted to back to the company, hence the new owners of the company that they were originally employed by.

    Blowing up airplanes, along with everyone in them isn’t anything new, what is new is how it can now be done.

    However enticing that line might be to follow, the alternative explanation is equally likely, or potentially more so. Prior to the loss of MH-17 a French Airliner was lost off the coast of Brazil. Recall that one? More recently a German Airliner was lost. With scant evidence and none of which can be corroborated to any real extent, the loss of that plane is now being blamed on a suicidal Co-Pilot whence the Commanding Officer, the Captain of the Plan, had gone back to the can, and the supposed evidence is little more than alleged pounding and shouting on the door to the Cockpit. This proves nothing but it does work to the advantage of the ruling powers that be to have the public believe suicidal terrorists are lurking at every possible venue.

    The reality is that we have now had several seriously questionable incidents with bullshit explanations, and these explanations are like Global Warming and the Carbon Tax Fraud by this collection of Organized Thieves calling themselves our leaders. That is, the explanations are there for their benefit and not ours.

    I would urge people to think about these explanations in the same context that in another epoch other so-called leaders blamed witchcraft for evils, either because they were themselves clueless, or because they themselves did the evil.

    We have now had a Global Campaign of spraying diluted Coal Waste in the atmosphere for 20 years. First disguised as the big lie that it was a change in fuel and then active denial and ridicule of doubters. After all, people in their 60’s know that jet aircraft have never left such trails, and certainly had never previously so polluted the sky so as to make it appear a checker board and then a dull sick milkshake.

    The point is, that as part of the Globalist Plan, which is actually a Globalist Conspiracy to distribute waste products across the globe, and to then use the excuse of carbon emissions as way to institute a global tax scheme upon every single living being, while actually themselves being entirely responsible for the greatest ecological disaster in history.

    So in doing this, they have significantly upset the natural cycle of the Planetary Air Currents, and which are now producing unexpected consequences.

    If you have noticed the movement of the military to robotic planes is a tacit recognition of the previous allegation. They are not flying aircraft with people in them unless they really need to do that, or don’t give a shit about those who are in them, which includes us people flying in commercial aircraft. Why is this you ask>?

    What you have going on is an induced sort of wind sheer but in such a way as to create an extreme case wherein, either the sheer is of such great speed, that is to say the aircraft moves in to a river of air flowing at supersonic speed in the same direction, and where-upon it instantly loses all aerodynamic lift and immediately begins falling from the sky. As any pilot knows, you cannot control an airplane without flow coming over the wings, and of course it must be flowing from the leading edge of the wing and not from behind or any quarter thereof.

    So, the active denial of the consequences of this crime cabals activities are now manifesting themselves in mysterious airplane loses.

    A secondary natural explanation also exists, and this has to do with the on-going problem of the breakdown of the planets electromagnetic field, resulting in extensive mini-poles, and where-ever there are mini-poles, and which can manifest basically without warning, then there is also a influx of space. It is entirely possible that these planes are encounters voids in the atmosphere.

    Now, going back to the recently lost German Airliner, I ask you; would a co-pilot bother trying to get out of his seat to unlock the cabin door while attempting to regain the complete and total loss of control over the flight surfaces? Not likely is it?

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